Stone Ocean
Member
Costy who do I need to fuck to get a HQ version of that Fire Lux art from the login screen?
His passive procs the new mastery? Jesus christ
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Troubled Bat
Member
yep. so you get the full sustained timer of the W ability (bonus damage and all) because most tops cant break through it at levels 1-3
you are over thinking it. newt lost to a silver garen so don't feel bad. preseason is rough for everyone.
PhillipCostigan
Member
i think the times that i feel completely talentless are when our music team releases something
those folks are so grossly good at what they do it makes me feel inadequate.
those folks are so grossly good at what they do it makes me feel inadequate.
killatopak
Gold Member
you'll just have to make do with thunderlords.
More like thundernerfs
I don't like this new version of it. Preferred the medium-high focus-damage from the prior.
It's less annoying to face at least.
Dreams-Visions
Member
I've only been watching streams so far, but that certainly reflects what I've been seeing.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
see
they should
they should give Rengar perma invisibilty. Remove his burst. Remove his attack leap. Remove his Q and W. Change his Bolas into W. Q will be an aoe strike. E can be a jump that doesn't do damage and isn't targeted(To jump into or away from a group.) And his R should make his auto attacks slightly blink towards an enemy.
There, bam. No more burst that is a fundamental problem on him. He still has a slow, his jump is now changed to his E on a CD that does no damage, and his R is good for keeping attached to a target. Perma invisibilty is his passive or something.
There, bam. Balanced.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
went to the hextech crafting page for the first time since the patch and all my materials (besides chests) are gone.
like
including the essence and fragments?
MrCookiepants
Member
Woo, Leblanc is absolute ass. This is so sad.
Sona is more of an assassin than her.
Sona is more of an assassin than her.
all the material we've been able to collect through events from the year. project skins, worlds. my lvl 6 mastery things were gone, but they're back now that i checked again. key fragments gone, though i only had two.
yea those are no longer usable so they're removedwent to the hextech crafting page for the first time since the patch and all my materials (besides chests) are gone.
no point on having them
that kind of sounds like just another evelynn, not sure if that's too interesting for either rengar or eve
i just think it's dumb for an assassin to be able to turn invisible, him having "camouflage" is kind of a joke if by the time u can see him he's already murdering you with what sounds like even more dmg than before
he also feels (from playing against him at least) just as useless as before when his ult is down
i don't think his rework fixed anything
key fragments too?
that shouldn't happen, wait a bit and if you don't have them back then talk to rito support
i really dislike how i'm supposed to unlearn 3 years of playing her and all i get in return is the clone gimmick thing
i like the clone but she feels so damn bad, i would definitely trade her new karma ult and her clone for her old ult back, that felt so much smoother
it also forced you to be smart in which order you did things which is way more interesting that having everything available to you at all times imo
also i hate the w lockdown thing
ughh i know rito is gonna fix her but i hate her so much
but i'm a virtual hoarder ;-;
Peanut Butter
Member
You don't like Rengar, so until his attacks heal you to full HP, give 2,000 gold to spend on items, plus 500RP once the game is done, you'll never think he's fixed as long as you die to him.
He's fine. His damage might see some reducing, but overall his rework is good.
People expressed their anger with the fact that once the "!" was on your head, you were basically dead, so Riot extended the range to nearly half the map. If I press R at my Krug camp, people at the enemy blue will know I ulted. In addition, they cut off all of his vision, and he now only sees the closest person to him. That + the fact that he now has camouflage means that he can't just run through teams and dive carries with ease.
He's an assassin. Let him be able to kill people fast. I don't get how you can be so critical about a champion like Rengar when Lux, LeBlanc, and Syndra are some of your favorite champions to play.
Terbinator
Member
Distgusting isn't it. W max in the bot lave 1v2ing wad hilarious.
camouflage is kind of meaningless since before you would just drop a pink where you were standing and he wouldn't be able to run through you either. the lack of vision is just reinforcing what his gameplay already was, if he's ulting you group up, nothing has changed
i dislike the idea of "you're alone so you're dead", idk what leblanc or syndra or lux have to do with rengar, none of them can just brute force kill you if you're just alone, not even overextended, just alone
Peanut Butter
Member
Camouflage isn't meaningless because most people weren't smart enough to stock up on pinks to counter stuff like Rengar. As far as the whole being alone thing, that isn't something exclusive to Rengar. Most damage oriented champions are able to pick off people who venture on their own if they're fed enough. Rengar's kit is just able to capitalize on it better. The same thing can be said about Kha'Zix and his isolation mechanic.It's not the champion's fault that enemy players walk through vision with a big red X on their head saying "KILL ME, MY TEAMS NOT HERE!"
I only brought up Lux, LeBlanc, and Syndra because those mages are extremely busted and in addition to being able to 1v1, they can delete priority targets or entire squads even when they are grouped up, but because you play them, it seems like they get a pass.
I think Rengar's ult change is a step in the right direction, but his kit is overloaded now. He gets a mini Ekko ult and mini Olaf ult on his W, and he gets insane damage and scaling on his Q. He gained utility and didn't lose damage; if anything his damage is higher now. His passive grants way too much damage considering his Q.
i don't like khazix either, tho for different reasons
but no other assassin has that crazy movespeed and invisiblity
that combination is really unfun to play against
no, i just don't talk about lux in the context of rengar cos they're nothing alike -___-
ryze is also super broken and i really like playing him so idk where u got the idea i don't criticize champions i like
i've talked a bunch about ahri not long ago, i think you're just being defensive here dood
i was thinking that when he seemed to get more like things to do than just oneshoot you
but he still does that
so i feel like it didn't do anything except get more ppl playing rengar which isn't something u really like to see
Stone Ocean
Member
Thunderlords hasn't been changed in a long time though?More like thundernerfs
I don't like this new version of it. Preferred the medium-high focus-damage from the prior.
It's less annoying to face at least.
MrCookiepants
Member
Yeah, the ult needs to be reverted completely. It feels less unique, less intuitive and thematically off that it doesn't just mimic your last ability.
Her numbers don't make fucking sense. RW at rank 2 does 225 dmg with 50% scaling. Regular W at that point in the game does 245 plus 60% AP. The ult version does LESS damage.
??????????????
Regular Q is just unbelievably bad. What other mage has a 155 base and shitty scaling on their primary ability? 6 second c/d??? This is without question the absolute worst ability in the entire game. Despite this, her RQ is the strongest mimic spell, adding further to the confusion.
What kind of monkey is responsible for this?
Terbinator
Member
Redemption is really fun to use when you're disengaging, active the heal trap card and turn it around and re-engage.
Bjerg seems to think she's really strong and more fun now to boot is it possible you're overreacting? Like if you're trying to play her the same way she used to be played she's gonna be shit but the way she used to be played was horrible to play against
I haven't seen anyone react positively to the RR though lol
Stone Ocean
Member
Her Q base is bad because the damage got moved to her new passive. It was turned into more of a wave clear tool than single target damage.
I can get behind LB feeling clunkier but I don't think she's bad at all. Talon and Kat - minus Rylai's - feel great.
Haven't played against Rengar yet but it sounds like nothing has changed lul
I can get behind LB feeling clunkier but I don't think she's bad at all. Talon and Kat - minus Rylai's - feel great.
Haven't played against Rengar yet but it sounds like nothing has changed lul
Stone Ocean
Member
Oh and new Fervor sucks dick. 10 stacks and no stacking on abilities means it takes forever to be relevant
Bjerg was doing some cool stuff using W on the wave then using Q to pop his passive proc on the enemy from really far away kinda like what you see with ryze E. I think her playstyle is just different now in lane especially and people aren't used to it yet.
Dobkeratops
OT Hard Carry
Really enjoying the Fizz changes. Was my first real game on this patch and I had to carry Nev's ass cuz he was losing to silvers.
PhillipCostigan
Member
today I learned in the updated client that there's a window size option so you can make it bigger and I love it
Stone Ocean
Member
New Kat makes me want to mid again. This shit is FUN
What was Bjork building on her
I know he went abyssal first but idk after that
We're all dooooooooooomed.
Related note, Hecarim is a prime jungle ban right now. Insane win rate and very high play rate.
Related note, Hecarim is a prime jungle ban right now. Insane win rate and very high play rate.
Idk if this is right but I knew these buffs were way too much all he needed was daisy ai fixed and aa added to his Q dash so lame now theyre gonna have to nerf him but they won't just revert anything they'll do something dumb like make his already high passive costs even worse
PhillipCostigan
Member
yep. champ is straight busted. I love it.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Told you Ivern would only be viable by overtuning
I told you
But nooo, breezy youre always wrong and blahblahblah
Stone Ocean
Member
Such overtuning wow
BreezyLimbo
Banned
PhillipCostigan
Member
no the AI just works now