I disagree with that playing support right now is boring, that depends on your pick. Something like your suggestion could be really interesting though.
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I disagree with that playing support right now is boring, that depends on your pick. Something like your suggestion could be really interesting though.
Stone Ocean
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Playing support champions isn't boring at all. Hell, I even enjoy Janna and Soraka. The problem that its hard to feel like you're winning the game yourself as opposed to just being there.
It's ironically similar to how ADC feels from time to time but worse.
It's ironically similar to how ADC feels from time to time but worse.
Orochinagis
Member
Ouroboros Shivana skin pls
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Did they scrap the bonuses thing for her
Good
Still a shitty passive. If that number stays static(5) then the most she will get is like 20 armor/mr.
as a shyv main nah.
Orochinagis
Member
I wonder if that bonus against dragons applies to an enemy shyvana or Sol
burden of doing all the vision control game is a thing that's lame cos it's not interesting or complicated enough, it feels like busywork and it's not very engaging, as well as lack of the "glory" of killing are probably the main reasons ppl don't like to support, but the role itself is fine
honestly support is probably the healthiest position in the game, not perfect by any means but it's fine
honestly support is probably the healthiest position in the game, not perfect by any means but it's fine
That'd be absolutely disgusting. Also couldn't you just walk into the middle of a 5 man team fight and just spam place your sightstone to get like 750 gold?
Orochinagis
Member
Remember where the blue trinket have the same vision as green ward? everyone abused it except the support
Stone Ocean
Member
It's basically the same passive she has now but it scales if her team gets dragons.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yeah idk about the scaling stuff
The most she will get is 20-40 in a game
If the damage bonus to dragons procs from Smite itd be an interesting passive
pretty much.
Sr Kitsune
Member
There was a mistake in the teams:
Team Fire is LCK, NA, and IWC.
Team Ice is EU, LPL, and LMS.
Much more balanced, lol.
Stone Ocean
Member
It doeees
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Interesting
that sounds like a nightmare lol
I still think itemization is the best way to make supporting more interesting. Items that help with roaming (either by improving roaming or offering some protection to the ADC while the support is away) would be neat to fool around with in testing. Giving items like sheen, hex tech revolver, haunting guise, and others some support oriented upgrades would be really cool.
Support specific runes might be interesting.
Something else I'd like to see is matches having an MVP on both sides. Even when a support does super well with a ridiculous kill participation, etc. the numbers that stand out are kills, damage dealt, etc. But if there was an explicit MVP there'd be chances to really highlight the supports. The system is essentially in place thanks to the match grading, may as well take the extra step.
Support specific runes might be interesting.
Something else I'd like to see is matches having an MVP on both sides. Even when a support does super well with a ridiculous kill participation, etc. the numbers that stand out are kills, damage dealt, etc. But if there was an explicit MVP there'd be chances to really highlight the supports. The system is essentially in place thanks to the match grading, may as well take the extra step.
Wolf Akela
Member
CotC is pretty bonkers on Vi too.
Don't get me started on ducking vi.
She has carried a lot of teams I played against last week. She is a very popular pick atm in low Elo. Nobody cares to ban her because she hasn't been super strong last meta. Now she gets a crazy shield just for ulting or Qing an enemy so she actually survives for diving
yeah, that's true
supports get super screwed by the rating system also, at least that's what my main support friend tells me
i'll get S- playing taliyah and going like 6/4/9 and he'll get A if he goes 0/2/17 or something
about items, i think support items are pretty interesting in general. i like the idea of having a utility stat that boosts your buffs, shields and cc, i think it could also be a good way to like have different items mid for like assassins and mages and stuff.
tho they kind of do that stuff with athene's already, so idk
Give a tangible way for Supports to feel good that only they have real access to, since a lot of normal "feel good" things for the rest of the team (going Legendary, getting Penta Kills ect), while not totally impossible for a support to do, are clearly not designed for them and usually advised against (cause let's be real, you'd rather your carry have those kills instead).
The most obvious way to do that would be via assists since that definitely leans towars support territory and would have the added benefit of encouraging team play in general, but I'm not really sure of the best way to implement something like that. Support items are in a decent spot I think, but when the game is designed around getting the most kills and you design a role (and a lot of champs for that role) specifically for not getting (many) kills, the role is going to be unpopular as a result.
The most obvious way to do that would be via assists since that definitely leans towars support territory and would have the added benefit of encouraging team play in general, but I'm not really sure of the best way to implement something like that. Support items are in a decent spot I think, but when the game is designed around getting the most kills and you design a role (and a lot of champs for that role) specifically for not getting (many) kills, the role is going to be unpopular as a result.
about two months late but i finally understood this joke lol
at the expense of dmg, maybe, yeah
I don't get itabout two months late but i finally understood this joke lol
at the expense of dmg, maybe, yeah
SenorArdilla
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Ekko is a time traveler.
but then what's the point of panel 2 and 3
Orochinagis
Member
I think supports can get and S ranking easily on early and mid game but the more the match last the more assists and wards placed you need to do, and if you die more than 3 times say goodbye to S ranking
BreezyLimbo
Banned
league comics now a days suck
back in my day they were funny
back in my day they were funny
Orochinagis
Member
My two most played champions that are not named irelia have the highest winrate in their lanes now, top naut and corki mid. If naut doesnt get nerfed or the cotc mastery doesn't get nerfed, he will be perma banned all season
Don't worry, they'll nerf Naut...and then they'll nerf CotC...and then you'll never have to worry about Naut being banned.
That's weird. I have no issues getting S- or better on supports. I get them all the time. It's really unfortunate for supports that they don't get recognized. There's games where my support or the opposing support clearly carried the fuck out of their team but there's zero recognition.
The shield boosts are nice items for sure, and probably long overdue, but I'm thinking stuff like a LoL equivalent of force staff, reworking Ohmwrecker to make it a support item for roamers (since many good roaming supports don't have the necessary early or mid game defensive stats from items to safely tower dive) and items that facilitate farming for ADCs under tower in the mid-game so the support can more easily roam.
killatopak
Gold Member
Renek with Colossus is amazeballs. I also build locket out of anyone now. Very cheap and has a 300-600 shield.
Wolf Akela
Member
BreezyLimbo
Banned
killatopak
Gold Member
is it me or is vayne a bit popular lately.
i agree that cool items are cool
p) but don't think that's a special issue with supportsWolf Akela
Member
I see two Vaynes these days:
- BoRK/PD/W Vaynes = guaranteed feed
- Shiv/IE/Q = starts 5/0 ez
killatopak
Gold Member
I mostly see the shiv one which ironically almost always lose. I mostly attribute it to the supports though. Colossus is just too much in all stages of the game.