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They actually probably did this for Jhin.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I don't get the jhin thing
you telling me they nerfed pink wards to appease and buff jhin indirectly
jhin must be stopped
you telling me they nerfed pink wards to appease and buff jhin indirectly
jhin must be stopped
EzekelRAGE
Member
o morellos gives 100 ap now? Thats nice as hell.
eww, gives mana and has grail passive now. Ehh, still buildin it.
eww, gives mana and has grail passive now. Ehh, still buildin it.
I don't get it. Why only three elements. I see they say giving a degree of predictability, but I don't know... I don't understand that reasoning?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Predictability in that you know how many dragons are left.
This is great. Random buffs each game will change the pace.
That's what I said
I made it beautiful for the new page.
contologics
Banned
Yo, I rarely rage but Tank Fizz.. Tank Fizz is something I can't wrap my head around. Why is an assassin allowed to tank 6+ Tower shots while being withered under tower, while being Siphoning Striked in the face with 250+ stacks against a Nasus with oodles of health, armor and mr. Why is this allowed, why is Icebourne Gauntlet then slap a sunfire cape on any assassin allowed to run around doing this type of shit.
I don't know if this is a lack of experience because no .. matter, no matter what you do, this champion has enough damage to kill you and did not build even 1 damage item. I just don't get it. Why is he Fotm?? Why for the past week every time a fizz slipped through bans, he ends up goes 19/0/1 whether he is on my team or the other team with just a Icebourne gauntlet and a Sunfire Cape. Why, just why riot. Why would you make a champion that removes himself from the game?
I had no major problem with Fizz but if you're going to one shot me or poke me in the eye to death with your fish stick, the least you can do is be squishy while doing so and not fucking tank 4 champions under a tower, and taking out 3 with half health to spare because that's okay, it's Fizz. I can deal with Tank Ekko but Tank Fizz? Some whole other type of bullshit.
Edit: This is a honest cry for help, help me to know what to do because at this point being top all the time, seeing Fizz walk into my lane makes me want to kill myself. I almost clicked uninstall for a while yesterday, I signed back on, met another one .. and, well nvm that. You get the point.
I don't know if this is a lack of experience because no .. matter, no matter what you do, this champion has enough damage to kill you and did not build even 1 damage item. I just don't get it. Why is he Fotm?? Why for the past week every time a fizz slipped through bans, he ends up goes 19/0/1 whether he is on my team or the other team with just a Icebourne gauntlet and a Sunfire Cape. Why, just why riot. Why would you make a champion that removes himself from the game?
I had no major problem with Fizz but if you're going to one shot me or poke me in the eye to death with your fish stick, the least you can do is be squishy while doing so and not fucking tank 4 champions under a tower, and taking out 3 with half health to spare because that's okay, it's Fizz. I can deal with Tank Ekko but Tank Fizz? Some whole other type of bullshit.
Edit: This is a honest cry for help, help me to know what to do because at this point being top all the time, seeing Fizz walk into my lane makes me want to kill myself. I almost clicked uninstall for a while yesterday, I signed back on, met another one .. and, well nvm that. You get the point.
Hm, new Guinsoo's has me intrigued as an Irelia main.
Every other attack with her W up (at max rank) she'll deal 150 true damage. Say she has 1.36 attack speed (I'm estimating this at lv.9 with 14% atkspd runes, and Guinsoo's), so that's 8 attacks (rounding down), normally 600 true damage, but here instead it's 75x4, and 150x4, so that's actually 900 true damage over the seven seconds (300 more!)
Alternatively starting with 29% atkspd runes + Guinsoo's will net 1.54 atk spd at lv.9 (with max stacks), which will give 9 attacks, making it 975 true damage (and this isn't even adding in using one Q for an additional hit)
... Pretty sure my math is correct. This also of course implies never missing an auto.
Of course I could be totally wrong, maybe only her heal is on-hit, but I thought the TD was too (since I'm confident I see it apply with her Q)
Every other attack with her W up (at max rank) she'll deal 150 true damage. Say she has 1.36 attack speed (I'm estimating this at lv.9 with 14% atkspd runes, and Guinsoo's), so that's 8 attacks (rounding down), normally 600 true damage, but here instead it's 75x4, and 150x4, so that's actually 900 true damage over the seven seconds (300 more!)
Alternatively starting with 29% atkspd runes + Guinsoo's will net 1.54 atk spd at lv.9 (with max stacks), which will give 9 attacks, making it 975 true damage (and this isn't even adding in using one Q for an additional hit)
... Pretty sure my math is correct. This also of course implies never missing an auto.
Of course I could be totally wrong, maybe only her heal is on-hit, but I thought the TD was too (since I'm confident I see it apply with her Q)
oh shit.
Stone Ocean
Member
Rageblade works on ranged as well, the stacking change is that melee also needs to stack 6 times as opposed to getting 2 stacks per attack like before.
Are you sure? I mean why would they bother listing that in the tooltip at all then? I mean I know as you said it used to be 2 stacks per (meaning only 4 attacks), but if both melee and ranged are single stacks, doesn't seem necessary to point out melee being single stacks now in the tooltip.
PBE account name is Calvero if any wants to add me
Stone Ocean
Member
Damn it moobeat post the Syndra changes already the suspense is killing me
Tooltip is wrong
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.co...-questions-about-the-new-guinsoo?comment=0001
Ah good to know!
what the hell
Orochinagis
Member
And my last friend quits the game, guess I will be stuck in bronze II =(
BreezyLimbo
Banned
The only part being the rest of the community has to get used to it
Coming from HotS brawling constantly, its something you have to pick up and learn
The obvious concern is some junglers are overwhelmingly stronger counter junglers than others so them having even more of an upper hand kinda sucks. I guess it allows them to further push that advantage and differentiate junglers like Lee and Elise but there needs to be a tradeoff. It needs to be worth it for me to take Sejuani knowing full well that I'm risking being down a couple of levels since I'm being forced off of every buff
Would it be too broken to have wolf spirit smite do something like put up temporary (say 50 second or less) walls at certain jungle entrance points that can be passed via mobility abilities like the new ish base walls? It would make counter junglers think twice when they have team mates who can't easily traverse in to back them up on their invade.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Malzahar is now officially Enigma.
Wolf Akela
Member
Red buff applies tick on hit now?
Thanks for Yi compensation buff Rito.
Blue Buff being a mini Deathcap is wow.
And what the hell bringing back Madred to replace Devourer. What's to stop Kog from buying it anyway since it doesn't seem to require sating?
Thanks for Yi compensation buff Rito.
Blue Buff being a mini Deathcap is wow.
And what the hell bringing back Madred to replace Devourer. What's to stop Kog from buying it anyway since it doesn't seem to require sating?
I mean, its not like that info wasn't in the game already. It's like the change to add timers in the first place. Riot wants to give more heads up info at our fingertips to be able to make strategic decisions. And encourage fighting. League is already very farm heavy. A little more scuffling isn't going to hurt. Counter jungling is weak right now anyways. Spice it up. I'm all for it.
If you are sejuani you offer a lot more in teamfights so your team needs to back you up. And you better be taking trackers and warding to protect against Lee and elise. Nothing really changes. Counter junglers are going to want to counter. We just get more easily accessible info for decision-making.
A full first jungle clear now gives you level 5
Junglers who can do a full first clear easily will be level 5 at around 3:15ish
Idk i feel like you're kinda underestimating how easy this makes counterjungling. Knowing exactly when a buff is going to spawn allows you to drop a ward there 30 seconds in advance and gives you a huge leg up in counterjungling in return for doing absolutely nothing. As someone like sejuani or zac there's nothing you can do in a straight 1v1 against someone like kindred besides tuck your tail and run. Those junglers are already not in a very good spot since cinderhulk is so bad. It sounds really fun and I'm all for more duels in the jungle but it's gonna push the junglers that wanna build cinderhulk even further out of the meta
Junglers who can do a full first clear easily will be level 5 at around 3:15ish
Idk i feel like you're kinda underestimating how easy this makes counterjungling. Knowing exactly when a buff is going to spawn allows you to drop a ward there 30 seconds in advance and gives you a huge leg up in counterjungling in return for doing absolutely nothing. As someone like sejuani or zac there's nothing you can do in a straight 1v1 against someone like kindred besides tuck your tail and run. Those junglers are already not in a very good spot since cinderhulk is so bad. It sounds really fun and I'm all for more duels in the jungle but it's gonna push the junglers that wanna build cinderhulk even further out of the meta
Jesus just played against a Swain who rushed Hextech GLP-800. What the fuck. Just ults you and his AoE thingy hits you and he can turret dive no problem. Just gets all the Health back because of the spells and gets the mana back because of the dmg taken, which means longer ult.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Well they need to revert the xp changes. I want crazy things in the game, but not this.
Stone Ocean
Member
Why do you do this Riot
Stone Ocean
Member
That's it for the Syndra changes? What a fucking letdown, it has the exact same fucking issues as her passive besides the new W bonus, fuck off.
They made Veigar's ult an execute. I dunno about the ratios or other number changes but as far as the base damage is concerned his ult will deal as much damage as an old rank 2 ult at 33% HP, so removing the enemy AP ratio doesn't change much but now he's better at killing everyone else.
edit: ok thought about it more and it's a lot more about stacking balls for zone control and big stuns
could be cool, want more info
i don't see how making his ult an execute is bad, it's already how it works but it had that weird element of not giving you the ap for finishing them off with q. now it's very clear that you want to use ult at the end of ur rotation thanks to the new passive and the dmg scaling with % missing hp
i mean, it's not like he had trouble oneshotting adcs before. you know, before maw got stupid and everything
there's 7 balls max and you can kill any mawless carry with only 5 so that's not the point
the point is that now you're gonna have the fight filled with balls that you can use for stuns since they last a bit more and you can honestly keep a lot of them live by resetting them with w
it's cool but the effects on e and r are still pretty lame
edit: yeah this is basically some lategame power when you rank w a couple times at max cdr and you can indifinitely keep balls alive for multi-man stuns. you're still really limited by e cooldown but i guess it's a bit of a buff for that
without number changes i think i'd rather keep the dmg on q tho
