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Welcome back from your sabbatical.
It would be ok if she the push distance is the same, but yeah I didn't see that nerf originally. That hurts jungle poppy quite a lot.
I'm not even sure what should be nerfed in Nautilus. The shield strength isn't that crazy considering the CD. Hook CD and damage are alright. His base stats are
kinda bad. E could be trimmed more. I suppose reducing the duration of his passive root would be good, but I'm not sure that affects top Naut all that much. Nerfing the passive damage would hurt top Naut but do nothing to support Naut.
My preference would be to change his ult slightly so that landing it takes a bit of skill. Maybe Naut needs to detonate it manually with a slight delay. Or change it wholesale into a skillshot of sorts and give players a chance to get out of it.
Surprised Jhin's base damages aren't even lower, honestly. I feel like his kit has damage that isn't that hard to work for. He's a hyperscaling lane bully, and that's kind of weird. I don't want to see him get gutted like Jinx, though.
I'd love to see his W changed to where it does basically no damage at all unless you get the root, or something like that.
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No but can you get me Pax twisted fates? Thanks in advance.
This does not help me understand any better. I get that there are reduced rates but when you go like 20 wins without a fragment it feels like the system might as well not even be there. You 70% winrate your last 20 games and smash Wingsofdeathx and it's just like...why am I not getting the same rewards as other people?
How many fragments have you gotten? I've got a total of 5 so far.
7 or 8 total and I feel like I have been playing a lot.
I'm just trying to open the boxes they gave me...
lol that ezreal was begging for it too. Janna did good job protecting him. He looked so afk no wonder they went for him
Close but I think that's Soraka for sure
Righttt.. Poppy wall stuns required no screw up from the target, they'd magnetize to the nearest wall more or less. Only thing less fair was when Vayne condemn had 650 range.
Is something wrong with selecting skins? I keep being given Musketeer Twisted Fate even though I spam click High Noon. Seriously I clicked it so much in pre game select to make sure it went through. Kept checking that it was still selected up until the last second and it still gave me Musketeer. What?
Black-Wind
Member
WTF at these Poppy nerfs???
So sad.
And this is the patch with such cool skins
So sad.
And this is the patch with such cool skins
PhillipCostigan
Member
High Noon is disabled rn.
WTF at these Poppy nerfs???
So sad.
And this is the patch with such cool skins
They are well deserved.
aww man. I just bought it :/ Any idea when it will be re-enabled?
PhillipCostigan
Member
not sure. it's bugged, probably due to changes made to his cards etc. this patch for readability. I'll follow up when I'm in the office tomorrow.
Wolf Akela
Member
What bug does it have?
funny enough, I was playing ARAM twisted fate last night, and a guy did the skin unlock thing so I got High Noon TF.
His Q cards looked reeeeeeeeaaaaalllyyy small to me, like tiny tiny tiny tiny. Small enough to make them really hard to see, but I don't play TF much so I dunno.
His Q cards looked reeeeeeeeaaaaalllyyy small to me, like tiny tiny tiny tiny. Small enough to make them really hard to see, but I don't play TF much so I dunno.
danke
Black-Wind
Member
I don't think so.
Poppy IMO is one of those non-oppressive champs that are useful regardless of how well they did in lane. I feel that that's what they want AS to be to, a champ that can remain useful to the team if behind but not be oppressive if fed. It's refreshing having champs like that. Champs that stand on the other side, balancing out the "they're shit early game but if the game last for 40 mins they're OP!/ Gotta get fed early if you wanna do anything late game" champs.
Her whole kit revolves around capitalizing on the enemy making poor choices. These nerfs just seem so unwarranted to me, hope they don't go through with it.
Would taking the bonus damage from Iceborn Gauntlet kill the item? Maybe make the slow stronger or the field bigger. I feel the mini burst tanks get it's a bit lame.
Would kill lue Ez tho and I like playing that thing. This is probably a terrible idea like most I get about this game.
Would kill lue Ez tho and I like playing that thing. This is probably a terrible idea like most I get about this game.
Black-Wind
Member
Have you laned against poppy? She is pretty strongWTF at these Poppy nerfs???
So sad.
And this is the patch with such cool skins
Yeah the key and chest mechanic opens a latency between the two that creates revenue
Its a little crap that people who play a lot might feel punished
I mean I get that they don't want casual players to feel disadvantaged and this is probably the best solution (unless fragment drop rate falls to zero at some point. That should never happen in a fair system)
Peanut Butter
Member
I just encountered the strangest kind of rage after my most recent game.
The entire game, my team was going on a rampage, but the enemy ADC kept going postal in all chat over the fact that our ADC (my friend who hasn't played in 3-4 months) wasted his ban on Cait since he ended up taking Sivir. The other ADC kept on stressing that Sivir counters Cait, we could have banned a more important champion, and that our strategy would have been better.....even though the score was like 17-3 in our favor. Dude kept calling us trash, and it was so weird.
The guy even started to say stuff like "Anyone can play Azir" just because our Azir was breaking their ankles while shredding them in the process.
The entire game, my team was going on a rampage, but the enemy ADC kept going postal in all chat over the fact that our ADC (my friend who hasn't played in 3-4 months) wasted his ban on Cait since he ended up taking Sivir. The other ADC kept on stressing that Sivir counters Cait, we could have banned a more important champion, and that our strategy would have been better.....even though the score was like 17-3 in our favor. Dude kept calling us trash, and it was so weird.
The guy even started to say stuff like "Anyone can play Azir" just because our Azir was breaking their ankles while shredding them in the process.
Black-Wind
Member
Yes, I have. Was one of my first games with Garen who happens to be a good counter to her. But I didn't know this cause I beat the bricks off of a Garen before as Poppy (and as Diana top ... I use to think Garen was weak shit because of how easy it is to lane against him with her). Like with any match up you're in a better spot if you think about what their champ does and what they want to do to you.
As I said, her kit revolves around capitalizing on the enemies mistake if you want to put out full dmg on her skills. My hardest lanes are against people who actually think about their position in relation to me (cause without the wall slam a good bit of her power is cut)
Not saying she's not strong (I think she's a good, well designed champ and a solid tank) ... but that doesn't matter. There are always gonna be strong champs and weak champs. The question is, is she "too strong"? I don't think so.
EDIT- Also laned against her as Diana. I remember it cause I steam rolled over her and she went afk for a good bit. Someone on the enemy team shit talked my rageblade/ nt build. Was a fun win.
powerdrain
Member
Poppy nerfs? Noooo. She's my go-to Jungler if I have to jungle, but also fun to support with on occasion.
I just got my first promotion, from Silver V to IV. Need to get back to Gold.
I just got my first promotion, from Silver V to IV. Need to get back to Gold.
Yup
I'm honestly shocked her win rate is as low as it is because playing against her it just feels like she does everything
Ghost is Bad
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poppy can solo kill a fed zed with a single armor item
think about that
think about that
I'm glad Poppy is getting nerfed, but Riot has to remember something -- tanks don't get to do dmg, only bruisers do.
If Riven/Darius/Illaoi are destroying a team with their damage, that's perfectly okay with me. If Poppy/Naut/Udyr (runic then full tank) I'm gonna be having problems.
Darius and Illaoi have to work to actually get in because of their lack of mobility, Riven is pretty squishy and easy to burst down. They actually have to work to get in the enemy backline.
If Riven/Darius/Illaoi are destroying a team with their damage, that's perfectly okay with me. If Poppy/Naut/Udyr (runic then full tank) I'm gonna be having problems.
Darius and Illaoi have to work to actually get in because of their lack of mobility, Riven is pretty squishy and easy to burst down. They actually have to work to get in the enemy backline.
No, it's the other way around. CC should always be gated by cooldowns so tanks need to have higher burst than sustained damage. If a tank uses all their damage on ADC, the ADC should only be close to dead, not dead, and the tank needs to wait a decent cooldown to finish them off.
Someone like Maokai is a good example of what a tank should be like. Maokai takes a while to kill someone, but you can't just ignore him.
Someone like Maokai is a good example of what a tank should be like. Maokai takes a while to kill someone, but you can't just ignore him.
I guess the really problematic tanks of late have had both. Nautilus, malphite, and poppy all have good upfront burst as well as good sustained damage, especially since sunfire is pretty good now.
I basically mean what you said but I don't think sustained damage is the word I was looking for