Yeah, it's probably good to get some sense of competetion.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
League of Legends |OT12| No more Lyte, just darkness.
- Thread starter zkylon
- Start date
Yeah, it's probably good to get some sense of competetion.
Black-Wind
Member
Can someone explain why you get Sterak's Gage? is it just for the passive?
Cause I got it on Illaoi and looked at my stats ... AD only went went up by like 20 I think. Was left wondering "Uhhh ... was this worth it or should I have just gotten something else instead?"
Cause I got it on Illaoi and looked at my stats ... AD only went went up by like 20 I think. Was left wondering "Uhhh ... was this worth it or should I have just gotten something else instead?"
Stone Ocean
Member
You get Sterak's to become really fucking hard to kill, the AD is just a bonus.
Picture it as the physical damage version of Maw.
she gets extra scaling on her q tho, so that probably offsets most of it
it's a way bigger nerf for waveclear than it is for harass
the forbidden idol stuff, yeah, idk, 10% more shields/heals for 300g doesn't sound that bad for me honestly, specially since being percentage based it scales with your level/ap
so like on lulu you'll naturally get more mileage out of it by building fqc and ranking e up etc.
it's important to know that league hasn't really dropped much, it had like 30% before, now it's 28%, which means most of the overwatch ppl come from other games/ppl that didn't play before
if it were a situation that ppl were massively fleeing league i wouldn't say this is a cool opportunity cos that would probably mean league is sinking, but this probably means it's a big new game and not necessarily a real threat to league
that being said, it is a warning call for rito that you can't just rest on ur laurels cos a game can easily come out of nowhere and become #1 overnight, so it creates some pressure on riot to stay relevant/competitive even if they're not really losing players themselves
and that's hopefully good news for us players as it means riot has more reasons to be nice to us
Interesting. I agree.
Stone Ocean
Member
Speaking of Lulu buffs, from the new PBE patch
definitely trying to move lulu to support role only
idk how i feel about this, riot seems to like locking down champions into certain roles a little too much
What? That change is a straight buff to both Lulu versions.
Right now support Lulu is not viable. She might get viable in two roles if the buffs hit correctly, or she will just get viable in one role again, but another role.
Stone Ocean
Member
That's because allowing champions to be played in multiple roles rarely if ever works out.
Also these buffs benefit both carry and support Lulu.
i mean in conjunction with the other lulu changes, it's moving her to even more of a utility role.
Oh, yeah, it likely will. We'll still have to see it in action though, it's possible mid Lulu won't be hit too much by the Q changes. They did up the numbers when they added the 70% thing, after all.
Dobkeratops
OT Hard Carry
All these ARAM changes and still no full roster enabled in this mode. What's the rationale? Does Riot encourage ARAM only accounts? I'm a tad sick of being pitched against the same 10-15 broken champs every game.
SenorArdilla
Member
Got a chest drop on ARAM. Lovely.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
gold 3
gold 3
i've gotten times like that in bronze too
Ghost is Bad
Banned
excellent matchmaking system at work here.
SenorArdilla
Member
Another chest. This must be how good players feel.
Peanut Butter
Member
normal lobbies > ranked lobbies
SenorArdilla
Member
Just had a LB player tell their teammates to go back to Mexico.
Vincent Alexander
Member
While a good read, it did leave me with a burning question I've always wondered....how did the nickname "Costy" come about? Obviously a play on your last name, but I'm hoping there is a good story with it.In case you guys are interested I interviewed xPeke about Origen and searching for a new ADC
I couldnt read that chart since it was in Korean. Interesting to see OW take top spot. Like you elude to- I guess Riot might not be too alarmed. I'm thinking the only thing that could really hurt League is Riot themselves.
And man- you're right if all champs were free that would be so swweeeettt. It might kinda work out for Riot seeing as how many champs got like 10 skins or something (probably big exaggeration pulled outta my butt)
Honestly I guess the game is still just as good as the day I first played it. But it hasn't gotten much more fun if that makes any sense. They never seem to add any really cool features like sandbox mode, officially supported replays, mods, different ranked modes, etc. They just keep making safe changes kinda. Granted they took a big risk with Dynamic Queue and got burned for it. But it kinda reinforces my point- instead of messing with the classic formula I'd instead try to avoid more cool new modes
edit->
I think a bunch of people have quit ranked. They probably saw "auto-fill" popup and blazed
Troubled Bat
Member
Dark Star Thresh is out, and I don't even have money.
as someone that loves midlane lulu i'm super into these changes
idea of playing mid lulu is that u add a shit ton of scaling utility to your team, so i'm cool with them nerfing her waveclear to give her more utility, specially if they don't nerf it that much
lulu's awesome
also the slow change in particular makes sense cos a 1s slow is pretty short, so it's not that big of a deal but it just makes sense for it to be that way.
overall i'd say both lulus end up stronger from these changes, so i'm pretty pleased, specially since they added a bit of a new mechanic to her e
balancing for multiple roles has always been a nightmare for rito, so it's probably for the best. not what's happening here tho, but yeah
fuck tank ekko
riot is really dumb about this
i remember when south american server got started they enabled all the champions for everyone so playing arams was the best shit ever
and yeah it's crazy that they did so much work rebalancing it only to not add the most important change they should've done
there's not much of a reason for riot to make champions free as:
- #1 is it probably makes a shit ton of money for them
- creates a sort of smoother progression curve for new players than having to face 120 champions all at once (since new players generally only play the free week champions they slowly learn 10 champs every week)
- removing champions would make the ip currency pointless which is already a pretty dumb currency anyways
- $$$
but hey, would be cool, but they have to have systems in place to account for it, and they don't, so ehh, probably not in our lifetimes
Dang bingegaming (n3ac3y) went off on why there's no point to climbing ranked in Dynamic Q. might bring some light why a lot of higher elo are rerolling smurfs. Granted its just his opinion though
BreezyLimbo
Banned
yeah
from the looks and sounds of it, most of the userbase is in silver/bronze, and the diamond+ community is extremely small.
Stone Ocean
Member
It's a vicious cycle as far as NA high elo goes. Their own attitude torwards the ladder makes their queues worse, which makes them smurf, which makes queues even worse because challenger MMR is dead, and so on and on and on. And then there's the whole boosting problem.
Honestly, I don't think the current system will work as long as one player can have more than one challenger account. Dynamic Q would probably suit better a pure ELO system.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I'm all for perma banning smurfs from challengers
perma ban the players
bar them from competition
Yes, yes. Enact the Solo-queue mandate. Pro players must queue from 9-5 every day. Every hour after they will earn 50 riot points. Streaming afterwards will be mandatory.
did you watch the video? Not trying to start an argument but I think you missed the point completely. He compares Dynamic Queue to 'mario party' because people can play dynamic with their friends and climb together. This did not exist last season (mario party and pro players not wanting to be involved with it)
Another topic somewhat related: I cant help but wonder how popular League of Legends really is. None of my friends play anymore. Not a single one. And I am literally surrounded by gamers. Instead we all play overwatch, HoTS, and I watch my neighbor play Herathstone while we watch Game of Thrones together
I wear my Overwatch shirt out in public I'm bound to run into another fan (not exaggerating, today wore my Genji shirt and met another fan).
I'm not stupid tho and going to say League is dying. But I am thinking its going to have to get used to being runner up. All they do is spam new champs and skins. Not much meaningful content since I've started playing
I wear my Overwatch shirt out in public I'm bound to run into another fan (not exaggerating, today wore my Genji shirt and met another fan).
I'm not stupid tho and going to say League is dying. But I am thinking its going to have to get used to being runner up. All they do is spam new champs and skins. Not much meaningful content since I've started playing
Yes, I watched the video.
His main crux is that there's no point to reach challenger because people are just queuing up and getting "carried".
I'm arguing there's no point to challenger because in NA challenger is a joke. It has been a joke for years.
I'm going to make one more whine post then probably hush for a bit.
But I remember how EXCITED I was for the new client. I expected something like Dota Reborn's UI where everything is integrated and we could hopefully get some fast loading maps.
NOPE
At least they finally added weekend warrior so thats good. LCS is still amazing.
Oh right they added these awful random loot chest things....
But I remember how EXCITED I was for the new client. I expected something like Dota Reborn's UI where everything is integrated and we could hopefully get some fast loading maps.
NOPE
At least they finally added weekend warrior so thats good. LCS is still amazing.
Oh right they added these awful random loot chest things....
Ah fair point, thank you for clarifying I misunderstood
i like these players
That's because it is. And any elo system is going to have the majority of the players at the bottom. That's just how it is. Not everyone is a grandmaster. Very few are.
League had 90 million monthly users in 2015. It may have gone up or down, but let's say it's fallen by 20 million, and I seriously doubt it's that much, if at all. But let's be conservative at 70 million. That's 700% more than Overwatch and that game is on fire. That's 600% more than Dota 2's monthly users. That's 1000% more than World of Warcraft subscribers. Hearthstone has 40 million accounts period.
It's nowhere close to being runner up to anything. And I'm not just blindly defending the game. I only play it once or twice a week, and only with friends, and recently only in Twisted Treeline. I dunno. I just think you have Blizzard fans for friends.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
but then you have places like the s. korean league servers where masters/challengers are actually plentiful and none of the issues that NA has exists over there(in terms of queue time/finding games/going against competitive people).
I've run into enough players like you that I don't show my picks anymore. Plus when you do this you have a decent chance of tilting your teammate. Actually, it feels increasingly common that the players I get matched with have stopped showing their picks too, so every time I ban I have to ask "are you planning on playing (Swain/Voli/etc.)?"
So now we just have an extra half minute of wait time at the start of pick/bans.
I predict all Lulu winrates will drop if the 70% Q damage on non-initial targets change goes through. Feels to me all of you are underestimating how important that damage is to her.