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League of Legends |OT12| No more Lyte, just darkness.
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Graves is great for learning how to kite in the jungle because of how his autos work.
<3 yes!!!
assassin rework coming in preseason: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/Tnfw1WW6-next-class-update-the-assassins
main ideas are:
- adding counterplay
- differentiating assassins
- giving them more tools to contribute to their team than just oneshotting squishies
- less reworks, more focused (velkoz as example of an unsucessful rework)
- both ap and ad assassins
- talon almost guaranteed
- zed changes will be small if any
- targeting primary assassins (so probably not ahri, nidalee, i guess)
hope they don't take the fun out of leblanc
main ideas are:
- adding counterplay
- differentiating assassins
- giving them more tools to contribute to their team than just oneshotting squishies
- less reworks, more focused (velkoz as example of an unsucessful rework)
- both ap and ad assassins
- talon almost guaranteed
- zed changes will be small if any
- targeting primary assassins (so probably not ahri, nidalee, i guess)
hope they don't take the fun out of leblanc
Sounds good.
SenorArdilla
Member
Fighting Rengar in a bush is hilarious. He just leaps everywhere.
Black-Wind
Member
Thoughts in bold.
Orochinagis
Member
I just care about Sona changes, I heard her changes will be in PBE again
like i said, i wish they embrace something closer to a "trickster" class so that dmg stops being the only way an assassin contributes to their team
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assassin ekko is fine, probably weak since he got like a billion backhanded nerfs aimed at tank ekko but his design isn't necessarily bad
ekko's issues have nothing to do with him being an assassin and having cc, they're 100% rito being dumb and wanting to support his tank build
if they had just set given him regular assassin scaling ekko would've been fine
Black-Wind
Member
I think that the main reason tank Ekko became a thing was because people noticed that you had CC out the ass as well as mobility and decent dmg so "why not?". I don't really think an assassin should be able to stun a group of people, get a shield and slip-n-slide their ass away.
But that's just me though. My hatred of assassins knows no end and I find it laughable that people don't bother trying to counter them more often with tanks seeing how they're basically a ticking time bomb when left alone to lane vs a Mage. So i guess I'm just strange.
because tanks are either the most braindead, mind numbing type of champ to play, incredibly broken, or both
That's most of the point of assassins though. That's why assassins who don't have a way out after they dive in historically haven't been as good. If an assassin is just going in getting a kill and dying then there isn't really much benefit to having one
Black-Wind
Member
Hey, the only tank I play is Sion (RiP Poppy
..). I feel like he's one of the most well designed tanks by a mile seeing as, ya know, his whole kit is skill shots and he's got sooo much diversity in what he can build.I will say that I tried Maokai and find him to be ... so uninteresting outside of a group setting. Not fun at all unless there's tons of people around you or you're laning against a Spammy ass Riven or something.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
that aint op.
beg to differ. vlad is stupid.
Vlad isn't op? u wot m8?
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
In mid lane no. Veigar is the king of that.
i mean, sure if you want, but tank akali was a thing and tank katarina was a thing also and they don't have shit for cc
reality is when a champion deals more damage than they should and is able to get away with building tanky then ppl will build them tanky
it's safer, more reliable and just stronger
also you're talking about ekko like he's leblanc or something
ekko as a squishy short ranged assassin needs to go deep and should be rewarded for doing so
his problem has never been he has too much cc lol
nah, vlad is op everywhere
CC was just icing on the cake. His CC isn't the most reliable, since you have to be really good at timing his Parallel Convergence in order to be good at it.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Infinite power.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
no fucking s.
You're dead wrong on this. His kit requires tankiness to fully unlock. Everything is delayed. His Q is delayed. His 3-hit passive is delayed. The passive on W benefits more from being to apply multiple AAs than it does from being strong through AP scaling. Being tanky makes his stun way easier to land. Damage on his ult requires that he be in the mix for 4 seconds, minimum. That's death for a squishy. His immediate burst isn't actually that good, but extend a few second more and it's amazing. Need tankiness for that. When maximizing Ekko's potential you're always better off getting multiple rotations of his abilities than a single, strong rotation.
It's not because he has CC. Everything is delayed and he benefits more from being durable than anything else. His total AP ratios across his passive and basic abilities are among the very top in the game but his AP builds are still crap and have gotten statistically worse. All his best items are still tank items.
Riot isn't supporting his tank build. It's the only fucking build that actually works within the constraints of his kit.
survey hinting at maybe rune system to be free in the future
tldr is:
- all runes are free for everyone
- you get cosmetic chests according to how much ip you spent on runes
- ppl that went really crazy about runes get a special icon and runelord volibear skin with a special chroma
- rp refunds for ppl that bought rune pages with rp
the way they make it sound is really good if it ever happens, runes are still gonna be kind of crap but it's a shitty leftover of a shitty system that should've gone the way of the rune combiner years ago
making the chests cosmetic only is interesting, since it's essentially making a weird ip -> rp conversation, but it also feels like a nice reward for tolerating the system for so long, and they also have their bases covered by offering rp refunds for ppl that bought rune pages with rp
would love to see this happen, i would rather see runes removed entirely but this is good enough
tankiness makes him broken. the whole "unlock his potential" talk is the same to me as saying that tryndamere required ap to unlock his full potential. it's an unintended way of playing the champion, it might be optimal or regular play might be weak but it existing is bad for the game and everyone playing it
i can agree that itemization kind of leaves champions like ekko in a weird spot since aside from zhonyas and abyssal he's left with nothing to protect himself but that might be one of the things the assassin rework is gonna bring (hope it's more successful than duskblade)
it's interesting to think that riot themselves branded him as belonging to the same class as yasuo and riven rather than leblanc or zed
maybe they plan on doing something for those champions too
tldr is:
- all runes are free for everyone
- you get cosmetic chests according to how much ip you spent on runes
- ppl that went really crazy about runes get a special icon and runelord volibear skin with a special chroma
- rp refunds for ppl that bought rune pages with rp
the way they make it sound is really good if it ever happens, runes are still gonna be kind of crap but it's a shitty leftover of a shitty system that should've gone the way of the rune combiner years ago
making the chests cosmetic only is interesting, since it's essentially making a weird ip -> rp conversation, but it also feels like a nice reward for tolerating the system for so long, and they also have their bases covered by offering rp refunds for ppl that bought rune pages with rp
would love to see this happen, i would rather see runes removed entirely but this is good enough
i get what u mean but i disagree that he's unplayable as ap since he's always had decent winrates midlane. not great, but neither does leblanc, yet she's more than playable. he's got movespeed for days, shields, spammable slows, his e dash, his ult and zhonyas if he needs tools to survive. let's not be hyperbolic about a champion that's always been ok, in fact faker played him as an ap assassin not a month ago
tankiness makes him broken. the whole "unlock his potential" talk is the same to me as saying that tryndamere required ap to unlock his full potential. it's an unintended way of playing the champion, it might be optimal or regular play might be weak but it existing is bad for the game and everyone playing it
i can agree that itemization kind of leaves champions like ekko in a weird spot since aside from zhonyas and abyssal he's left with nothing to protect himself but that might be one of the things the assassin rework is gonna bring (hope it's more successful than duskblade)
it's interesting to think that riot themselves branded him as belonging to the same class as yasuo and riven rather than leblanc or zed
maybe they plan on doing something for those champions too
Vincent Alexander
Member
Seriously. I need to stop playing support. My friend is a great jungler, but plays ADC when I go Support. And he is so bad at it.....soooo bad.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Oh man
I would get bank
I have 20 rune pages, hundreds of runes(That I've spent thousands upon thousands of IP), the majority of rune pages I brought with IP...
Bring it on. And bring on Dragon Master Swain too.
less than 50% kill participation, pls
Sounds great. I like the customization part and wouldn't like runes to be removed, but removing the barrier of entry for runes is great.
Brexit is crazy.
GBP tanking, so we can import cheap stuff from the UK? Time to check out more UK based sites.
When do the July Skin Sale start?
The fuck?
I have bene playing for 2 years and just spent my first £20 a month ago.
I might spend another £20 today though.
The fuck?
I have bene playing for 2 years and just spent my first £20 a month ago.
I might spend another £20 today though.