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- Thread starter zkylon
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It's the last thing people will see before I destroy them with support Kennen.
Duo with me and I'll fix you right up! I'm the master of getting my partners promoted and myself immediately demoted right after.
the splashes look great, lmao at the ekko stuff and glad to read about the changes to the skt skins
if faker's skin has the roll or some broccoli reference, i might just buy ryze for it
and i'll probably buy the easyhoon azir skin since easyhoon is awesome too (also i don't like much the current azir skins)
love it when rito gives us what we want
yeah basically it's dumb that veigar's dmg scales with enemy ap when nothing about his kit or identity says "anti-mage" and it just warps his numbers in unnecessary ways
also he's oneshotting adcs just as easily so it's basically just more numbers which makes no sense
better to remove that altogether and put that power budget somewhere else (like giving him a real passive)
if faker's skin has the roll or some broccoli reference, i might just buy ryze for it
and i'll probably buy the easyhoon azir skin since easyhoon is awesome too (also i don't like much the current azir skins)
love it when rito gives us what we want
yeah basically it's dumb that veigar's dmg scales with enemy ap when nothing about his kit or identity says "anti-mage" and it just warps his numbers in unnecessary ways
also he's oneshotting adcs just as easily so it's basically just more numbers which makes no sense
better to remove that altogether and put that power budget somewhere else (like giving him a real passive)
Yeah not the right word choice not really babying but like maybe if it was something else they woulda just ignored it. Maybe bc this directly relates to income since it's something they need people to buy
He's gone through about as many pbe changes in 3 days as any champ rework or release I can remember
haha actually just lost. We got rekted by a Gangplank. but early game. which is rare
idk if i'd make this about "income"
riot just made something that was below expectations and got a ton of feedback of like how do you even forget about easyhoon you monsters and so it's in their best interests for players to be happy so they change it
it's a very riot thing to do so i'm glad they're doing it
riot just made something that was below expectations and got a ton of feedback of like how do you even forget about easyhoon you monsters and so it's in their best interests for players to be happy so they change it
it's a very riot thing to do so i'm glad they're doing it
SenorArdilla
Member
Hextech Rocket Belt Starburst looks broken. Then again, so is everything else on PBE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2MAjVyXC8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2MAjVyXC8A
Black-Wind
Member
What?
Garen has great waveclear. 0_o
If the Veigar is even a lil smart they wont be pushing to the tower when they realize they can't do any damage. The legit only thing that kept him alive in the early game was him hugging the tower.
You also don't need an "Assassin or AP" champ to sit mid. Hell, the first time I did it was because the enemy counter picked Kayle top and our Karthus mid asked if I wanted to swap before the match started. (there are some AP champs that can go top as I'm sure you know)
And in this match their Shaco camped me HARD. But the wonderful thing about Garen Mid that's different from Garen top is that he's harder to gank mid. Short lane = no a far run to safety.
Has anyone had ANY weird audio problems since the latest League patches? The last two days my computer has acted crazy haunted. I'd assume a virus, but no sort of scan I've done turns up any evidence.
One of the things that happens is that audio stops working (and I noticed audiodg.exe using like a gig of RAM today). At the moment it's randomly working again. One of the only things I noticed both days is that I had the League client running before the problem happened.
Also, I saw the random League client crash thing happen at least once.
One of the things that happens is that audio stops working (and I noticed audiodg.exe using like a gig of RAM today). At the moment it's randomly working again. One of the only things I noticed both days is that I had the League client running before the problem happened.
Also, I saw the random League client crash thing happen at least once.
AzureSkies
Member
Joined a ranked lobby where I got support instead guy who was streaming (he advertised his stream), they proceeded to literally try and talk as much shit about me as possible on the stream.
I asked them why they were doing that while advertising their stream and they wouldn't give me an answer so I dodged. After dodging they proceeded to talk shit about me, call me a bitch and argued about my gender for a bit (they were convinced that I had to be a girl by my attitude lmao).
good times.
I asked them why they were doing that while advertising their stream and they wouldn't give me an answer so I dodged. After dodging they proceeded to talk shit about me, call me a bitch and argued about my gender for a bit (they were convinced that I had to be a girl by my attitude lmao).
good times.
zztop is nice in theory and it took people a long time to figure it out so can't really blame rito for it, but the function of the item is so damn rotten
haven't been playing much but i imagine midlane you can just drop it behind your turret and you've now chained the enemy mid to waveclear duty forever
the item definitely needs a shorter range, and maybe something like an azir passive mechanic that gets weaker when its user is not around or something
it generally needs a bigger commitment on the zztop user, the payoff can remain great but you should be forced to defend it, not just drop and forget
haven't been playing much but i imagine midlane you can just drop it behind your turret and you've now chained the enemy mid to waveclear duty forever
the item definitely needs a shorter range, and maybe something like an azir passive mechanic that gets weaker when its user is not around or something
it generally needs a bigger commitment on the zztop user, the payoff can remain great but you should be forced to defend it, not just drop and forget
my favourite thing in the game is being sivir and the ONLY champ with ANY ad damage whatsoever and having several kills stolen from me early in the game for no reason other than they could
gragas smite kill when I'm in the middle of an auto... ok
that team tilted the fuck outta me
gragas smite kill when I'm in the middle of an auto... ok
that team tilted the fuck outta me
SenorArdilla
Member
Is Zz'Rot so small that it can't be right-clicked behind a turret?
It's presumably out of range, so the turret will kill you. The portal champ just needs to keep the wave off the turret.
The enemy champ can stop the portal from damaging the tower, but that means they're stuck killing an endless wave of suiciding minions.
voidlings giving gold on kill just creates murkey gameplay because it makes you question if you should kill the portal or just farm the voidlings
the item's counterplay should be simple, kill the portal, that's it
if you shorten the range you force people to place the portal more aggressively which means you give the enemy team better opportunities to kill it while you fight to defend it
yeah the idea is cool but the current implementation doesn't feel fun at all
Peanut Butter
Member
Justice.
SuperBowser
Member
honestly, Zzrot portal should be nerfed and made viable for supports/jungles only. It's a cool concept, but in practice becomes an incredibly obnoxious item for top lane champions. Perma pushed lanes, impossible to remove the source of pushing, minions that give nothing when you kill them, movement speed bonus and reasonable defense stats.
It's too much for a top laner to have and creates situations that punish player interactions instead of promoting them.
It's too much for a top laner to have and creates situations that punish player interactions instead of promoting them.
the thing about banner is that the active is almost exclusively used in a team scenario
you use it to strengthen your siege, or sometimes to set up a slow push on a side wave while you group with your team but it's never this weird effortless splitpushing thing
unless the item had pretty drastic changes and lasted a lot less i can't imagine a world in which the item makes sense for a support
i can see it on a jungler like udyr tho, because it aligns pretty well with how the champion is played
you use it to strengthen your siege, or sometimes to set up a slow push on a side wave while you group with your team but it's never this weird effortless splitpushing thing
unless the item had pretty drastic changes and lasted a lot less i can't imagine a world in which the item makes sense for a support
i can see it on a jungler like udyr tho, because it aligns pretty well with how the champion is played
Sure, they are quite different. You can use zzrot to set up a slow push as well though, or to defend against super minions for a short time. You can definitely get towers through the use of a banner cannon minion as a split pusher too.
The thing that makes it less effective for supports is that defensive stats carry over from the user, which is fine, I think. If everyone starts buying it then there's probably an issue. If a support or jungler occasionally buys it for more side lane control it's fine I think.
SuperBowser
Member
Maybe I'm just bitter because I don't play traditional tanks in top lane. I used to play a lot of Teemo but champions like him can't exist in this meta. Zzrot plain destroys player interactions in the lane. It's basically impossible to stop the splitpushing if the teams are even in gold; try and get the portal - overextend and die, try and duel the top laner - they are either stupid or you die, try and splitpush - you can't. It's not a healthy top lane item.
On the other hand, if it was markedly cheaper with reduced tank stats and reduced length voidling distance , it would be reasonable. You shouldn't be super tanky while simultaneously investing in a strong split push item.
On the other hand, if it was markedly cheaper with reduced tank stats and reduced length voidling distance , it would be reasonable. You shouldn't be super tanky while simultaneously investing in a strong split push item.
grats!!!
yeah Idk when I'll return to LoL. Dark souls 3 on its way. I gotta scramble and beat DS2
killatopak
Gold Member
Haven't played ranked in nearly a month. A warning already showes up when I logged in but I'm too busy playing tales of abyss.
Maybe zz'rot could make a large, really slow lumbering monster on a longer timer that could still push the wave but gave lots of time to react. Or maybe zz'rot can only be cast on turrets, still standing or destroyed, and it creates a gross tentacle that is insanely good at killing enemy minions at tower, effectively halting the progress of the minion wave for a period of time.
What I'm getting at is the concept of an item that gives the buyer the freedom to hold their lane while they go elsewhere is good, the current implementation is what sucks. Killing a big monster or a huge tentacle would be much more satisfying than having to click on those little voidlings.
Also, Riot should take a different approach to lots of these "utility" items.
Step 1.) Create the item and give it really strong base stats
Step 2.) Let the item percolate for a few patches, continue improving base stats until it's a must buy.
Step 3.) Once the item is bought by everyone and they understand how best to use it, nerf the base stats hard and reinforce the utility of the item.
That last step is missing. They're nerfing the base stats hard, but leave the utility the same (i.e. Righteous Glory). This game is stat driven. For players to buy into an inefficient item the utility has to be out of this world.
What I'm getting at is the concept of an item that gives the buyer the freedom to hold their lane while they go elsewhere is good, the current implementation is what sucks. Killing a big monster or a huge tentacle would be much more satisfying than having to click on those little voidlings.
Also, Riot should take a different approach to lots of these "utility" items.
Step 1.) Create the item and give it really strong base stats
Step 2.) Let the item percolate for a few patches, continue improving base stats until it's a must buy.
Step 3.) Once the item is bought by everyone and they understand how best to use it, nerf the base stats hard and reinforce the utility of the item.
That last step is missing. They're nerfing the base stats hard, but leave the utility the same (i.e. Righteous Glory). This game is stat driven. For players to buy into an inefficient item the utility has to be out of this world.
Stone Ocean
Member
Too bad the skin still looks like shit
Karma deserves a good skin so bad
Karma deserves a good skin so bad
Tizoc
Member
OK so warmog was a bad idea
http://matchhistory.eune.leagueofle...etails/EUN1/1388140538/205390904?tab=overview
http://matchhistory.eune.leagueofle...etails/EUN1/1388140538/205390904?tab=overview
what is 'urf'? I don't understand this post at all can someone translate this for me? Lol I'm so serious
Oh wow. What a good way to build up your stream by insulting your future viewers and arguing bout their gender. LOL