PhillipCostigan
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Real talk zkylon Syndra just got the winter skin less than a year ago, would have been even more recent when these were being concepted.
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Reivaxe
Member
That may be the case but I still feel Syndra was robbed.
Unless she's a ... FALLEN/ DARK SG WHO TOOK THE POWER SHE WAS GIFTED AND REJECTED THE RESPONABLITY OF A LIFE LONG COMMITMENT, using that power as she likes!!! >
Reivaxe
Member
New page so Imma bring this up ...
Gaf, I got a problem.
I've been playing so much damn Illaoi that she's become my most played Champ. Above Diana who I used to learn mid lane and was my main for so long. Above Sion who I used all the fucking time until Dashy Mc Hop Hop melee carries became the new meta over tanks.
I've gotta say I think I'm getting good with her. Been using her to get back into rank and I've been winning a good deal. According to OP I have a 60% win rate with her which I assume is good. (Guessing that's counting all the games I played to learn her)
But now ... because she's so damn unique and different to other champs ... I feel like I have no clue how the fuck to play any other champ I was good with before. Like I legit feel like a new born baby horse playing Diana or Trundle. I'm just sitting there thinking "what's this shit? How am I supposed to fight this clown with Au-au-auto attacks? :/". Sion's not too bad cause his kit is full of AOE skill shoots and he can take a hit but it's nothing like Illaoi's "2v1 me brah" style. My most recent Trundle game was one were I played like a bitch in a match up I use to beast on. 2 of my 4 kills came from me realizing that "unlike with Illaoi I don't HAVE to stay in this area at this level! I can just walk away and not lose meh power" and rotated mid to clean up their low bot lane that just got some kills.
Not sure what to do. Keep doing what works or try to invest more time into learning other champs? Cause I like playing ranked as the wins actually count for something but I don't wanna drag champs into it blind just cause Illaoi was banned or I was given Mid.
Noticed this was a major problem today when I got Mid and played Vel into LB. Won with a 2/10 KDA. I legit had to remind myself over and over that I can't just E people after they hit me cause I was just letting them drop the DPS on me thinking I could turn it or not being more careful about BC hooks cause in Illaoi mode you WANT to be in their group, ulting :/
Gaf, I got a problem.
I've been playing so much damn Illaoi that she's become my most played Champ. Above Diana who I used to learn mid lane and was my main for so long. Above Sion who I used all the fucking time until Dashy Mc Hop Hop melee carries became the new meta over tanks.
I've gotta say I think I'm getting good with her. Been using her to get back into rank and I've been winning a good deal. According to OP I have a 60% win rate with her which I assume is good. (Guessing that's counting all the games I played to learn her)
But now ... because she's so damn unique and different to other champs ... I feel like I have no clue how the fuck to play any other champ I was good with before. Like I legit feel like a new born baby horse playing Diana or Trundle. I'm just sitting there thinking "what's this shit? How am I supposed to fight this clown with Au-au-auto attacks? :/". Sion's not too bad cause his kit is full of AOE skill shoots and he can take a hit but it's nothing like Illaoi's "2v1 me brah" style. My most recent Trundle game was one were I played like a bitch in a match up I use to beast on. 2 of my 4 kills came from me realizing that "unlike with Illaoi I don't HAVE to stay in this area at this level! I can just walk away and not lose meh power" and rotated mid to clean up their low bot lane that just got some kills.
Not sure what to do. Keep doing what works or try to invest more time into learning other champs? Cause I like playing ranked as the wins actually count for something but I don't wanna drag champs into it blind just cause Illaoi was banned or I was given Mid.
Noticed this was a major problem today when I got Mid and played Vel into LB. Won with a 2/10 KDA. I legit had to remind myself over and over that I can't just E people after they hit me cause I was just letting them drop the DPS on me thinking I could turn it or not being more careful about BC hooks cause in Illaoi mode you WANT to be in their group, ulting :/
lol :>
killatopak
Member
Don't worry. Raita gonna milk those doujins.
So, Jayce and Orianna are getting more popular. DV and zkylon rejoice?
Dreams-Visions
Member
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Stone Ocean
Member
inb4 nerfs
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Im 50% mad.
Xeilyn
Member
Bleh, sorry for caring
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
I agreee but poppy has no good skin right now so...
*curb your enthusiasm gif*
idk, a ton of champions can oneshot or pratically oneshot you even if they're not assassins. i'm thinking of most junglers early game and some adcs and tops, as well as most mages even if it's less instant than assassinsIDK, I feel like the easier it is for you to 100 to zero someone the more you have to be punished if you can't do that.
That's the big flaw in balancing them IMO. No one likes being Insta booped so making them not do that is better for those people playing against them but is gonna be less appealing to thos "Check out how I insta booped this loser, dude!
the problem with assassins for me has always been that ALL they do is oneshot people, so when u tone them down so they take a bit more time for it they turn out to be useless cos why would i play leblanc who has to get fairly close and can't waveclear when i can just fish for q's with lux from 1k range and oneshot ppl anyways and also i have ranged waveclear
that's why like half a year ago i was talking about making assassins play more like a "trickster" class, add a lot of diversion and deception qualities to assassins so if they're not gonna be main waveclear and they're not gonna be oneshotting ppl in a quarter of a second then they can make ur team waste time chasing them, they can bait summoners, etc.
i'd say it's more of a cheese than a legit strat, specially in ranked where ppl are gonna be tilted at champ select if they see you pick sion
well i didn't like snow syndra very much so that's double lame for me :>
if it works for u then go ahead. i have a friend that got diamond playing singed, has like 3 only-singed smurfs on high plat and that's all he can do
pick some safe and easy champion for ur off-role (velkoz is fine) and you're set
the explanation on ori is pretty good, specially since solo q idiots seem to be buying luden's echo on her of all things
ori feels in a good place right now, like i said when she got buffed, i feel like everyone's cd should be nerfed to a number closest to hers instead of other way around, but i'll take it. i understand that's too much but i feel like in this meta you can't play around ultimates anymore, you trade ultis in lane and you go back and people always have them again and it's not that rare that you ult twice in a same teamfight and shit
i really don't like that, i feel like 40% cdr is cool but right now there's zero tradeoffs and it just feels like the risk reward stuff of using your ultimate just isn't there, i'll spend ori ults on the support and not get punished for it, i don't think that's how the game should be
nah, that's gonna be syndra
she's gonna be top tier at worlds i feel
yeah, they should make her vfx blue
these are so good
deft just ROCKING that jacket
i feel like only way it could be better is if deft was shirtless
Stone Ocean
Member
CDR is too easy to get these days. 40% should be something you go out of your way for, not something that's fucking handed to you because you have CDR runes and bought core items. Abyssal and Zhonya's have no business having CDR.
i don't have a problem with zhonyas and abyssal having cdr, to me that's kind of fitting and makes them better as laning items which is very good
but i think most champions' cds should've been nerfed to compensate, similar to what they did with mana
this also includes ad since youmuus is now super strong
also since EVERYBODY runs cdr/lvl blues nowadays, maybe remove rune system altogether :>
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Woah lets not get to crazy here.
Stone Ocean
Member
At the very least CDR runes no longer have a place in this game
killatopak
Member
CDR is very easy to get these day on any champ.
Like you wouldn't normally get cdr on adcs and mid laners at all last season. Mid laners rely more on bursts than sustained damage and adc was more on kiting while aa.
Like you wouldn't normally get cdr on adcs and mid laners at all last season. Mid laners rely more on bursts than sustained damage and adc was more on kiting while aa.
wait cdr on mids was always core
it's just that now you have 10% from runes and 10% from zhonyas/abyssal on top of morellos
killatopak
Member
It was only morellos and athene's back then. You get your other cdrs from runes and the additional 5 from masteries. Nowadays, you don't even need the cdr runes to get full 40% cdr.
Now there's a lot like the hextech items as well as zhonya and abyssal. Most mids even take ionians as well cause of the new passive and forgoing sorc boots.
Top laners get a lot of cdr now between the Death's Dance new IBG, Trinity and even Warmogs.
ADC gets the Essence's Reaver or even goes for the new ionian+ghostblade+BC for full 40%.
Supports gets even more CDR not only in their items but also because of how items slots are more efficient for them because of the new ward items Eye of the ****.
Junglers basically just get items from laners.
There's too much cdr that sometimes riot balances on that fact.
Troubled Bat
Member
I knew something felt off. I was too into her design to notice it.
Make her stuff blue!! It's not fair at all.
Reivaxe
Member
That actually does sound like a good idea. I feel like that's what they're going for with the Rework, saying that they're looking into giving them counter play and having them have to take more time to kill you as well as changing some of their mobility/ stealth.
I know from the 3-5 times I've played Fizz that the most fun I had was just being a slippery fuck. Feel like that's the appeal to some champs like Fizz and Shaco and Zed and such so maybe they're gonna play on that with the reworks.
I think it's a bit of both. It's a LIL BIT like Shaco Top in that part of Sion mid is making the enemy laner regret logging in by tilting the hell outta them. If you can force a Fizz or w/e to stay mid and make it to mid game being under farmed without feeding them then that in it's self can be a boon for the team. Just relies too much on your team comp cause a 2/0 Sion building ZZrot and tank aint gonna stop the enemy too good if bot lane is feeding and there's no good AP dmg on the team.
Yeah, but sometimes I get Illaoi banned from me and I'd like to not have to take Vel Top just cause I don't wanna dodge.
And besides, it's a game. I haven't played most champs yet so I'd still like to mess with some others.
Agreed, I hope they change that. I get why her skills don't change shape as much as others but at least make them have a interesting color change.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
no offense dude but you're probably the last person on leaguegaf that should be giving out advice on what to do mid.
PhillipCostigan
Member
The issue with Poppy's skills is one of clarity: her Q and W have to be pretty close to the base for in-game reads. It's a tradeoff we have to make sometimes.
In the meantime, here's some Star Guardian animations and VFX (including recalls) while we wait for a certain friend of the forest to make his entrance.
In the meantime, here's some Star Guardian animations and VFX (including recalls) while we wait for a certain friend of the forest to make his entrance.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I might be in for Candy King Ivern
Candy King Muradin is a great skin. We need more Candy Kings in video games
Candy King Muradin is a great skin. We need more Candy Kings in video games
Who's leg do I have to hump to get some kit info on Ivern on the PBE today?
Oh, heeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy buddy.
Oh, heeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy buddy.
PhillipCostigan
Member
please don't hump my leg
killatopak
Member
not his leg then.
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PhillipCostigan
Member
pls no
Stone Ocean
Member
What about kissing
That walking/running animation
https://www.facebook.com/leagueoflegends/videos/10157715969660556/
wot
https://www.facebook.com/leagueoflegends/videos/10157715969660556/
wot
Is that a Rito enforced policy? No humping allowed?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Another pet summoning class
Doesnt have jungle monsters follow him but summons a golem
I'm a fair guy Costy, still willing to hump that leg.
Holy shit I love that running animation.
PhillipCostigan
Member
The reveal page isn't working so here are the abilities:
Passive: Ivern loves jungle monsters and would never harm them. Instead, he sets them free! Clicking on any jungle camp creates a grove using some of Ivern's health and mana. The grove matures over time; when fully grown it can be clicked on again to free the camp's denizens, granting Ivern gold and XP. Smiting a camp with a grove on it instantly sends the monsters to safety.
After level five, the Green Father creates copies of the red and blue buff whenever he frees the Red Brambleback or Blue Sentinel—they'll leave behind a sapling which can be picked up by allies.
Q: Ivern shoots out a ropey root that deals magic damage and (as you'd expect) roots the first enemy it hits. Allies who use a basic attack on the rooted target will automatically dash to get within attack range.
W: Passive: When hiding in brush, Ivern's basic attacks have increased magic damage and range. This effect lasts for a couple seconds after Ivern leaves the brush.
Active: Ivern creates a patch of brush, temporarily revealing the area around it. The amount of brush created is slightly greater if it's placed near a wall or any other brush. The Green Father's grassy patches disappear on their own after a moderate delay.
E: Ivern places a protective seed onto his ally, granting them a shield. After a short delay the seed explodes, damaging and slowing all nearby enemies.
R: Ivern summons Daisy, an enormous sentinel who loves hugs. Daisy scampers around joyfully, knocking up Ivern's target after a few hits. Ivern can recast this ability to direct his boisterous friend toward new targets. She'll hang around until her hankering for hugs has been satisfied, or until her health bar is depleted.
Passive: Ivern loves jungle monsters and would never harm them. Instead, he sets them free! Clicking on any jungle camp creates a grove using some of Ivern's health and mana. The grove matures over time; when fully grown it can be clicked on again to free the camp's denizens, granting Ivern gold and XP. Smiting a camp with a grove on it instantly sends the monsters to safety.
After level five, the Green Father creates copies of the red and blue buff whenever he frees the Red Brambleback or Blue Sentinel—they'll leave behind a sapling which can be picked up by allies.
Q: Ivern shoots out a ropey root that deals magic damage and (as you'd expect) roots the first enemy it hits. Allies who use a basic attack on the rooted target will automatically dash to get within attack range.
W: Passive: When hiding in brush, Ivern's basic attacks have increased magic damage and range. This effect lasts for a couple seconds after Ivern leaves the brush.
Active: Ivern creates a patch of brush, temporarily revealing the area around it. The amount of brush created is slightly greater if it's placed near a wall or any other brush. The Green Father's grassy patches disappear on their own after a moderate delay.
E: Ivern places a protective seed onto his ally, granting them a shield. After a short delay the seed explodes, damaging and slowing all nearby enemies.
R: Ivern summons Daisy, an enormous sentinel who loves hugs. Daisy scampers around joyfully, knocking up Ivern's target after a few hits. Ivern can recast this ability to direct his boisterous friend toward new targets. She'll hang around until her hankering for hugs has been satisfied, or until her health bar is depleted.
killatopak
Member
where does the jungle minions go when that ivern takes them?
edit: ohh.
wait what role is he?
edit: ohh.
wait what role is he?
PhillipCostigan
Member
He is a jungle support. I don't think his laning is very good tho, definitely a jungler.
Coordination is key! but it puts them within attack range, so nothing dangerous for ADCs
He is only ranged while standing in brush, and I don't think he's ADC range even at that.
Reivaxe
Member
Well fuck, sorry if I pissed in your cereal or something. Just trying to describe how the concept works as I've seen it successfully used and have used it myself in the past.
It's not something I pulled outta my butt, I can actually post a vid of a D1 Sion mid vs Qtpie which inspired him to try it.
Never said I was good at anything or that you should do w/e. Hell, I stopped doing it for the reasons I listed ... but like any off meta pick it's something that can work if done right and done well.
Stone Ocean
Member
So he can create a grove then smite to instantly "clear" a camp? That sounds strong
Ghost is Bad
Banned
i would not list imaqtpie as a reliable source of midlane prowess in any situation.Well fuck, sorry if I pissed in your cereal or something. Just trying to describe how the concept works as I've seen it successfully used and have used it myself in the past.
It's not something I pulled outta my butt, I can actually post a vid of a D1 Sion mid vs Qtpie which inspired him to try it.
Never said I was good at anything or that you should do w/e. Hell, I stopped doing it for the reasons I listed ... but like any off meta pick it's something that can work if done right and done well.
PhillipCostigan
Member
Troubled Bat
Member
I was right about Ivern being the support of the jungle?! Oh shit! And his walking with his lanky self is adorable.. Aaaah <3 My new character!