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League of Legends |OT11| going
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Mostmanlyman
Member
OHHHH THANK JESUS
but what if if it's one guy who has like 3 deaths at 5 mins who rage quits. No remake then? Only if no kills have occurred?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
maybe this update will also include the early surrender option where everyone but the dced player 5 minutes in gets a loss forgiven
Ghost is Bad
Banned
bruh
D
Deleted member 77995
Unconfirmed Member
Why would a team that would surely win 5v4 want to do an early surrender?
Stone Ocean
Member
BreezyLimbo
Banned
That's actually sweet art
Mostmanlyman
Member
Yeah it is really sick.
That's exactly my point
Oh I guess the other team gets the win, weird wording with the /remake bit
LostMyNarbles
Member
The sadness when you long on and URF mode is gone. ;_;
BreezyLimbo
Banned
So far my winrate with Nasus in Gold is 100%.
Except you know, those noot games.
Except you know, those noot games.
the gothic splash arts are great, i love the idea and they just look awesome, gj rito. the other splashes are good too, i guess it's time to go on ebay, noot
viktor changes sound good, the 20 dmg nerf is pretty sizeable but depends on the effect that travel speed thing has
i should probably get on pbe and try him out
i like
viktor changes sound good, the 20 dmg nerf is pretty sizeable but depends on the effect that travel speed thing has
i should probably get on pbe and try him out
A pouting Poppy for your troubles.
i like
no way?!? That's pretty awesome
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
getting bad ping and yet i queue
Troubled Bat
Member
Exactly how I felt. Lol
I needed to get a lot more champions though, that are actually useful.
This lol.
NCR Redslayer
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We already know everything and so do the lurkers.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
no smite new meta
BreezyLimbo
Banned
He jungled without smite
he was a trooper
luckily thornmail won fights
they would aim me and by the time I died they were at a third health
Black-Wind
Member
The one good thing about Hextech shard things is that I feel like it encourages you to try out different champs because you got something cool from them.
I just got Project Yi and I was like "Cool skin ... too bad I have no interest in playing JG champs". Then I thought about it and was like "Oh, he's only like 400IP and I have a ton of dust ... might as well see if I can play him top".
Gonna try him top TMR ... seems like that's not unheard of but I've always hated liking JG champs because they seem to only be good in the JG most of the time. (Still haven't given up on Lane Vi. I feel like now I recognize that Talon is a POS to deal with on champs I don't know well enough)
I keep hearing that TM is bad/ useless on anyone other than Rammus.
Why do people say this? I've only built it like twice though, I know it's best used against AA champ comps but I don't know when it's better than any other armor item of similar stats.
I just got Project Yi and I was like "Cool skin ... too bad I have no interest in playing JG champs". Then I thought about it and was like "Oh, he's only like 400IP and I have a ton of dust ... might as well see if I can play him top".
Gonna try him top TMR ... seems like that's not unheard of but I've always hated liking JG champs because they seem to only be good in the JG most of the time. (Still haven't given up on Lane Vi. I feel like now I recognize that Talon is a POS to deal with on champs I don't know well enough)
I keep hearing that TM is bad/ useless on anyone other than Rammus.
Why do people say this? I've only built it like twice though, I know it's best used against AA champ comps but I don't know when it's better than any other armor item of similar stats.
it's not bad it's just very situational
Thornmail is an armor item that builds off of existing armor and only has armor.
As with ADCs needing to build AD and crit and attack speed because they are multiplicative, tanks want to build both health and armor/MR (and potentially CDR if it gives them more tank ability uses), so an item that gives only armor is kind of limited. Couple that with the fact that it wants you to build a bunch more armor and it's kind of restricted to the specific matches where every dangerous person on the other team is AD.
Rammus gets to cheat on this because he gets bonus AD and reflection damage from building armor, and he has a taunt to force enemies to auto him. (The two other champions with taunts both have design issues that make Thornmail uninteresting for them -- Shen wants to stack health and Galio has MR scaling and not enough taunt uptime.)
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Neko
Neko
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Say I made you proud
Neko
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Say I made you proud
For a while you had 4+ tanks up there, including Rammus. Nida and Kindred are higher priority than the likes of Fizz; they weren't when Poppy and Naut where in their prime.
It's a clear shift, pal.
edit: wait, I thought I said "starting to disappear". Nevertheless, there's less now and they take lower ranks.
It's a clear shift, pal.
edit: wait, I thought I said "starting to disappear". Nevertheless, there's less now and they take lower ranks.
The main bans this patch are probably:
Ekko
Kindred
Soraka
Taric
Maokai
Fizz
3 of those bans aren't tanks and haven't changed since last patch. If I'm in the wrong here lemme know where. Also the Rammus situation was probably more because Quinn and Graves were strong, not that Rammus was too powerful.
Ekko
Kindred
Soraka
Taric
Maokai
Fizz
3 of those bans aren't tanks and haven't changed since last patch. If I'm in the wrong here lemme know where. Also the Rammus situation was probably more because Quinn and Graves were strong, not that Rammus was too powerful.
What's your definition of main ban here, actual stats of actual bans or a more anecdotal one?
If we're looking at actual stats (from Leagueofgraphs, Diamond+), these are the top 6:
Ekko,
Kindred,
Zed,
Taric,
Nidalee,
Soraka.
Ekko is the only one that fits the good old tanky top meta.
Next 6 are:
Graves,
Yi,
Malphite,
Maokai,
Alistar,
Azir.
There's a grand total of 3 champions in the top 12 actual bans that fit the tanky top meta.
If we're talking anecdotal stuff, I never see Fizz banned. Maokai is occasionally banned, but Nidalee is much higher. Zed is still a priority ban. Typically there's never more than two tanks banned, and it's not uncommon to see only one banned.
We've already looked at bestbans stats for NA so we can skip those. Best ban stats for EUW are interesting though:
Kindred,
Soraka,
Zed,
Taric,
Nidalee,
Janna,
Ekko
7 included since noone bans Janna anyway. The top 6 bans here coincide well with the actual top 6 bans, and only include Ekko as a tannky top meta guy. Save for Ekko, only Maokai is included as a tanky top guy in the top 12.
If we're looking at actual stats (from Leagueofgraphs, Diamond+), these are the top 6:
Ekko,
Kindred,
Zed,
Taric,
Nidalee,
Soraka.
Ekko is the only one that fits the good old tanky top meta.
Next 6 are:
Graves,
Yi,
Malphite,
Maokai,
Alistar,
Azir.
There's a grand total of 3 champions in the top 12 actual bans that fit the tanky top meta.
If we're talking anecdotal stuff, I never see Fizz banned. Maokai is occasionally banned, but Nidalee is much higher. Zed is still a priority ban. Typically there's never more than two tanks banned, and it's not uncommon to see only one banned.
We've already looked at bestbans stats for NA so we can skip those. Best ban stats for EUW are interesting though:
Kindred,
Soraka,
Zed,
Taric,
Nidalee,
Janna,
Ekko
7 included since noone bans Janna anyway. The top 6 bans here coincide well with the actual top 6 bans, and only include Ekko as a tannky top meta guy. Save for Ekko, only Maokai is included as a tanky top guy in the top 12.
Yeah, I forgot about Nid, but those were just the bans off the top of my head. My list is what I think the future bans will be.
Anyways, my point is that toplane is still very much tank dominant, just with Fizz and Mao replacing the previous tanks. Rammus was never a symptom of the tank Meta, he was more of symptom of the bruiser ADCs. Pretty sure last patch the only tanks banned were Naut and Poppy anyways. Fizz doesn't have a high banrate but he deserves one.
I think Zed is strong, but his banrate is too high considering that Liss and Kayle are quite strong right now.
Essentially
Ekko = Ekko
Naut = Mao
Poppy = Fizz
Rammus = Sion?
Malphite = Malphite
Anyways, my point is that toplane is still very much tank dominant, just with Fizz and Mao replacing the previous tanks. Rammus was never a symptom of the tank Meta, he was more of symptom of the bruiser ADCs. Pretty sure last patch the only tanks banned were Naut and Poppy anyways. Fizz doesn't have a high banrate but he deserves one.
I think Zed is strong, but his banrate is too high considering that Liss and Kayle are quite strong right now.
Essentially
Ekko = Ekko
Naut = Mao
Poppy = Fizz
Rammus = Sion?
Malphite = Malphite