Dreams-Visions
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Tizoc
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We actually won this 4v5
http://matchhistory.eune.leagueofle...etails/EUN1/1363911632/205390904?tab=overview
http://matchhistory.eune.leagueofle...etails/EUN1/1363911632/205390904?tab=overview
SenorArdilla
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Ez is pretty versatile. He can top, bottom, etc.
I bet he can.
Dreams-Visions
Member
given the current meta and needs from top lane, i can't imagine it would have a very high win %. I mean you can make anything work (I destroyed shit as top Leona recently) here and there, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea in general.
I would expect to lose with a top Ez. I assuming winning would be the exception.
i know you're trolling me but like "keystones being pretty diverse" is not a "mission accomplished" kind of thing
in season 5 masteries were "pretty diverse" too, you know
there's barely a few champions that can use different keystones so it's just the same as before
gross
Yeah, a champ with that sort of versatility is pretty gross. I hear he can go mid, sandwiched between the two other lanes as well. He doesn't mind.
As far as the current discussion goes I've been saying for years now that runes and mysteries are fucking stupid, so replacing old stupid with new stupid isn't going to make the game smarter.
Still on the fence for Aurelian Sol as a jungler. I think he'll be more than capable, just don't know if it's something I want to play. And then there's having to clean up his abuse cases. No way in hell Riot allows screen-wide AoE stuns to live on.
Orochinagis
Member
full teams with Thunderlord was fun.
I've liked most of the changes they've made to s6. The adc changes were good. The way the minion waves work now are better. The masteries are more interesting and potent. The sight changes have felt pretty good. New champ select is amazing.
The only things I don't like are dragon not giving gold, how squishy tier 2 towers are and the death timers. I'd actually be OK with the death timers if the towers were sturdier. I have no problems with a team winning off a 30 min teamfight but only if they actually have some base penetration first.
The champ balance needs some work. Too many strong outliers pretty much ending games before they start if you aren't smart with your bans which is super hard when 3 different people do the bans.
oh i was thinking of something else entirely
yup, the only good thing would be to remove that shit from the game entirely
runes and masteries were a bulletpoint when league was nothing, but now they're unnecessary and worse
The big problem with systems like masteries is that they have too many customers and it's often hard to identify what groups changes are trying to serve.
Like, for power progression and low-level game knowledge, s6 masteries are probably an improvement. Individual new mastery points feel better and when I see somebody with no keystone or with a bad keystone for their role I know I have an advantage and can exploit it. But when you're already 30, power progression is nil, and when you're in plat or so, you stop running into people who aren't running the official best keystone for their role.
There is probably always a constituency, as well, for the perpetual optimizers to investigate every keystone after every small number tweak so that they can be the one to identify which keystone is best and arbitrage that knowledge for like two weeks before reddit spreads it around, and the keystone system probably helps that as well by making keystone choices very meaningful.
In terms of providing actual meaningful gameplay choices at a high level of play obviously the mastery changes haven't really succeeded, and have had some weird effects (like every jungler running Strength of Ages whether they're Nidalee or Nautilus). I think there are maybe a couple of champs that can actually make a choice between one or two masteries, but in general everybody is locked into specific masteries and so it's kind of pointless. That is not really any worse than the old system, in fairness. But if this is the primary thing you're worried about then the mastery changes have been mostly a waste of your time.
I am not sure whether it is really possible for them to make the mastery choices meaningful at a high level, for the same reason that WoW doesn't say "just choose whatever talent build you like and you'll do good DPS." The thing that is a little better is generally just better. The only way around that is to pump up the specialized power of the masteries even more, making them bolt-on minigames (Grasp is already a little like this), which is multiplicative in terms of design risk. (For example, look at how Grasp affected Gangplank's or Poppy's early laning ability out of proportion to others.) It also will probably feel worse to players who don't want to be bolting on a different minigame every time they play.
I generally think season 6 is fine, but it's also a meta that's pretty good for the champs I like to play (and new champ select doesn't screw me). I think the death timers are probably somewhat too long. Also I would just bite the bullet and give every player one ban, yolo. Being first pick in solo queue is kind of a bummer right now.
Like, for power progression and low-level game knowledge, s6 masteries are probably an improvement. Individual new mastery points feel better and when I see somebody with no keystone or with a bad keystone for their role I know I have an advantage and can exploit it. But when you're already 30, power progression is nil, and when you're in plat or so, you stop running into people who aren't running the official best keystone for their role.
There is probably always a constituency, as well, for the perpetual optimizers to investigate every keystone after every small number tweak so that they can be the one to identify which keystone is best and arbitrage that knowledge for like two weeks before reddit spreads it around, and the keystone system probably helps that as well by making keystone choices very meaningful.
In terms of providing actual meaningful gameplay choices at a high level of play obviously the mastery changes haven't really succeeded, and have had some weird effects (like every jungler running Strength of Ages whether they're Nidalee or Nautilus). I think there are maybe a couple of champs that can actually make a choice between one or two masteries, but in general everybody is locked into specific masteries and so it's kind of pointless. That is not really any worse than the old system, in fairness. But if this is the primary thing you're worried about then the mastery changes have been mostly a waste of your time.
I am not sure whether it is really possible for them to make the mastery choices meaningful at a high level, for the same reason that WoW doesn't say "just choose whatever talent build you like and you'll do good DPS." The thing that is a little better is generally just better. The only way around that is to pump up the specialized power of the masteries even more, making them bolt-on minigames (Grasp is already a little like this), which is multiplicative in terms of design risk. (For example, look at how Grasp affected Gangplank's or Poppy's early laning ability out of proportion to others.) It also will probably feel worse to players who don't want to be bolting on a different minigame every time they play.
I generally think season 6 is fine, but it's also a meta that's pretty good for the champs I like to play (and new champ select doesn't screw me). I think the death timers are probably somewhat too long. Also I would just bite the bullet and give every player one ban, yolo. Being first pick in solo queue is kind of a bummer right now.
Yep. And to think and to think all this came about because of CoD4. Still one my favorite games of all time online, but the popularization of unlocks and level progression has been a plague in gaming. Literally ruined some games for me. It speaks to how much I like LoL that I actually bothered to level to 30. Any game that puts that sort of barrier up to me these days immediately gets tossed away.
but keystones are worse than the old system. they matter way too much and they've been incredibly disruptive to the meta and balance overall. remember deathfire brand, or warlords tryndamere? how is changing a dated but harmless system into one that produces those issues not worse?
and the benefit is really questionable, i like the idea behind some of the masteries but like i've said before, i'd love for those effects to be on items rather than something you equip pre-game
i'll admit it's specially bad for mids because we literally have only one keystone for the entire class (unless you're dot but that's like 2 champions), but cmon, keystones were a huge downgrade for the game as a whole
also i've started using flat armor yellows in blind pick now because of all the zed i've been playing against. it helps.
and the benefit is really questionable, i like the idea behind some of the masteries but like i've said before, i'd love for those effects to be on items rather than something you equip pre-game
i'll admit it's specially bad for mids because we literally have only one keystone for the entire class (unless you're dot but that's like 2 champions), but cmon, keystones were a huge downgrade for the game as a whole
yup, it worked great in cod4, but here it's ridiculous
also i've started using flat armor yellows in blind pick now because of all the zed i've been playing against. it helps.
The concept of keystones is pretty cool, but it introduces the in game problem of having yet another thing that needs to be balanced properly among a slough of other things like items, champion stats, champion abilities, jungle buffs, etc.
I'd rather they focus on balancing the game that's already there instead of throwing another layer on top.
I'd rather they focus on balancing the game that's already there instead of throwing another layer on top.
I've been playing a decent amount of Karma lately. When I'm mid, I've been having a tough time deciding what to go with for my mastery. At first, I would go with thunderlords, but as games go on I'm really just finding myself poking the enemy team over and over with Q. I'd like to think deathfire would be good for that, but there is the reduced effectiveness with Q being aoe.
Any suggestions?
Any suggestions?
Deathfire probably works well with her W. I would take it.
Maybe, but that seems like the least problem their team had. He was their best performer in almost every category.
Stone Ocean
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It's gimmicky and predictable
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But the level 2 crits man.
agree'd; Just want to point out tho that CoD doesn't screw over new players with runes. I recall being a newbie and every so often some L30 would get dropped into our games and destroy ev1 pulling off feats I just couldnt do (and I even got Tier 1/Tier 2 runes)
I love CoD (I prestiged in Black Ops 3 even which means I reset my account and I'm releveling back to 50) but they make it fair and if you want to do ranked everything is unlocked. I feel that these f2p mobas just like to put the extreme level progression just so gamers get pissed and buy a booster pack so they can hit 30. Also CoD has those lovely Double XP weekends.
NihonTiger90
Member
Made fun of people getting upset over Trails not getting a PSP version methinks
but it's ok guys
you have me
ill always be here
but it's ok guys
you have me
ill always be here
Yeah that seems to be what happened.
It's amazing how people are so quick to blame teammates in this game. Just accept the fact you're a bad player and you need to get better at the game.
It's so different from fighting games which hits you in the face with the reality that there is nobody to blame but yourself. No teammates to blame!
It's so different from fighting games which hits you in the face with the reality that there is nobody to blame but yourself. No teammates to blame!
I think a key problem is that some games are truly unwinnable (or very nearly unwinnable) because of teammates, no matter HOW good you are. Also, some teammates do make very obvious mistakes. The most frustrating games to me are the ones where the path is simple and easy, but people don't want to do it.
Being able to accept the fact that some games will be lost, and focus only on one's own improvement in a vacuum, takes discipline and is tough.
Tbh the fighting games I've played have always had terrible lag.
I understand that some games are unwinnable simply because a lot of people that play this game are dumb as fuck. However, in many cases there are things you can do to influence the outcome of the game even if someone else is shitting the bed.
Of course. I'm saying that some games AREN'T winnable though, without some sort of miracle. And in that case, it's hard to finish the game and think without emotion, "My performance was acceptable," or "I could have improved this aspect of my performance that game," instead of "THIS YASUO IS GARBAGE".
Of course one should also react the same way in other games where it's closer.
90% My teammates feed. I really should be challenger but I'm stuck in bronze.
You also need to examine winnable games and judge whether or not it's worth putting in the effort to win or just take the L and move on
Your botlane gets double killed, comes back to lane and immediately starts to fight again and dies again. Jungler ganked you at the same time and you die. Other solo lane is doing ok.
You can look at that and know what you and your team needs to do to win, but you're likely dealing with people who have huge egos (and you with whatever ego you have), but it's not worth putting up the effort and work to maybe possibly win when you can save the time and move on.
Your botlane gets double killed, comes back to lane and immediately starts to fight again and dies again. Jungler ganked you at the same time and you die. Other solo lane is doing ok.
You can look at that and know what you and your team needs to do to win, but you're likely dealing with people who have huge egos (and you with whatever ego you have), but it's not worth putting up the effort and work to maybe possibly win when you can save the time and move on.
This 100%
I always run into people who play Ezreal top, even though its almost always been horrible. There's not much point when most bruisers can just jump straight on you 1v1. You arcane shift away, but you've usually already taken the damage. He's not that great 1v1 when you actually have to be in range to farm and can't poke with impunity.
Ghost is Bad
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fk it im jungle main now
boosted top + jg gg
SenorArdilla
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I have no idea how number changes can cause Kog'Maw's passive to leave behind invisible minions.
they're the ghosts of minions long dead
from a time many, many seasons ago
they haunt the rift seeking revenge
for the crime of being farmed
soon they will take over
and the only thing left
is spooky
Hey guys. Been lurking. Thought I'd join in the conversation.
I'm a high school teacher who's school is getting in on the esports thing. They were looking for a coach and since I play a lot of video games I thought I'd take a crack at it. So I find out the game we're gonna be playing is League of Legends. This is back in... I don't remember, maybe October? Thought I'd better start playing it if I was going to be coaching it, and have been playing since then.
I'm level 23 now, digging it. Making mistakes but getting better. Reading a lot of guides, tips, builds, forums, etc really helps, but nothing like playing the game.
Anyway. I'm still trying to figure out what role I like best. I'm worst at ADC, but that bothers me a lot, so I almost want to practice that more so I get better at it, but I don't know that I really want to play that role much, y'know?
I'm a high school teacher who's school is getting in on the esports thing. They were looking for a coach and since I play a lot of video games I thought I'd take a crack at it. So I find out the game we're gonna be playing is League of Legends. This is back in... I don't remember, maybe October? Thought I'd better start playing it if I was going to be coaching it, and have been playing since then.
I'm level 23 now, digging it. Making mistakes but getting better. Reading a lot of guides, tips, builds, forums, etc really helps, but nothing like playing the game.
Anyway. I'm still trying to figure out what role I like best. I'm worst at ADC, but that bothers me a lot, so I almost want to practice that more so I get better at it, but I don't know that I really want to play that role much, y'know?