yeah i feel like taste went out the window a long time ago lol
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yeah i feel like taste went out the window a long time ago lol
Ziggs empowered auto with lich bane has always done absolutely disgusting damage, ziggs just isn't fun to play post q hitbox change
ziggs was never fun
Ziggs empowered auto with lich bane has always done absolutely disgusting damage, ziggs just isn't fun to play post q hitbox change
Yeah but I didn't know he did that much. Half the inhib/nexus health in 1 auto.
Gross
Ziggs empowered auto with lich bane has always done absolutely disgusting damage, ziggs just isn't fun to play post q hitbox change
Yeah in theory the bouncing is kinda neat but it just feels so unreliable in lane and is super frustrating to use
Don't post this while you have the Lux avatar.
Ziggs stall is not really what it used to be so I don't think he has a negative impact on games anymore. He is a very skill based zone/skill shot champion who I think is one of the most interesting at a range.
killatopak
Gold Member
He is one of the safest farmers in the game for sure. but his Q is pretty hard to land on moving champions, especially if they have mobility or are in his face. Lots of medium/small sized champs can actually walk right under his Q as it's bouncing.
He also has to first buy a mana item (used to be Athene's, now Morello I think still?), so there's that. He could never realistically buy Ryalis or Deathcap or Hourglass first after his mana cost increases way back when.
PhillipCostigan
Member
Why hasn't Kalista been buffed yet?
Fervor just got a buff this patch, I'd imagine they want to hold off buffing champs like Kalista/Lucian until the effects of Fervor can be seen.
The further away Ziggs is the harder it is for him to do damage because so much of it is baked into autos, and Q becomes less reliable. You actually do not want to pick Ziggs into long range heroes like Xerath or Vel'koz because he cannot really compete with them. He is also very weak to mobility and if it is an assassin he can't zone out of farm his safety is kind of void. Even stuff like Ekko is a good pick into Ziggs to be honest. Ziggs does not rank in the top fifteen on fewest deaths for mids, and his limited mobility and hard CC create vulnerabilities.
his minefield kinda stops that whole mobility thing though
Ghost is Bad
Banned
no it doesnt. minefield is poo.
Dreams-Visions
Member
yep, that's Ziggs. People forgot about him.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Minefield should be invisible to enemies
Yknow
Like real minefields
Yknow
Like real minefields
If a God exists, I'll take time to thank him right now that Breezy isn't on the design team :^).
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I would make it fun
Luxs laser? You wouldnt see it until you got hit by it.
I would also buff kalista back up.
This kinda stuff is how Morde ADC came into existence.
I mean, if Fervor is good other ADCs who are already better than Kalista will just push her out of botlane. It's not like she uses fervor better or worse than most ADCs. Her E scales with AD, but every ADC's abilities scale with AD.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I am vehemently against morde adc. Its a gimmick of gimmicks.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Ghost is Bad
Banned
yea but u can see techies stuff with a gem
invisible shit that cant be revealed is terrible design.
invisible shit that cant be revealed is terrible design.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
that would require kalista to be good first.
Dreams-Visions
Member
agreed 10000000%
MrCookiepants
Member
Karma no damage??
Karma has more than enough damage to 100-0 any squishy. Her Mantra Q (including detonation) has 785 base damage and 150% AP scaling. That's over 1000 damage at 300 AP. One of those, a W and maybe an extra Q and that person is dead.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
lolwut
it does 785 base dmg only if u hit both parts of it. its by far karmas worst mantra.
it does 785 base dmg only if u hit both parts of it. its by far karmas worst mantra.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I'm not saying you can't see Ziggs invisible minefield with a ward
wards would definitely reveal it
SenorArdilla
Member
It's less of a minefield and more like a pile of Legos.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
it'd be simple
no warning laser on her ult
all her spells reveal the area for 5 seconds after they've been cast(IE using her E, after it pops, that area will be lit for 5 seconds, or her Q/W will light a path)
MrCookiepants
Member
You know she has a point and click root to guarantee the full damage, luv?
Mantra Q is useless for support Karma, but coming from AP Karma it's probably the single strongest damage spell in the game.
Dreams-Visions
Member
warning laser does feel kinda troll.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
killatopak
Gold Member
What exaxtly are you looking for?
Panth is great in solo q. Very easy to kill stuff and ult is great for iniation and roam.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
the root doesnt guarantee anything lol. its not like leblancs chain where you have a slow to help you chase, you just have your e speed boost to try and stay in range. its essentially only really useful as an individual spell when mantrad because it gives you 20% of your hp back.
and no, ap karma is still pretty much based on mantra shield since her damage falls off massively.
what would u nerf for her to get all this vision?
no need to be condescending to each other, ppl -___-
nah i'm just curious what you'd do
honestly idk
kind of something that i play when i get autofilled top
i know the idea there is to just play easy tanks and get carried but my last few tank games have been a disaster and i just find them really boring
i used to play lizzy top a bunch and enjoy that a lot, and i used to play pantheon
so i'm guessing something along those, except i know lizzy top is kind of garbage and idk about pant
is quinn top still a thing? i love quinn lol
Ghost is Bad
Banned
i dont think that was ever a real thing
BreezyLimbo
Banned
why would I nerf anything
she's already an average champion. game balance isn't contingent on 'give and take' in order to add something to a champion, that's a toxic way of thinking.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
because its an invisible long ranged nuke. nobody wants that shit in their game.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
lux is weak as is
she needs all the help she can get
she needs all the help she can get
Ghost is Bad
Banned
from average to weak in just 1 post
not even true either lol. shes got a 51% winrate and a 14% playrate. thats not even close to average
Sr Kitsune
Member
Is it possible to re-roll 3 champions shards and get Camille before she's purchasable?
Dreams-Visions
Member
some of won't be satisfied until she can literally delete everyone all the time while spamming the cackle all game long as an additional and new passive ability.
I am one of those people.
The world can burn if Queen Lux gets to stand atop the ashes.