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Yeah I think I'm done with LoL. Don't even feel like playing to bring my rank up. It's just too time consuming. Idk if I'll be back.
maybe when Warwick gets reworked just to try him.
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League of Legends |OT12| No more Lyte, just darkness.
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wait is there a jp version?
why r u quoting me .__.
Sr Kitsune
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Your quote doesnt make sense with your post.
Yeah I am just really confused. Seeing him in games and it's just like...what is this champion supposed to be? Some of the worst kit synergy. I just don't see reliable uses for Triggerseed when it requires melee range but he gains no other benefit to being in melee range. Because of that unreliable CC he lacks the ability to stay safe, and he is definitely not a tank. Also Daisy is just unusablely bad. CD is crazy and the health pool is unbelievably weak, which becomes especially noticeable since she only has hard scaling on the points you put into the ult. 2k HP at level 15 is "good luck" territory.
Stone Ocean
Member
Ivern's Q seems hella bad. Way too slow and narrow a skillshot.
He's basically a shittier launch Bard.
He's basically a shittier launch Bard.
His Q is probably one of the best pick abilities in the game so not surprising that they made it tough to hit. His level 1 stealing enemy buff for free is awesome but his level 2+ jungling is just annoying to the point of not being worth it. Dude is gonna need some tweaks fast
He's just the second utility/support jungler in the game, next to Nunu. Nunu is much better at contesting objectives, but Ivern is supposed to just bring other utility to his team in the form of an extra gap closer and brush generation. Shield/Daisy seems like kinda weak skills though.
It wouldn't surprise me if he after a few small buffs, will be mainly viable when he has Juggernauts in his team. Garen/Darius/Illaoi/Nasus can greatly benefit from the extra gap closer and extra brush.
Then again he might just become overbuffed and dumb with most stuff, but he should reasonably be a good synergy pick with juggernauts.
I would say there is a big difference between a utility/tank character and a utility/mage character though. A utility gap closer is also only situationally useful, so when that is the crux of his kit it just does not even seem like a League character to me. If Ivern himself wanted to close distance regularly I would understand more but it's not like he personally benefits from zooming in. The brush generation concept is really cool but it feels sort of wasted with the rest of the kit.
That big blurb about Rylais and not a single mention of just putting a per champ CD for the slow effect (like Naut, Jarvan, Ekko, etc). Very sad.
Ivern's kit actually makes sense, but there's too many things wrong with how he works mechanically.
Daisy is dumb as rocks and has lots of problems of her own. The cost of Ivern's passive is ridiculous and it kills his mid-game, etc. His counter jungling is completely dependent on having Smite up. Being able to do sneaky stuff like snatch a buff camp at level 1 isn't a worthwhile trade off for the weaknesses in his passive. His base stats are god awful. I haven't been able to fin a single melted champion that's comparable. He's more in line with Zilean, Nami, etc. and other ranged supports.
First thing I'd look to do is correct his passive hp/mana costs. And then, the big one, make him ranged all the time, being in brush just gives passive damage. He's a ranged support through and through. Being melee completely fucks his itemization.
Ivern's kit actually makes sense, but there's too many things wrong with how he works mechanically.
Daisy is dumb as rocks and has lots of problems of her own. The cost of Ivern's passive is ridiculous and it kills his mid-game, etc. His counter jungling is completely dependent on having Smite up. Being able to do sneaky stuff like snatch a buff camp at level 1 isn't a worthwhile trade off for the weaknesses in his passive. His base stats are god awful. I haven't been able to fin a single melted champion that's comparable. He's more in line with Zilean, Nami, etc. and other ranged supports.
First thing I'd look to do is correct his passive hp/mana costs. And then, the big one, make him ranged all the time, being in brush just gives passive damage. He's a ranged support through and through. Being melee completely fucks his itemization.
Stone Ocean
Member
The Rylai change is stupid. Let's make it less universal by making it something every midlaner will get if they don't need GW!
AoE abilities have a meager slow. DoTs don't slow at all. Problem solved. CDR is already trivial, we don't need more options.
AoE abilities have a meager slow. DoTs don't slow at all. Problem solved. CDR is already trivial, we don't need more options.
Dreams-Visions
Member
I detect no lies and will gladly accept this icon, but do not call me Sparkles. I'd loose my street cred.
BreezyLimbo
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SenorArdilla
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The Music Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgWFudHDMzw
Full Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3dSY2zVyt0
killatopak
Gold Member
definitely better.
omfg it's stupid how much better the japanese version of that song is
why even bother making an english version
the current problem with rylais is that there's never a bad reason to buy it, its stats are way too useful and it synergizes great with any other buy you do
you can do abyssal morellos rylais, or morellos rylais void staff, or whatever
by adding cdr to it they force you to choose between rylais and zhonyas/abyssal/morellos, because if u do morellos+rylais you're already cdr capped
if it also gives mana u might have to choose to skip morellos entirely
i'm not sure it's the bestest of ideas, but gutting the passive which is like the whole point of the item seems like a terrible direction for me
i think forcing u to make tradeoffs by giving up other important items like abyssal or zhonyas is much better
why even bother making an english version
i think u guys are misunderstanding the point of putting cdr in it
the current problem with rylais is that there's never a bad reason to buy it, its stats are way too useful and it synergizes great with any other buy you do
you can do abyssal morellos rylais, or morellos rylais void staff, or whatever
by adding cdr to it they force you to choose between rylais and zhonyas/abyssal/morellos, because if u do morellos+rylais you're already cdr capped
if it also gives mana u might have to choose to skip morellos entirely
i'm not sure it's the bestest of ideas, but gutting the passive which is like the whole point of the item seems like a terrible direction for me
i think forcing u to make tradeoffs by giving up other important items like abyssal or zhonyas is much better
Hydrophobic
Member
I think this is basically the dubs vs subs argument? Some people would rather just hear things in their own language.
SenorArdilla
Member
Should have been ranged. And then being in a bush gives you Caitlyn-ranged AAs.
i don't hate the skins, just think they don't look good except for jinx's
also they changed lux's colors which i do hate
why, anime lyrics are nonsense anyways
Hydrophobic
Member
I don't know, man. I do subs myself anways so I can't really tell you. That's just the argument I think I've heard in favor of dubs.
Orochinagis
Member
I am wondering if Riot is gonna bother to make a LATAM version
SenorArdilla
Member
You don't recognize Rengar-chan?
What if the Brushmaker passive is also applied to jungle monsters inside Ivern's groves?
What if the Brushmaker passive is also applied to jungle monsters inside Ivern's groves?
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Zyra dropped to 4800 IP, finally.
Also Jhin is so broken in ARAM.
Also Jhin is so broken in ARAM.
Hydrophobic
Member
Any jungler stream recommendations that aren't Nightblue? Trying to get more into the role.
Oh. I thought it was Ahri in a weird Jinx outfit lmao
Oh. I thought it was Ahri in a weird Jinx outfit lmao
killatopak
Gold Member
I recommend rush but he won't teach you much. You have to learn just by watching him play.
Kind boy Rush is the current jungle hotness even if he is mostly a Lee one trick
Peanut Butter
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Hydrophobic
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Peanut Butter
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hehehe that's not really my channel. I didn't even know some chump out there has a channel named /Breakfasts. Rush is probably the only jungler I watch on Twitch now that I think of it.
killatopak
Gold Member
Mostmanlyman
Member
XD lmao rawr
killatopak
Gold Member
got jinx but no free icon for our region.
getting ideas for your next hentai? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)