Dreams-Visions
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and her Program skin is so ugly. What the fuck happened there, Costy? lol
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League of Legends |OT12| No more Lyte, just darkness.
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and her Program skin is so ugly. What the fuck happened there, Costy? lol
I don't really agree at all I think you're more likely to get quality games in ranked so if you're a bronze player you may as well play with even teams. If you play a ton of games and you legitimately cannot get out then that's probably where you belong. Solo games may be complete fiestas but at least you are more likely to be in a competitive environment
Are release skins ever any good? There's dino Gnar which is amazing but I think that was the exception
thanks!
the biggest reason why i dislike talents tho is that they are individually designed, which sounds really cool in theory but is probably not that good in practice
meanwhile i think keystones are actually pretty interesting because they're the same for everyone. lux is pretty good with thunderlords cos she can proc it super easy with her passive, while someone like varus has to work a lot more for that proc and runs deathfire instead that makes more sense with his pokey style of gameplay
with keystones you fit champions under categories that define how they play, thunderlord champions will want to do quick trades, deathfire champions will want to just poke you out from a distance, stormraider is for machinegun mages, same with fervor, warlords, grasp, colossus, etc. they also come with a lot of requirements so if you're a mage support that wants to give out stronger shields you have to forget about the tankiness you get from the defensive tree
the cool thing about this is that it gives you a bit of customization and allows you to play your champion differently while also not asking of people to learn a billion new passives and shit. it doesn't allow you to meaningfully change your champion in the middle of a match but items already do that so adding yet another way for it is probably not necessary
this is all in theory, ofc, in real play keystones don't offer any customization because a myriad of reasons, from balance, general low number of keystones, generalized nature of some of their design (MASSIVE shield on cc, what kind of tank would pick anything else?), the wonky arrangement of offense and utility masteries, etc.
but the idea feels a lot sounder to me as a solution to the customization "problem"
runes are garbage and not worth talking about, if they just removed them and gave every mage 10% scaling cdr and 9 more mpen and shit the game would be exactly the same as it is right now
actual skin is not that ugly, just the splash art is very grotesque
i think the problem is that you can't expect league to "just be fun". if you want that you can play arams and ascension and shit and that's a pretty visceral "overwatch" style thing that you just play for a bit for fun and move on
for the actual summoner's rift ranked mode fo the game to be fun you have to put in the hours and that's just really daunting and frustrating to new players. if you don't have people that are as passionate about it as you are and that play at your same level then that's really disincouraging and it's very unlikely you'll get too far
riot seems to have given up on making this any better which is probably fair since honestly i can't even imagine how you convince someone to read and think critically about the game and watch streams and play to learn, not to win and all that stuff
they could and should be doing a better job at it but in the end the way you have fun with summoner's rift is grinding a lot of unfun stuff until you just 'get it'
and it helps a ton to have friends that are grinding through it with you
it's on and off
kled was great, jhin and kindred were pretty good, but then illaoi, taliyah, ekko, bard, azir, there's some really recent boring launch skins
Launch skins are notoriously shit.
I know my execution is still subpar, but I believe an even bigger issue is that I favor support as my primary role, which means I can't carry the team by myself even if I tried (unless I began playing more Zyra, I guess). I can tell I've gotten a lot better at making the right calls while supporting, but the best I can do is try and help feed my carries, and that requires them to actually take advantage of my good plays whenever I actually manage to make one.
Even if I happen to be a bronze or low-silver level player, the thing isn't my rank as much as it is having to bear with games were people feed like mad or flame each other as the whole team comes crashing down. What I want when playing a match of LoL is to play a good game, and feeders, trolls, afk players and flamers showing up every other game make me wish I'd have just done something else rather than sitting down to play a 20-minute game of LoL.
This is basically a myth.
A gold support player would consistently win games in bronze. A diamond support player would average like 1 death per 20 games in bronze, and probably would hardly drop any games.
Yeah with support itemization the role is in a great spot right now. I'm pretty sure most really low elo players don't even build redemption (anecdotal) so properly using that broken ass item alone can give you a massive leg up on the enemy team. There are so many more ways to carry than just damage so if you like supporting just find some educational support streamers or youtubers and skim through their stuff and learn
Ghost is Bad
Banned
if ur good at support ull blast through bronze and silver, especially since u can singlehandedly dominate the two dumb fucks bot and render them incapable of contributing to the game.
Dreams-Visions
Member
I have to disagree, honestly.
I find the in-game model to be absolutely hideous. Something about the color palette and the way the hips are attached to the torso. It's just amazing in its awfulness. It's acutely bad to my eyes and I can't imagine who the audience is that would buy it.
While as others mentioned most launch skins are pretty mediocre, Gnar, Taliyah, Jhin, and Kled all had very acceptable launch skins. At worst, you'd call them a bit boring, but certainly not an eyesore. And Ivern's launch skin was -godtier-.
This Camille skin tho? I mean...look at it.
woof.
the scoreboard autosort is a cool addition to the game but i thought it had some algorithm or something, why did this take like 2 years when it was this dumb
also i just got adc three times in a row
sigh
also i just got adc three times in a row
sigh
yea it's ok if u don't like it, i don't find it near as bad as taliyah's but to each their ownI have to disagree, honestly.
I find the in-game model to be absolutely hideous. Something about the color palette and the way the hips are attached to the torso. It's just amazing in its awfulness. It's acutely bad to my eyes and I can't imagine who the audience is that would buy it.
While as others mentioned most launch skins are pretty mediocre, Gnar, Taliyah, Jhin, and Kled all had very acceptable launch skins. At worst, you'd call them a bit boring, but certainly not an eyesore. And Ivern's launch skin was -godtier-.
This Camille skin tho? I mean...look at it.
woof.
she cannot
4 times adc in a row, fortunately this last game person got autofilled into mid and traded me lol
so far lost with varus, tristana and corki
bought jhin, might as well buy a real adc if matchmaking is gonna be so sucky
at least i got someone banned for calling everyone retards. that's always nice, that feeling that the banning system works really well and that no matter how much they threaten you, if you're normal you'll never get banned
so far lost with varus, tristana and corki
bought jhin, might as well buy a real adc if matchmaking is gonna be so sucky
at least i got someone banned for calling everyone retards. that's always nice, that feeling that the banning system works really well and that no matter how much they threaten you, if you're normal you'll never get banned
Orochinagis
Member
This Camille skin tho? I mean...look at it.
woof.
That skin have the first recall I really dislike , found it creepy and hideous I dunno why
wow camille is something else
hard to believe riot keeps releasing champions this shitty to play against
there's absolutely no fun in playing against a champion that has 100% of control over the lane. it's what's annoying about yasuo, kalista, fiora, lucian, all these assholes no one likes playing against
tho it's not THAT surprising considering the direction they pushed katarina towards (and leblanc to an extent)
hard to believe riot keeps releasing champions this shitty to play against
there's absolutely no fun in playing against a champion that has 100% of control over the lane. it's what's annoying about yasuo, kalista, fiora, lucian, all these assholes no one likes playing against
tho it's not THAT surprising considering the direction they pushed katarina towards (and leblanc to an extent)
Dreams-Visions
Member
she really is pretty abusive. that shield and that second q...whewlad .
who trades well against her? I'm pretty sure all of my regular tops get dumpstered by her. (Garen, Jayce, Gnar, Darius, Annie).
nope
Ghost is Bad
Banned
jax at 6 items lel
Orochinagis
Member
Bah, got placed in Bronze II even after being Silver IV and got 7 victories straight on my placements, I dont think I have the patience to climb to silver again compared to my friend who lost 4 and got placed Silver V (he was silver IV like me)
BreezyLimbo
Banned
told you she'd be borderline broken
but nooo breezy, your talent system would ruin everything
but nooo breezy, your talent system would ruin everything
everything is alreayd ruined
Sr Kitsune
Member
There is no way to get out of Camille's ult if you were her target, you need to disable it by killing Camille or pushing her out.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
BreezyLimbo
Banned
its the amount of chase she has access to and her eventual escape(especially in the jungle)
not to mention the MS steroids she gets from Q. Build a triforce on her and she's fucking dangerous
She can probably be built tank after that and still be as strong
not to mention the MS steroids she gets from Q. Build a triforce on her and she's fucking dangerous
She can probably be built tank after that and still be as strong
Sr Kitsune
Member
BreezyLimbo
Banned
don't insult swain pls
edit-actually swain would hilariously probably counter her ult if only because 3 of his skills are aoe, and his W will most likely hit her in it, and she has last through his E+Q+R
Ekko's release skin was awesome.
Stone Ocean
Member
Fiora and Jayce should shit on her. If you can CC her while her second Q is winding up then her damage disappears.
Mecha Kha'zix was great.
Dodges in placements don't count as a loss since at least a year ago. You might get punished by getting a bit worse mmr or something but it's not a big deal if it's a troll game.
Dreams-Visions
Member
ah. so try to save jayce knockback for when she's looking for her second Q. ok.
Fiora I can see if you have your ult available.
PhillipCostigan
Member
Fiora shits on her, Jayce does really well, Poppy does really well, Renekton does really well. Jax probably does really well considering dodge.
idk, I played her and played against her and while he's strong in lane and at picking off targets, she's borderline useless in any sort of a teamfight. I dominated my lane in a game yesterday but the enemy Braum cockblocked me so hard in fights.
She's meant to fuck people up 1 v 1, but sucks when ganged up on. People just suck at playing against her right now.
idk, I played her and played against her and while he's strong in lane and at picking off targets, she's borderline useless in any sort of a teamfight. I dominated my lane in a game yesterday but the enemy Braum cockblocked me so hard in fights.
She's meant to fuck people up 1 v 1, but sucks when ganged up on. People just suck at playing against her right now.
Dreams-Visions
Member
that's nice but I only play one of those. I imagine Jayce is cool with a lead. Otherwise that shield is too much to cut through. his combo won't be nearly enough damage when she can heal herself along the way.
we'll see. I haven't played the matchup yet.
killatopak
Gold Member
Marin back at LCK. He's playing for afreeca. I'd watch their games just for him. I'm still very impressed by his Rumble.
PhillipCostigan
Member
trade around it. It's on a 20 second cooldown at early levels so you should be able to bait it out and trade back, or trade while it's on cooldown. She can also only heal for at most 10% of her max health if she hits you with the outer section of the W which Jayce should be able to avoid by Qing in or spacing with your range.
It's also only a physical shield against Jayce so your hammer E and W won't be affected by it.
Dreams-Visions
Member
roger that. I look forward to trying it out.
Also,
Wanna hook a brotha up with some blue essence tho? I got 7 hungry for Mastery 6 and one looking for Mastery 7.
Would give me a nice, round 10 champs at Mastery 6 and 3 at Mastery 7. I can only imagine how many would be at 7 right now if I could have leveled them to 6 months and months ago when they got to 6.
Stone Ocean
Member
Shield is brief and the only way she's getting it vs you without blowing her E is if you get the jump on her. She has no answer to your poke besides all-inning and for that you have your hammer E.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Gotcha. Yea, I need to try a lane against her.
PhillipCostigan
Member
the thing to keep in mind is that she'll clap you in extended trades, but Jayce should be able to out-trade her in short bursts. Just don't get baited into a more drawn out fight where she can ramp up Fervor and Battle Trance, and potentially get 2 Q rotations and maybe 2 E rotations if it's being maxed second (which it should be)
it's the same with Renekton. Build up your fury and Dash - stun - Q - leave. You win the trade, especially if you stun her before she gets her basic attack off, and you should win in ult vs ult scenarios thanks to your constant Fury generation.
Renekton is really good now btw
Dreams-Visions
Member
roger that. thanks for the insight, guys!
edit: question about hextech crafting. I have some skins that I already own that I think can help me do some masteries, but I don't understand how to use them. For example, I have an Officer Caitlyn skin shard and I have a Caitlyn that can use a permanent skin to unlock the next mastery. But because I own the skin already, it appears that I can't upgrade the skin shard to a permanent skin for the purposes of Mastery usage. Is that correct or am I doing something wrong?
edit: question about hextech crafting. I have some skins that I already own that I think can help me do some masteries, but I don't understand how to use them. For example, I have an Officer Caitlyn skin shard and I have a Caitlyn that can use a permanent skin to unlock the next mastery. But because I own the skin already, it appears that I can't upgrade the skin shard to a permanent skin for the purposes of Mastery usage. Is that correct or am I doing something wrong?
Stone Ocean
Member
Skins are useless for mastery. Only champion shards and blue essence works
killatopak
Gold Member
blue essence is for the masteries and acquired from champion shards. Orange essence on the other hand is from the skin shards.
Both are entirely exclusive to one another so you cannot get a champion/mastery from orange essence/skin shards or get a skin using blue essence/champion shards.