BreezyLimbo
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Miranda Nendo is legit tho
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Sr Kitsune
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SenorArdilla
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Can't really carry unless you're ahead.
Orochinagis
Member
Yep, getting paired with golds makes the game extra spicy and salty
that's all? I'm sure I've spent almost that on Hearthstone. I love that game so its definitely my #1 now. so much easier to climb when you dont have to bother with randoms
Still keeping tabs on LoL tho. Been watching LCS a little.
I actually think the meta is very nice (someone was complaining bout stale meta for pro games). It used to be much worse. At least now we can see Karma, Vlad, etc. Granted I dsont watch every match so there's a high chance I dont know what I'm talking bout. I am comparing this season to last. But anyways we got an LCS thread for that talk
Dreams-Visions
Member
ty for the help and support, GAF. now to get to Plat. >:-D
Random fact: I was -31 in win loss record at one point. Looked at the op.gg, switched back to bot/mid and just played my percentages. +25 wins over the last 2 months. Pretty smooth. MF ftw.
edit: can you guess which 2 champions I stopped playing only to immediately start winning?
I'm sure you can.
killatopak
Gold Member
Congrats!
I thought you were a Jayce main? Jayce not really good right now?
Happened to me as well early in the season when tank meta was prevalent. My win rate on Riven was 30+%. It was a sad time to be a Riven main or any carry champ at the time.
I thought you were a Jayce main? Jayce not really good right now?
Happened to me as well early in the season when tank meta was prevalent. My win rate on Riven was 30+%. It was a sad time to be a Riven main or any carry champ at the time.
Dreams-Visions
Member
ty good peoples.
Jayce is fine but my games tend to go to late game where Jayce's effectiveness falls off. Jayce's win % plummets the later a match goes.
It's not a coincidence.
As a game goes late, teams tend to tank up, his shockblast combo begins to do less and less damage, and his all-in becomes far riskier. Basically, the window to win with Jayce is in the 20-35 minute range when the Muramana tranforms and you have 3 damage items or so. You basically out-dps just about every AD damage dealer in the game during this window and you can damn near 4v1.
But again, in my elo, teams tend to dick around with leads rather than pushing advantages and turning them into objectives. After about 45 minutes, Jayce's impact becomes much more difficult to exert. ESPECIALLY as enemy tanks further bulk up over time. I think i've talked about this several times here how I was frustrated that late game tanks seemed to just roll over my teams while playing Jayce.
I still love me some Jayce and I still do a lot of work with him. If I manage to get to an Elo where people are more adept to understand what to do with a lead and split push advantage, I'll probably go back to focusing Jayce. I'll probably only pick him if the team has a tank jungler and support (ie Amumu + Leona)...or if I'm playing him mid. Going out there with 1 or 0 tanks is almost always a sure loss in my experience.
Jayce is fine but my games tend to go to late game where Jayce's effectiveness falls off. Jayce's win % plummets the later a match goes.
It's not a coincidence.
As a game goes late, teams tend to tank up, his shockblast combo begins to do less and less damage, and his all-in becomes far riskier. Basically, the window to win with Jayce is in the 20-35 minute range when the Muramana tranforms and you have 3 damage items or so. You basically out-dps just about every AD damage dealer in the game during this window and you can damn near 4v1.
But again, in my elo, teams tend to dick around with leads rather than pushing advantages and turning them into objectives. After about 45 minutes, Jayce's impact becomes much more difficult to exert. ESPECIALLY as enemy tanks further bulk up over time. I think i've talked about this several times here how I was frustrated that late game tanks seemed to just roll over my teams while playing Jayce.
I still love me some Jayce and I still do a lot of work with him. If I manage to get to an Elo where people are more adept to understand what to do with a lead and split push advantage, I'll probably go back to focusing Jayce. I'll probably only pick him if the team has a tank jungler and support (ie Amumu + Leona)...or if I'm playing him mid. Going out there with 1 or 0 tanks is almost always a sure loss in my experience.
Nah, if you get plat you gotta go for diamond. Can't be having that crappy looking plat border for a whole season.
Dreams-Visions
Member
roger that.
Yeah of course. Once someone gets to plat you have to give them the advice to go for diamond.
EzekelRAGE
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I forgot how much fun AP Cho was.
Stone Ocean
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I watched that match. Cass was 0/4 at one point and ended up carrying pretty hard.
You just dunno for sure til you play I guess
Stone Ocean
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Best part is the Shaco basically took a dump on the Noc lmao
Reivaxe
Member
Wow, dodged so many damn games today.
Mainly cause I only feel like playing Illaoi and people keep banning her OR someone picks Teemo. I really don't feel like putting up with Teemo's bullshit kit right now but I refuse to let Yas enter my games so I'm not gonna use my ban on him.
Plus ever since her nerf it's gonna be hella hard keeping any tents up in lane vs ranged champs.
Mainly cause I only feel like playing Illaoi and people keep banning her OR someone picks Teemo. I really don't feel like putting up with Teemo's bullshit kit right now but I refuse to let Yas enter my games so I'm not gonna use my ban on him.
Plus ever since her nerf it's gonna be hella hard keeping any tents up in lane vs ranged champs.
Peanut Butter
Member
Just got done playing with a polite Yasuo who went 5/0/10 and helped us win the game in a dominant fashion.
AMA
AMA
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Stone Ocean
Member
I leave Silver for a few months and it seems like people have gone full apeshit
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
you can taste the edge.
that's a big improvement on the arcade ahri vfx
gj rito
also kat is last big assassin rework: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/QjJgio3P-assassin-roster-update-katarina
- ward jumping probably out
- resets still in, probably extra resets on shunpo
- slower shunpo and w
- more interactive laning
sounds good
BreezyLimbo
Banned
sounds like a huge nerf to Kat going by just that
Wonder if they'll add any cc to her
or else she'll be useless since there doesn't seem to be a place for a CCless mage, even assassin.
Wonder if they'll add any cc to her
or else she'll be useless since there doesn't seem to be a place for a CCless mage, even assassin.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
why are u silver
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yeah she's strong if you're facing a braindead team. Kat is so easily countered. Send a breeze her way that'll stun her and bam she's done for.
Stone Ocean
Member
Sounds like Shunpo will have a pounce-style reset in which you can E in then E out on an allied unit.
I basically ignored ranked this season after I got placed in S4. I have like 60 total games and most of them are just climbing back and dicking around with mid lane and supp.
eh i don't think it's that easy, it requires some good coordination to save easy to land instant cc for her since there are often other threats you need to worry about
maybe you want to use ur cc on the adc that's overextended but now kat just rolls over ur team
i also really hate her laning cos it's a lot of her passively farming while being really hard to push out of lane thanks to the 4 pot start and then buying a negatron cloak and still being able to practically one shot you
i find it interesting that "She will be getting multiple new spells". that's a really good idea imo, i think her q and w specially are really bad spells and honestly her ult kind of is too.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Like Neko said
Alot of the meta characters being used have CC that counter Kat easily. Gragas, Reksai, Thresh, even someone like Janna or Ashe can shut her down.
What's in meta is characters who can do damage and/or CC. Kat does damage, but is just shut down far too easily.
If they change her skillset, they need to add CC, because that's simply the state of where the meta is in.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Boy this game was shitshow. It felt worse than a silver game. There were three trolls, can you spot them all?
But i managed to 1v1 the illaio and i finally got a box so i guess that went well.
Fruity Insanity
Member
I'm scared of what they'll do to her, but since they're keeping her passive and shunpo, I'm not /too/ worried.
No more ward-hopping is going to hurt, though.
And if they take hers away, they sure as hell better take Lee's and Jax's away, too, because otherwise I'm going to cry.
(´°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥｀
No more ward-hopping is going to hurt, though.
And if they take hers away, they sure as hell better take Lee's and Jax's away, too, because otherwise I'm going to cry.
(´°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥̥̥̥̥̥｀
Stone Ocean
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I don't really see whats wrong with her ult, if anything its the only well designed aspect of her kit since it has clear highs and lows.
Wolf Akela
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They keep flip flopping on her ult IIRC. They moved some power from it during her last rework then put it to her new current W. But recently they've nerfed parts of her kit then tried to move it back to ult to compensate. Compared to other assassins she's a bit too shut down by Exhaust.
i don't like how her ult is supposed to be a dot thing but what it actually does is deal a billion burst dmg that you can't really walk away of, you can't dodge either
also it's a really binary spell that it's either 100% useless if i pick lulu (which i always do against kat cos fuck you for picking kat) or really frustrating if i pick lux
it even has that weird bonus ad scaling because idk, gunblade or something lol
maybe if q+shunpo+w+r isn't instant it'll be ok, idk
Stone Ocean
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AD scaling is because of Gunblade and her old rune setup.
I dunno, I think Lotus creates interesting assassin gameplay for her because she needs to be extra wary of when to go in and when to ult. The problem is the rest of her kit just lets her faceroll cleanup so she hardly needs it when she's fed.
I dunno, I think Lotus creates interesting assassin gameplay for her because she needs to be extra wary of when to go in and when to ult. The problem is the rest of her kit just lets her faceroll cleanup so she hardly needs it when she's fed.
yeah that's cool
her ult might be ok with a different basic spell set, but with her current kit she's really binary and unfun to play against
AD scaling comes from the old Kata kit, where you could build Kata AD or AP. Her ult used to scale with either AD or AP, depending on which one gave the highest damage.
Q only scaled with AD, E only scaled with AP, ult scaled with either. W was just a spell modifier that added extra effect to Q/E.
Building Kata with a couple of bloodthirsters. sword of the occult and a void staff if needed gave her good ult damage, good aoe damage, waveclear and lifesteal. The AP build had a lot more utility with Rylai and didn't lose damage if you died due to bloodthirster stacking; you were a lot more reliant on getting a perfect ult since the E with AP is much worse than the Q with AD.
I liked to play her AD. It was kinda dumb, but a lot of the AD scaling is legacy from that, and the added influence of Gunblade in later seasons.
Inexperienced people would build armor against the AD stacking Kata.
Q only scaled with AD, E only scaled with AP, ult scaled with either. W was just a spell modifier that added extra effect to Q/E.
Building Kata with a couple of bloodthirsters. sword of the occult and a void staff if needed gave her good ult damage, good aoe damage, waveclear and lifesteal. The AP build had a lot more utility with Rylai and didn't lose damage if you died due to bloodthirster stacking; you were a lot more reliant on getting a perfect ult since the E with AP is much worse than the Q with AD.
I liked to play her AD. It was kinda dumb, but a lot of the AD scaling is legacy from that, and the added influence of Gunblade in later seasons.
Inexperienced people would build armor against the AD stacking Kata.
this new pad thingie is pretty neat
yeah i also remember the days of voyboy playing tank kata
kata has been a dumb champion for a while now heh
AzureSkies
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this new pad thingie is pretty neat
it looks very nice, but you're gonna have a hard time convincing me to replace my razr megaman 10 mouse pad.
so happy that a non competitive platformer got a esports mousepad years after release, even more baffling that it never even came to pc.
capcom pls
Stone Ocean
Member
Scarra said on stream that he playtested new Kat and loves her new direction, I'm hype
Troubled Bat
Member
Maybe with the rework, she'll finally be worthy of actually having a Project skin.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
katarina becomes ekko 2.0 :^)
Stone Ocean
Member
They're removing her DR so hopefully not
Enough tank assassins, with any luck Riot will finally get rid of Ekko as well
Ghost is Bad
Banned
dw. the leblanc rework will make her ridiculously op with tank items this time.