Wolf Akela
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Happy with the upcoming ARAM patch. I'm so glad they're not pushing through with removing the support items. A lot of tanks really benefit from Targon.
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League of Legends |OT12| No more Lyte, just darkness.
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BreezyLimbo
Banned
It hurts Swain alot more than you think. The only ways to make this good is if they up the damage and increase the healing again. The whole reason his healing was nerfed was because he healed too much on a low CD.
So if they're going to increase the CD on it, increase the damage, lower the mana cost, and increase the healing. Pick 2 of the 3.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
His ult isn't oppressive. It doesn't do alot of damage. It's the low CD sustain that's strong. Nerfing it by 300% is just way overboard. Even 20 seconds would be a bit better, but 30 seconds? Nah. Not for the mana it takes, not for the small damage it does, and now not for the post nerfed healing aspect of it.
I feel that the nerf to catalyst during this patch is also meant to hit primarily Swain, as well.
I feel that the nerf to catalyst during this patch is also meant to hit primarily Swain, as well.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I will turn into a crow and burn down league if this change goes through
I will play Yorick all the way to Diamond 1
I will play Yorick all the way to Diamond 1
Peanut Butter
Member
yea
Illaoi getting robbed
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
And karma, taliya, reksai...
Peanut Butter
Member
And Ezreal
Vincent Alexander
Member
I'm always happy to see Fizz nerfed. Can't belief his hit box was so small.
... I now more than ever want Popstar Rek'sai to be a skin.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I don't know why I have this, but here you go
yea
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BreezyLimbo
Banned
She's essentially URF Sona at level 16 and 45% cdr. She's gonna need so much mana to be able to use that much cdr. She does become more interesting at least.
sona changes are kind of cool
tying base cdr to her ult sounds like an interesting change since it kind of ties her aura spams to mid-lategame while allowing her spells feel more powerful in lane
not sure how it's gonna look but sounds smart to me
also again i don't like this buff to syndra, i think it's dumb and boring and i wish i had my cool looking q balls back
They are both still perma bans even after their latest nerfs, so it's not really uncalled for. Maybe the Swain nerf is overboard (scaling the cd down with levels maybe?), but the Kindred one is definitely not. She's still one of the absolute top junglers.
sona changes are kind of cool
tying base cdr to her ult sounds like an interesting change since it kind of ties her aura spams to mid-lategame while allowing her spells feel more powerful in lane
not sure how it's gonna look but sounds smart to me
also again i don't like this buff to syndra, i think it's dumb and boring and i wish i had my cool looking q balls back
yo' those movement speed buffs on her e!!!
Black-Wind
Member
First time Illaoi ... IDK how these things happened but I'm not gonna bitch about it.
Also I ran DFT on her ... I think it was more useful than Grasp or w/e would have been.
On one hand, they may have been held back by their garbage earthbender support champ. Buuuut on the other hand our Naut Jg not only went Attack speed build but also DCed for like 3-4 mins randomly and I was camped all game with zero pressure from him when he was on. Plus our Kat had to go against the relentless push Donger build.
Also I ran DFT on her ... I think it was more useful than Grasp or w/e would have been.
On one hand, they may have been held back by their garbage earthbender support champ. Buuuut on the other hand our Naut Jg not only went Attack speed build but also DCed for like 3-4 mins randomly and I was camped all game with zero pressure from him when he was on. Plus our Kat had to go against the relentless push Donger build.
Stone Ocean
Member
Meddler said they're still assessing how hard they'll hit Swain since RoA just got nerfed
That said I dunno about CD nerfs for AP champions when the game literally shits out CDR these days
That said I dunno about CD nerfs for AP champions when the game literally shits out CDR these days
Yesterday I set out to play my daily bot game for the easy IP, but once we got to the loading screen I noticed none of my teammates actually had their keystones... then, a couple minutes in we were 1/5 and things just kept getting worse. I'm really glad I had licked Annie to support with, because I'm sure we'd have lost had I picked someone that's better at setting up kills since my teammates (except for a lone MF) all sucked. By the end, I had done nearly as much damage to champions as the rest of my team combined, and our lovely 0/10/2 Cass (who idled near fountain for over five minutes) built two AD items worth 1K gold and only spent gold on a single potion or two after every death after the 9-minute mark; oh, and she had the gall to ping me when I walked up to bots and killed them in her lane.
I acually kind of wish I had the time to help my team understand the game more, but with three players doing horrendously I was really struggling to keep the team into the game, let alone go baybisit Cass while the rest of the map burned in order to explain to her how she was a mage, how her abilities worked and that she should follow the shop's recommended items to start with.
I acually kind of wish I had the time to help my team understand the game more, but with three players doing horrendously I was really struggling to keep the team into the game, let alone go baybisit Cass while the rest of the map burned in order to explain to her how she was a mage, how her abilities worked and that she should follow the shop's recommended items to start with.
Agree'd. I guess Riot really admires the crappy random loot boxes in SMITE. Smite is much worse though to be fair- almost all the decent skins is hidden behind a random loot crate with awful odds of getting good skins
But that's my only complaint about Smite tho. Overwatch drew me away from Smite too
[edit] (funny thought) Overwatch has loot boxes too. It's a freakin' plague lol
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At least Swain saw some pro play. Cant recall even seeing Irelia there but I could be wrong. I've fallen behind on LCS
yea
so cute!!!
Yeah it seems like League of Nerfs
I only had time to run two bot games on Saturday. Saw Taliyah on free rotation. First game got carried. Second game sort of figured out her kit.
Now I see Kindred is on free rotation. I might give him a try although it sounds like he/she's nerf inbound
Irelia saw quite a lot of pro play over the last 2 weeks. She was one of the more popular top laners.
Orochinagis
Member
Now she can run to her death instead of being a useless tank
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anyways i like the changes a lot cos they seem to give her a fair bit of extra gameplay that's not just picking people off since between the shorter cd on q and the w procs she'll have something to do in a teamfight
i wonder how q and her w proc thing will interact too, does she get 50 more aa range for her q? that'd be pretty neat
i really like these changes, they feel very fresh
anyways i like the changes a lot cos they seem to give her a fair bit of extra gameplay that's not just picking people off since between the shorter cd on q and the w procs she'll have something to do in a teamfight
i wonder how q and her w proc thing will interact too, does she get 50 more aa range for her q? that'd be pretty neat
i really like these changes, they feel very fresh
Black-Wind
Member
I actually always hoped that they would rework her into a top lane juggernaut.
If they allowed her to be viable as a solo laner then I would love to try her out.
If they allowed her to be viable as a solo laner then I would love to try her out.
Black-Wind
Member
Well, Trundle eats up most top laners.
Don't expect her to be viable top anytime soon but would love it if they did it.
Don't expect her to be viable top anytime soon but would love it if they did it.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
No see they need to add a day night cycle, and Leona heals extra fast during daytime
Bam sustain issues solved
Bam sustain issues solved
That's not an issue, that's a weakness!
Orochinagis
Member
So Nocturne will be her nemesis?
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
They will have to revert it.
Pretty sure that's a mechanic on Dota, there's a champ that gets stronger at night I know.
Yup, that it is.
I mean...she's still really strong.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
She aint as strong or braindead as yi though.
Q to win aint viable with her.
idk about the current stats on wr and all that jazz but the last patch already knocked her down significantly with the massive q nerfs and increased reliance on getting your stacks.
Are either of you looking at the same statistics I am? Because I see a mechanically intensive champion with a ~53% win rate. How in the hell is that weak? Just because she dropped significantly in the last patch doesn't have any bearing on whether or not she's still strong.
Also, love the change to her W slowing monsters. Very inspired, though it might be a touch overturned.
Not a fan of the Tahm changes. Until they make him less frustrating to play against when he W saves an ally he'll continue to have balance issues.
Also, love the change to her W slowing monsters. Very inspired, though it might be a touch overturned.
Not a fan of the Tahm changes. Until they make him less frustrating to play against when he W saves an ally he'll continue to have balance issues.
it's not excessively strong either now, which is the point. The nerfs lined up on pbe would gut her.