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[zkylon]

i really wish camille had a knockup instead of a stun, similar to azir

her particle effects are so damn noisy it's really hard to tell when you got stunned

i really dislike playing against this champion, i had a really fun 1v2 juke fest inside of her ult with leblanc but outside of her ult i don't like her at all

also if anyone was wondering, you can't w back outside her ult with leblanc, it just snaps you to the ult border ;_;

 

[Stone Ocean]

oooo locket. I forgot that item exists. tyvm. so Abyssal just isn't good on Maokai?

Leave that stuff for URF

 

[faridmon]

Also, I need some late-game Maokai pointers. Anyone play him much?

I keep leading the team in damage while being the tank but have lost all 3 matches I've played with him.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2372447802/42941535?tab=stats

For example. I picked up a late abyssal because I wanted more MR but couldn't justify an Spirit Visage, but I can't seem to do enough to help the team win. I try to keep the ult up around teammates, but the damage reduction never seems to be enough to keep said teammates alive. I often find myself alone with adc's and mid's dead because I simply couldn't peel for them enough.

Any insight would be appreciated.

I play him very often, (about win rate of 40% to be fair which is not good) but my problem with Maokai is exacly the opposite of yours. My early game sucks and can't farm due to other top laners being aggressive without needing mana, but my late game is pretty good and tend to win games even if I am behind kills and CS.

your build is sort of wrong. Maokai have a healthy scaling when it comes to Def/HP and what you need (and make it a priority) is 40% CD and Mana. He is very Mana intensive champ and you will need lots of it. His cooldown is long and you need to keep spamming abilities for CC and for your passive to be useful.

What I do is build Tank on him 100% unless I am ahead by far and get 1 AP/tank item. So for Def, mana and CD you need Frozen Heart and Spirit Visage for MR and take better advantage of your Passive. The rest is situational. Ruindon against bruisers/ fed adc and Warmog with champs who have high dpc and burst. Abyssal is not helpful really because you have Warmog for HP and you can get Rod of Ages for AP which also have Mana and HP scaling.

The way you play is also situational and dependent on the team you have. If you have a supp who can peel, use your W for engaging and targeting. You are the tank so you need to engage and point out the squishy ones, luckily the range of that is pretty good, and you can normally land an ADC simply by just walking to the group of enemy you are facing. Your Ult is very powerful and your teammates need to take advantage of that and burst the other team to hell, but that needs a coordination more than anything.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Oh and if your support doesn't have Redemption 36 minutes in you should probably get that.

 

[faridmon]

and don't get Abyssal.... In fact don't get any AP item except for ROA.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

also if anyone was wondering, you can't w back outside her ult with leblanc, it just snaps you to the ult border ;_;

yes, of course lol. You are locked in no matter what. This was in every piece of communication around her. Why would Leblanc be any different? lol

 

[BreezyLimbo]

yes, of course lol. You are locked in no matter what. This was in every piece of communication around her. Why would Leblanc be any different? lol

zhongyas

bam camille ruined 4ever

 

[Hydrophobic]

zhongyas

bam camille ruined 4ever

ADCs and AD assassins are notorious for building Zhonyas, after all.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

zhongyas

bam camille ruined 4ever

zhonyas doesn't allow you to leave the area

what are you contributing to this discussion

 

[zkylon]

yes, of course lol. You are locked in no matter what. This was in every piece of communication around her. Why would Leblanc be any different? lol

just commenting on that cos it's a special case i wasn't sure how it'd work

you know, since people kept asking if you could get out with ekko ult, or tp, or whatever?

zhongyas

bam camille ruined 4ever

yeah zhonyas+ghost and some footwork did the job in that 1v2 vs fizz and camille

it takes a lot of tools to survive that shit

zhonyas doesn't allow you to leave the area

what are you contributing to this discussion

?

zhonyas is the best counter to her ult cos it might be the only thing that lets you survive long enough for ur team to bail you out

 

[Stone Ocean]

You can't even leave if a Tahm eats you out of it, they were pretty specific with the whole "nothing can get you out besides pushing Camille out of the ring" thing

 

[BreezyLimbo]

zhonyas doesn't allow you to leave the area

what are you contributing to this discussion

it allows you to mitigate half it's duration silly costy

 

[PhillipCostigan]

just commenting on that cos it's a special case i wasn't sure how it'd work

you know, since people kept asking if you could get out with ekko ult, or tp, or whatever?
?

zhonyas is the best counter to her ult cos it might be the only thing that lets you survive long enough for ur team to bail you out

when it says there's no way to leave there's no way to leave

and we were talking about if you can leave it and breezy suddenly brings up zhonya's.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

when it says there's no way to leave there's no way to leave

and we were talking about if you can leave it and breezy suddenly brings up zhonya's.

I'm talking about mitigating the 'leave' part of her ult

actually

what's the interaction with Panths ult? Does he still jump up into the air

 

[Stone Ocean]

He probably can jump and fall in the same place

 

[BreezyLimbo]

He probably can jump and fall in the same place

hmmm

how about shen and TF

how does it calculate where the wall 'stops' them? the direction of their TP?

These are things I need to know..if only there was some sort of sandbox feature to test this..

 

[kayos90]

What happens when you get kalista ulted ?

 

[zkylon]

I'm talking about mitigating the 'leave' part of her ult

.

costy pls

 

[Stone Ocean]

What happens when you get kalista ulted ?

Probably the same as Tahm W, you get pulled but when you get out you're sent back to the ring.

Which sounds visually hilarious

 

[kayos90]

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costy pls

In his defense the topic was about leaving and then breezy comes in with a different topic altogether. As a rhetoric major that's a bit grating.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

In his defense the topic was about leaving and then breezy comes in with a different topic altogether. As a rhetoric major that's a bit grating.

That depends how you look at it

We know camilles ult won't let you leave

So naturally the conversation should be about mitigating the ultimate.

 

[kayos90]

That depends how you look at it

We know camilles ult won't let you leave

So naturally the conversation should be about mitigating the ultimate.

While that my be understood but that is not what you addressed. You just said zhonyas in a topic about leaving. My point stil stands.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

While that my be understood but that is not what you addressed. You just said zhonyas in a topic about leaving. My point stil stands.

And because we know you can't leave, naturally the topic is about mitigation, since zky was also talking about juking Camille within her ult and thus is inclusive of ways to avoid camille.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

And because we know you can't leave, naturally the topic is about mitigation, since zky was also talking about juking Camille within her ult and thus is inclusive of ways to avoid camille.

not to keep arguing semantics but the conversation was

"you can't go back outside with this mechanic"

"well yeah you can't go outside with anything"

"zhonya's"

????

 

[BreezyLimbo]

not to keep arguing semantics but the conversation was

"you can't go back outside with this mechanic"

"well yeah you can't go outside with anything"

"zhonya's"

????

because naturally in a discussion on how to 'beat' camilles ult

things will veer towards things to avoid it's duration

this is how discussions works, they flow and change.

 

[zkylon]

i really want to try that faker ahri build

 

[SenorArdilla]

Camille builds Triforce into tank?

 

[Stone Ocean]

i really want to try that faker ahri build

Which Ahri build?

Camille builds Triforce into tank?

Triforce into Tiamat item into tank seems to be the way to go for now

 

[zkylon]

Which Ahri build?

rocketpack into lich bane

 

[Stone Ocean]

rocketpack into lich bane

That sounds awful lol

 

[Talents]

Ayy EU LCS is moving to bo3.
http://eu.lolesports.com/en/articles/eu-lcs-2017-format

 

[Quonny]

but riot hates eu

 

[Stone Ocean]

but riot hates eu

And that's why NA is moving to BO5

KappaRoss

 

[subtles]

Do we have a date for snowdown?

 

[Sr Kitsune]

Ayy EU LCS is moving to bo3.
http://eu.lolesports.com/en/articles/eu-lcs-2017-format

I like how relegation is going to work now(If I read it correctly, it's the same for NA). I guess this helps a bit the teams that were complaining about relegations, without removing relegation altogether.

Also:

we are planning to introduce new Esports related digital goods in 2017

Hype?

 

[Envelope]

double elimination is the worst competitive bracket type ever and i hate that every FGC tourney uses it, zzzz don't bring it to leeg riot

 

[BreezyLimbo]

double elimination is great

having the losers be able to make a come back and face the winning team is great

 

[Talents]

What do you guys think the reward for getting challenger will be this season (if there is one)? Do you think they'd do another jacket or something else, not really sure what item of clothing they could really do though...

 

[zkylon]

it's a pity that with the move to bo3 all euros will be confused out of their minds by the lack of the traditional european ties :^)

That sounds awful lol

yeah i'm not sure about it either but those are two really fun items to use so imma try it

i only did it once but we had a feeding irelia so the game kind of spiraled out of control before i could really do much with it

 

[Stone Ocean]

What do you guys think the reward for getting challenger will be this season (if there is one)? Do you think they'd do another jacket or something else, not really sure what item of clothing they could really do though...

Challenjour pants to go with the jacket

 

[Leezard]

Challenjour pants to go with the jacket

literally carry pants

 

[zkylon]

how about an ahri cosplay outfit

i would like to see flame wearing that

 

[Newt]

Do you guys think the NA players who went to the LAN server and took up all the top spots will still get the jackets?

 

[Leezard]

Placements done. Got kinda unlucky with a few teams, but Plat 2 after 4-6 should be all right.

Do you guys think the NA players who went to the LAN server and took up all the top spots will still get the jackets?

Yes.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Do you guys think the NA players who went to the LAN server and took up all the top spots will still get the jackets?

I hope not

costy do you know if Rito will bring down the hammer of pain against them?

 

[Sr Kitsune]

Do you guys think the NA players who went to the LAN server and took up all the top spots will still get the jackets?

Who knows.

Last we heard from Rito LAN was that they were looking into the issue and would tell more once they had a fair solution.

(With people saying what was there to look into?, just deny rewards if you're not resident of a LAN country, then again they could just get a LAN address...

Spoiler

[psss call me, I may or may not keep the jacket]

)

 

[Leezard]

So the Snowdown site is up.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/special-event/gather-round-snowdown

There's tons of info and stuff.

And a nice video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpOeyg3wECs

 

[zkylon]

is there anything crafting that's free?

 

[23qwerty]

Ooh snow skin for summoners rift

 

[Leezard]

is there anything crafting that's free?

From what I gather, probably not unless you get lucky and get Poro King shards from your normals hextech chests (now winter chests). Well, you get a poro snax thingie from each chest you open, even winter chests, so you might be able to get an icon for free too.

I might be wrong since there's a lot of info to digest though.