Premades have a higher tendency to gank/roam to each other's lanes, in my experience. An opposing jungler with either of his premades in the bot lane will significantly increase the likelihood of the jungler camping bot lane for instance. As far my experience goes it's a very good indicator of the other team's landing phase strategy.
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Premades have a higher tendency to gank/roam to each other's lanes, in my experience. An opposing jungler with either of his premades in the bot lane will significantly increase the likelihood of the jungler camping bot lane for instance. As far my experience goes it's a very good indicator of the other team's landing phase strategy.
Black-Wind
Member
Well, most of the champs you listed are Juggernauts designed to dish out tons of dmg if they get a lead (Susan just by farming the game out becomes a raid boss ...)
A good, fed adc and support who can kite and position well makes a fed juggernaut have blue balls. And a bot lane that's behind just ... becomes a non-factor after laning phase. It reasults in them trying to stay AWAY from the team a lot of the time cause they wanna farm to get to their power spike ... making it so that the enemy bot can just wonder around, causing havoc around the map OR the enemy JG/ bot/ Assassin just farms on them as they over extend in an attempt to catch up.
Like, I just had a game lost where the Ashe ADC had half the CS of the Quinn ADC and died a few times in lane (How? IDK ... she out ranges her so hard, IDK how she couldn't at least farm well). Their team had a Lux and Morg so me getting fed as Illaoi and the mid Viegar couldn't seem to carry things (I could kill someone ... if I could get to them ... and morg wasn't there to fuck things up with Spell shield and snares. And I couldn't do shit to Quinn unless someone could lock her down). Our Mummy Jg who never seemed to use Ult sure didn't help matters.
Maybe that's how JGs carry? By getting bot ahead? Cause a good bot lane seems to make or break a team.
Anyway, lost a game where the JG forgot Smite AND the Yas went 0/12, allowing their Kayle mid to rotate top and fuck me. I hate Yas and I never got how JGs forget smite -_-
But you can't anymore afaik? Riot removed that from the API
Unless there's a site that automatically checks if people are playing with people they've played with frequently or something
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yup, this is the main reason why it's good to know. Likewise, if they're on your team, and they're not communicating to you, then you know it's because they're talking with each other and to follow their lead of sorts.
I mean..it's just stupid that Riot doesn't let you see it. People in League are going to continue being toxic with or without Riots help. League just has a toxic community, like the sky is blue, people will rage. Riot taking out things to coddle their playerbase is only a stopgap that will degrade over time.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lord+Newt
By looking at this I can see Newt plays with Nekofrog. There's a "recently played with" tab. It's really not that hard to look at the last couple games and be like 'hmmmm obviously they got matched up randomly 6 times!'
Until Riot blocks the names of people you play with, it's easy to see who's in a group. And more times than not, alot of time party queues use the same club, which is visible to everyone.
Taric may be my new spirit animal. Probably going to be my first lvl 7 too. His ult combos really well with several champs who like to dive in and the delay actually gives them a chance to charge. So far Kat, Rengar, Malphite, Vi, Hec and Yi have felt like the really good ones.
Ironically I feel like it's the really "good" games- where both teams played well and had a decent shot of winning right up until the end, is when more people on my team tend to get S than not. There's been a few stomp games where 2 or even 3 people get an S but that usually means someone else on the team got less gold/kills/time to do stuff than they should and get locked out.
Most I ever had was 4 ppl tho.
Ironically I feel like it's the really "good" games- where both teams played well and had a decent shot of winning right up until the end, is when more people on my team tend to get S than not. There's been a few stomp games where 2 or even 3 people get an S but that usually means someone else on the team got less gold/kills/time to do stuff than they should and get locked out.
Most I ever had was 4 ppl tho.
eh at the very least you can't fault riot for trying
like i totally see the premade or exposed mmr shit being used in a toxic way, as everything else in the game has
and it kind of invites doubt into their matchmaking, which i guess it's something they're comfortable with, but u know, transparency is nice because you realize it's not rito that's matching u with bad teammates but you just being bad. it's not gonna stop you from being an asshole but it does give you less ammunition, even if you're still gonna use it cos you suck as a person
and honestly i could see rito changing their mind and going in that direction. the boosted emblems are kind of proof that rito maybe doesn't care so much about that stuff anymore, maybe now that the lyte era is over there's gonna be less focus on all of that
idk if that ends up being good or bad for the game
like i totally see the premade or exposed mmr shit being used in a toxic way, as everything else in the game has
and it kind of invites doubt into their matchmaking, which i guess it's something they're comfortable with, but u know, transparency is nice because you realize it's not rito that's matching u with bad teammates but you just being bad. it's not gonna stop you from being an asshole but it does give you less ammunition, even if you're still gonna use it cos you suck as a person
and honestly i could see rito changing their mind and going in that direction. the boosted emblems are kind of proof that rito maybe doesn't care so much about that stuff anymore, maybe now that the lyte era is over there's gonna be less focus on all of that
idk if that ends up being good or bad for the game
Stone Ocean
Member
Exposed MMR will be as toxic as exposed ranked divisions are.
Same for premades, if Riot wants solo players to play with them then its only fair to know where you stand in a team.
Same for premades, if Riot wants solo players to play with them then its only fair to know where you stand in a team.
MrCookiepants
Member
I'm a fan of the new Fiora, but I have the sudden urge to play pre-rework Fiora. That ultimate was so dumb. I loved it.
Anyone else feel this way with a champion that's been changed over the years?
Anyone else feel this way with a champion that's been changed over the years?
sometimes i feel like playing old quinn even if new quinn is basically the same but much better
idk i just liked pecking ppl
also i miss dfg
MrCookiepants
Member
Yeah old Quinn was a lot of fun. I liked the instant burst of speed and execute damage on the second active.
Only one I don't miss at all is old Graves. I feel like that's the one update that changed a shitload but didn't lose anything that made the champion fun.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
it's happening
I'm sorry but Zarya is best girl
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
BreezyLimbo
Banned
zkylon you act like I haven't seen everything
winky face
winky face
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Now get rid of those ski goggles, they do nothing.
Gangplank all the time. The barrels aren't fun to play with or to play against compared to old GP. Taric too. Most the mage reworks? Zilean especially.
cheers love
BreezyLimbo
Banned
the cavalry is here
I dislike the barrels as well, too micromanagement-sim for me. I guess it's part of Riots 'Fun to play against philosophy' which I mean, taking down his barrel before it blows up is nice, but playing as him it's just boring.
I dislike the barrels as well, too micromanagement-sim for me. I guess it's part of Riots 'Fun to play against philosophy' which I mean, taking down his barrel before it blows up is nice, but playing as him it's just boring.
Peanut Butter
Member
mcz117chief
Member
That happened to me once since they added the new draft lobby. If a draft lobby is disbanded (player left, failed to ban, failed to pick) the runes and masteries stay like you picked them in the lobby, however, the spells for some reason revert back to what they were in your last game. So what happened me to was that I forgot to reset my spells for the 3rd or 4th time the lobby got reset and I am in a game with exhaust as a jungler which means I am done. And that is the most frustrating shit ever in League of Legends, knowing you are borderline useless for the entirely of the match.
yea it can happen.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I've had it happen. In a normal game though. It's the worst, especially since they don't let you buy jungling items(Which is stupid as). It definitely is the worst feeling.
mcz117chief
Member
Speak of the devil, guys 
Not all 5 but 4 is still pretty awesome, in my recent memory I really can't remember seeing that.
inb4 "omg noob picks, play champs which need skill"
Not all 5 but 4 is still pretty awesome, in my recent memory I really can't remember seeing that.
inb4 "omg noob picks, play champs which need skill"
kidding of course!
or am I?
Actually come to think of it, I hate most Riot reworks. I miss old Kog, Ashe, MF, and Graves. The way those champions felt are just gone. The only reworks I like are Heimer and Sion. And I guess the first Ryze rework (so the one before this one) was okay when he was on the under-tuned side, but only compared to the garbage that is current Ryze.
mcz117chief
Member
What about Poppy? I like her re-work expect her lore is a bit too try hard, I feel it is WAY too forced. They should have done it better.
Stone Ocean
Member
Besides GW MF lost nothing in her kit lol
Same for Ashe, you don't have to keep mashing her Q, I guess?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
It's definitely a matter of dissonance of having these characters you loved be taken to a grinder and coming out completely different.
The important question you have to ask yourself, is if they kept the spirit of the character intact?
Stone Ocean
Member
Or if there was any spirit to begin with, like Sion.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yeah original Sion was...a mishmash of random abilities that didn't synergize or make sense.
HE'S GOING TO GAIN HP PASSIVE, AND SPIT TO STUN, AS WELL AS TOGGLE ALOT OF DAMAGE, AND UH...GET A SHIELD..AND LIFESTEAL ALOT FOR HIS ULTIMATE!
Orochinagis
Member
Got a Explorer Ezreal skin fragment with a small icon on it, what does it means?
Sona changed a lot for me, to be more noticeable but not doing anything but poke.
Sona changed a lot for me, to be more noticeable but not doing anything but poke.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
If it has a little circular icon, that means it's a legacy skin/not currently on sale.
Orochinagis
Member
And way down to bronze III.....
i could say i miss old kog in that i think new kog is stupid and i just don't wanna play him out of principle
i've appreciated most of the reworks riot has done, even the failed ones like soraka or ryze, because they were always changing champions that needed changing and they were trying to address their issues
kog they just plain and simple ruined him for me
i've appreciated most of the reworks riot has done, even the failed ones like soraka or ryze, because they were always changing champions that needed changing and they were trying to address their issues
kog they just plain and simple ruined him for me
Peanut Butter
Member
high key, I wish I was in Bronze again. It was frustrating as hell, but also fun as hell because Bronze has God-tier /all chat and the games were super lit regardless of who was winning. And you can play literally anything and get away with it. ADC Janna hype.
SenorArdilla
Member
Don't forget about his AP scaling.
On a side note, Korea seems to be building heavy armor pen on their ADCs.
I remember that Rek'Sai game
whoa.that spiral cat girl does a really good jinx
mcz117chief
Member
What is your stance on voice chat, guys?
Want/don't want?
Want/don't want?
I'm not sure there is a good reason not to have it that doesn't include toxicity but we already get that over text.
It's something that would probably be useful in some ways but I really don't feel like it's necessary. You can relay pretty much all the information you need save ward locations with the ping system.
Basically I feel like it's unnecessary and probably wouldn't be used by more than 10% of players if they included it, but it's hard to say "don't want" because it's not like i'd campaign against it or anything. I'd just opt out of it and move on
mcz117chief
Member
You can but not everyone is sure what your vigorous pinging might mean, like sometimes it means there is an almost dead enemy in the bush and sometimes it can mean there are 3 hiding there. What might be the best option is to introduce the voice system like the one in Smite, using a large set of pre-recorded voice lines provided by the devs. It works incredibly well and is imo one of the best things about Smite.
Wolf Akela
Member
Still need a "Warded(?)" ping.
Yup. Ward ping would make it so you wouldn't need much more to communicate. I wouldn't really miss anything at least.