The transformation of Graves over the past few months is astounding. Its kinda cool that Riot wants to keep it this way but yea he's pretty much instaban at this point.
Nah they don't want to be like Dota.
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The transformation of Graves over the past few months is astounding. Its kinda cool that Riot wants to keep it this way but yea he's pretty much instaban at this point.
Nah they don't want to be like Dota.
Orochinagis
Member
its passive reduces the CD of active item, use it alot for Face of the mountain, is that bad?
Ok, Seju and Jinx
Mmmm a random jinx build the 1,3k sword, rushed the hurricane and destroyed our team, I tried and it was okay.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Removing active items that already exist isn't the way to make your game more distinct, and dumbing it down doesn't make it better.
no stick to diana
active items get less power budget
plus - most 'passives' items are adc items and adc is so mechanically intensive that they dont want a bunch of actives to begin with. and there are too many stat sticks to justify good actives and no stats for an adc
It's not bad but it's not good enough to justify an early purchase.
New Duskblade/Ruby Sightstone assassin meta detected.
Dreams-Visions
Member
I see no reason to object to most champs wanting to buy at least 1 active item in the course of a game. ADC lifestyle isn't that damn mechanically intensive that pressing an extra button is suddenly undue burden. Let's be reasonable.
i fucking love naut
also bronze hubris
enemy team nearly killed our nexus, but decided to tyr and go for kills. it was down to 1k, so we held them off, got a baron, aced them, pushed inner and inhib turret, GTFO, recoup, turtle for a bit, kill a couple, baron, turtle, ACE again, then push to win
also bronze hubris
enemy team nearly killed our nexus, but decided to tyr and go for kills. it was down to 1k, so we held them off, got a baron, aced them, pushed inner and inhib turret, GTFO, recoup, turtle for a bit, kill a couple, baron, turtle, ACE again, then push to win
Stone Ocean
Member
What actives got removed? lol
Dreams-Visions
Member
DFG, as has been discussed already. Unless it's still in the game and I keep overlooking it, which is entirely possible.
Stone Ocean
Member
One item is not "almost all actives".
Dreams-Visions
Member
there are only a handful of them that aren't support items anyway, and that was the only offensive one designed for AP carries. The point remains, though the scope can be better stated. The trend towards passives and passives with cooldowns and uncontrollable active states is a missed opportunity and feels shallow. I blame HOTS.
Stone Ocean
Member
What trend? Riot has added mostly active items until this preseason.
yeah, i disagree with the actives thing, entirely
adding passives to the game isn't dumbing them down, in fact in some cases it's quite the opposite
manging cooldowns and burst timing takes a lot more skill than saying "i want more dmg now" and activating rfc
big difference is that dfg made champions like lizzy assassins which wasn't super cool for counterplay sake cos all the cc she has but idk how fun it's gonna be to get auto'd once by zed for 1/3rd of your health. there's not much counterplay in that except i guess being even more pressured to buy zhonyas
which is still garbage
adding passives to the game isn't dumbing them down, in fact in some cases it's quite the opposite
manging cooldowns and burst timing takes a lot more skill than saying "i want more dmg now" and activating rfc
i mean, i liked dfg a lot, i just think this item is kind of the same
big difference is that dfg made champions like lizzy assassins which wasn't super cool for counterplay sake cos all the cc she has but idk how fun it's gonna be to get auto'd once by zed for 1/3rd of your health. there's not much counterplay in that except i guess being even more pressured to buy zhonyas
which is still garbage
Black-Wind
Member
Just lost a match. In champ select the enemy team banned both Ahri AND Diana (my only reliable mids) so I swapped for sup Lu Lu (probly shoulda done Janna but I wanted to try Lu Lu. Feel like we lost cause of the toxic Garen being mad that he had to lane against Teemo, begging for level 2-3 ganks and leaving his lane cause he was upset).
First time I have ever seen Diana banned. They're catching on to her, gotta beef up my list
Stone Ocean
Member
LuBu
Orochinagis
Member
Otakumegane
Member
I just had 2 Xin games in a row where I went somewhere around 17 to 4
Free elo climb to diamond here I come
Free elo climb to diamond here I come
His 1% crit rune will be terrifying now :^)
Black-Wind
Member
Oh wow, didn't notice how wrong that looked cause I was waiting for champ select lol!
Just had to dodge this one. Someone trying to go Jhin Jg and the enemy team had a Zed. I'm not really afraid of Zed, he's just one of those champs that you can't feed or else they become a nightmare and Zed players seem thirsty as hell for a kill as early as they can get it and someone trying to JG with Jhin seems like a prime time feeder.
(Remember playing against one as The Dragon Lady. It was going well until he slipped out of lane at level 4 to gank top. Feel like it was going well cause Shyvana doesn't have mana and is decently bulky.).
Had a JG Jhin before ... was not a good game.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
thats when you threaten the bard top.
Stone Ocean
Member
Oh, ok, so on top of the new AD ratio on his heal the new bonus damage on Xin's W also procs Warlods.
It's all right, being alive is overrated anyways.
It's all right, being alive is overrated anyways.
Oh god.
look, i don't get angry easy but you've gotten the closest to getting me angry anyone in this god forsaken thread ever has
all ff12 characters that aren't called balthier suck
Thank fuck i'm not bronze 5
4w6l and Bronze 3.
the climb will be easier i'm sure. just won was was a losing battle for a while.
our jihn was useless
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2094125290/33986904?tab=overview
4w6l and Bronze 3.
the climb will be easier i'm sure. just won was was a losing battle for a while.
our jihn was useless
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2094125290/33986904?tab=overview
Ghost is Bad
Banned
lululu lu lululu
Wait, did no one else pick up on that interaction right away?
I'm not entirely convinced it's better than the bonus AD though.
i don't actually mind ashe or blonde soldier mcgruff dude too much, but it's still one of the dullest and less likable casts in the series
it sucks cos the judges were badass af
doesn't work you little pug
Peanut Butter
Member
Oh god. Is that post patch? Guess we're still banning graves.
Stone Ocean
Member
I thought it was just bonus damage like they did with Ashe to make sure she couldn't keep Warlord's up 24/7; It doesn't have to be better than the AD ratio, you just get both at the same time and a bunch of AS lol, this is an insane buff what the fuck
Yeeep.
I'm probably done playing ADC for good as long as Duskblade exists. I'll just be doing the assassinating myself, can't beat em join em, either that or I'm just playing hyper tanks like Sion.
Black-Wind
Member
Welp, hope you can forgive me. Unless it's Pokemon I really suck at strange names. Hell, I suck at spelling normal names.
Just got Diana to level 5 Mastery with this match. Thought it was gonna be a shit show when I saw Snydra. Before level 6 I don't like fucking with ranged mid lane champs ... but she was Sup and Yasuo was mid. Why are Yasuo players so damn cocky? They seem to think that because they don't have mana they can just do what ever they want and dare you to get in melee range. It's the same story over and over ... guess it's cause low level people like me don't know how to play him well? :/
Dude had those wind walls on point and understood that I need to land the Qs to jump on him though.
Gonna buy the Lunar Diana skin now. Decided to only buy skins for champs if I can get them to level 5 Mastery to make sure I'm not wasting RP on something I'm not fully feeling. Plus I think Skins show a bit of pride in your champ.
I meant the bonus AD from Fervor. The name of the mastery escaped me at the moment.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Because as Zky will tell you, certain (maybe most?) AD Assassins lose their relevancy after about 30 minutes. They no longer do enough to burst anyone and without their combo being off CD (a combo which usually includes a fairly high CD ultimate), they simply become large minions in late game team fights. Not that the damage they can put out isn't appreciated, but if an assassin can only injure rather than assassinate, they aren't able to do their job.
The problem is in the implementation. Every team is going to have two of these Duskblades on their team, and it won't be only designated Assassin champs carrying them. That's a fairly scary prospect.