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Are those TIE-fighters in the background?
Master Yi Jedi / Lightsaber Skin Confirmed!!!
The next champion will be a Centaur? I'm disappointed
Maybe its the new Soraka model
Goats aren't like horses at all. This kind of blatant Capra-ism is just disgusting.
Maybe I missed something or I'm not into LoL enough.
New model means that it could happen an existing champ to be replaced with another one different only in the apperance? Did it already happened?
And by the way, that model seams ugly
Gaf rage can be scary sometimes. @_@
I was arguing that for the particular case of trynd + ezreal with high crits and attack speed on the other team, when rammus has warmogs, his taunt + thornmail would do more damage to trynd/ezreal than taunt without thornmail. Someone was also saying that rammus W reduces the amount of damage returned by thornmail but someone else said it didn't. I don't think either trynd or ezreal had magic resist so it wouldn't apply in this case.
Someone else seemed to be arguing that frozen heart's attack speed reduction is better than extra damage due to taunt + thornmail, and presumably the best solution is just to try to have enough damage from everyone besides rammus to nuke trynd + ezreal.
I came around to say that the second argument seems reasonable, since taunt only affects one person and it may be difficult to get rammus to survive long enough and coordinate with the team for the taunt to actually hit trynd or ezreal.
So in the end, even with warmogs, thornmail should not be purchased by even rammus or leona -- is that the general consensus? I am aware of common sentiment like "thornmail is a noob trap learn 2 play", but I prefer numerical analysis or references if possible.
Do you only play top lane? I am so jealous.Wow, some other guy picked poppy
This ends my 30 game poppy spree
Only lost 5 games! 83% win rate. I think i'm ready for ranked.
This is hilarious and absolutely true. I've considered starting taking notes myself about which lanes tend to fail the most, etc.
I did end up pseudo-carrying from the top lane with Riven in ranked again, for a change. I was only like 12/3/9 or whatever but I don't think it was a high kill count game in general.
We didn't even play it right... and against heal supports, MF's passive has a heal debuff remember? MF nunu has always been a very strong lane, just most people don't run it. Also, the another reason that nunu is so good against ads is that his iceball and ulti slows movement speed AND attack speed. So as soon as you bloodboil your ad and iceball your opponent, they are attacking slower, moving slower, and your ad is attacking faster and moving faster. So you win the trade no matter what.
We should have played A LOT more aggressively than we did though.
Thornmail is simply counter-intuitive for a tank to use. Doing damage simply isn't your job, and there are a host of better items that are better for doing what needs to be done: keeping your team alive and minimizing enemy damage output. With only six item slots Thornmail simply doesn't use that slot very well. As said before, Frozen Heart will have a much more significant impact on the damage output of the enemy team, and provides the tank with much needed CDR and mana. If you really need more armor after that Randuin's Omen is still going to do a lot more than a Thornmail in team fights.
Thornmail isn't even a very good counter to Tryndamere. People like to idealize it in some situation where you'll turn the tables and get him good, but what makes Trynd a terror ever is the damage he puts out while being invincible. You want to minimize what he can do while he's up, and what he can do during that invulnerable phase. As for Ezreal, while the bulk of his damage is attack based half of his spells deal magic damage.
For a character like Rammus who already has an armor and magic resists steroid the idea that you would need more armor than what a Randuin's and Frozen Heart would be a little much. Rammus can already deal damage back to people that can attack him, you don't need to augment that in a serious setting. So even though you want some armor based items health gain items are going to yield a larger benefit, as they give you more general survivability while requiring enemies to chew through more of you and keep damaging themselves.
So yeah, Thornmail, don't do it most of the time.
It sounds like thornmail needs buffed then, as it only occasionally seems useful.
I have seen it work on rare occasions, normally when a non-tank gets it and someone kills themselves on it since they weren't expecting it. I had a fed AD carry vs fed AD carry battle once where the other AD carry took a ton of damage and possibly died due to thornmail, since both AD carries had lifesteal. That's again something I would hardly ever build, though.
I have seen it work on rare occasions, normally when a non-tank gets it and someone kills themselves on it since they weren't expecting it. I had a fed AD carry vs fed AD carry battle once where the other AD carry took a ton of damage and possibly died due to thornmail, since both AD carries had lifesteal. That's again something I would hardly ever build, though.
Wolf Akela
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I actually just had a Tryn kill himself when he was chasing me as Warwick, lol.
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Like everything IMO it comes down to team comps. I actually think Thorn can be extremely useful on Rammy, but that all depends on the team comp. You just don't want to prioritize it over stacking HP. Not necessarily a great Trendy counter as has been said cause of Trendy's ult. That being said Thorn can be the bane of existence to a character like Master Yi or a Vayne with a ton of life steal.
Buff it up much more and it would become slightly OP if they moved it to like 50% dmg return especially since it's cheaper than a lot of other items. People just need to get over this blanket idea in their heads that there is one build that should be exactly followed for everything, and more just try and always follow some general guidelines.
So it counters champs that already counter themselves that nobody plays?
Nobody plays Vayne anymore? I know Kog'maw and Ezreal and Corki and Sivir may be great, but I didn't realize she was that terrible now.
Graves still seems decent too. If he becomes free again, I'd like to try him with the 4000+ HP build for hijinx.
What do you do when you are getting counter jungled? Shiv stole my red right of the bat and then ganked mid and got a kill. She was then to strong for me to deal with and kept invading and I only got one red all game. I kept a timer but she was always there with help from either mid or bot. I died like 3 times in my own jungle with my team berating me the entire time.
Ward it (red) and/or the area leading up to it (jungle ramp) before it spawns, and ask your mid or bot for help before it comes up. If their team is coordinating with their jungler to always have 2-3 people there, and your team is not, then their team is outplaying your team even if it isn't your fault personally, in my opinion.What do you do when you are getting counter jungled? Shiv stole my red right of the bat and then ganked mid and got a kill. She was then to strong for me to deal with and kept invading and I only got one red all game. I kept a timer but she was always there with help from either mid or bot. I died like 3 times in my own jungle with my team berating me the entire time.
If you get counter jungled hardcore, it's everybody's fault. Not even kidding. If your mid cant help you, if your top cant help you, bot cant.... they're very likely losing their lanes. Some of it may be your fault - ganking lanes while your buff spawns, not being there on time, not counter jungling her back properly. etc.
Jazzy Network
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Counter jungling is my achilles heel. Anyone who can counter jungle well, I'm pretty much fucked.
What boggles my mind is the people (they are always Zilean or Sona) who take CV and manage to hit me in the jungle like 75% of the time. Not like, near me, or just checking red buff, these people will randomly hit CV directly on top of the wolves as I'm killing them, even if no one on their team is anywhere around my jungle (presumably, given I've warded the river or whatever). It's scary.
It's not random. That's the mark of a good support.
It's clearly the sign of good HAX. No one should be able to spy on me in the jungle, it's like my own private little world.
Jazzy Network
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Trying to learn Alistar support. Read some guides that suggested maxing W before Q. I don't see the rationale in this. Q has a longer CD and Alistar isn't going to be maxing a skill for damage sake.
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aztek is ok
I think it's because you might be forced to finish someone off with W. Not really sure
No, I played poppy in all the roles. Top, Jungle, support, as duo bot with support and mid.
Getting 25/30 wins with that is crazy outstanding. :/ I am jealous, ESPECIALLY if this was solo queue draft.
Only got to play top poppy when i played with gaf. I don't have the luxury to go top in solo draft.
XeroSauce
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Q, W, E, Two levels in E, max Q, max E, max W.
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Just tell them you main Irelia top, people will think your pro and save you the spot. Then select and lock poppy at last seconds and say "omg my cat was on fire, lucky I randomed into my second best champion poppy!"
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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I wonder if this person was someone who worked at their building or just a person who works at home(community manager/mod or something like that I guess).
I imagine if it's the former it would of been very embarrassing to be fired for something like that.
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In this economy too, hate to see anyone lost their job, even if it is their own stupidity.
Is this why Rayven won't play with us, because we are bunch of rage inducting feeders.
Rayven won't play because if he does, I'll bug him to do something about the chat disconnect message, which makes the box turn yellow in the corner and takes like, FOUR whole clicks to bring up and dismiss.In this economy too, hate to see anyone lost their job, even if it is their own stupidity.
Is this why Rayven won't play with us, because we are bunch of rage inducting feeders.
Avinexus
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He was able to ban someone. He would have to work at their office or something, unless they give the ability to ban people from the game to just anyone.
Legato.Reborn-
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Haha jokes on all of you! I play with Rayven every night!
Wait.
Wait.
Wolf Akela
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Some guy on GameFAQs just trolling his way to 0 ELO. While I'd hate to be part of his team, the whole thing is just amusing.
He's been posting some pre-match chat. He's Taziuse here btw.
He's been posting some pre-match chat. He's Taziuse here btw.
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Guess I missed the backstory on this, is there a link?
Ugh, just went 13/0/6 Riven in ranked, even versus a tryndamere top lane...FINALLY, when I died (13/1/6), they instantly took down the inhib, two turrets, and nexus. I should have just run instead of defending the inhib, one single mistake on my part loses it.
10/3/6 the game before that, also a loss (with a 1/8 caitlyn that was like, they accidentally clicked on ranked, first time caitlyn guys). Both games, bot and/or mid lane fed.
I CAN'T CARRY HARD ENOUGH
Side note, I had thornmail that game, and I would like to think that a lot of the tryndamere + kog'maw + wukong deaths were a result of it in the latter half of the game.
Another side note, it was like the third good sejuani I have ever seen. Their team wasn't much good without her there, but when she was in teamfights it was horrible.
10/3/6 the game before that, also a loss (with a 1/8 caitlyn that was like, they accidentally clicked on ranked, first time caitlyn guys). Both games, bot and/or mid lane fed.
I CAN'T CARRY HARD ENOUGH
Side note, I had thornmail that game, and I would like to think that a lot of the tryndamere + kog'maw + wukong deaths were a result of it in the latter half of the game.
Another side note, it was like the third good sejuani I have ever seen. Their team wasn't much good without her there, but when she was in teamfights it was horrible.
Just sounds like you weren't taking advantage of how strong you were. I don't know how you could be losing a bunch of your team fights without dying once (read: you were probably playing like a pussy, rather than the badass 10/0 riven is). You should be making plays if you're the one thats way ahead of your team.Ugh, just went 13/0/6 Riven in ranked, even versus a tryndamere top lane...FINALLY, when I died (13/1/6), they instantly took down the inhib, two turrets, and nexus. I should have just run instead of defending the inhib, one single mistake on my part loses it.
10/3/6 the game before that, also a loss (with a 1/8 caitlyn that was like, they accidentally clicked on ranked, first time caitlyn guys). Both games, bot and/or mid lane fed.
I CAN'T CARRY HARD ENOUGH
Side note, I had thornmail that game, and I would like to think that a lot of the tryndamere + kog'maw + wukong deaths were a result of it in the latter half of the game.
Another side note, it was like the third good sejuani I have ever seen. Their team wasn't much good without her there, but when she was in teamfights it was horrible.
In both games, the AD carry was feeding. In one, it was caitlyn's first caitlyn game. They accidentally picked ranked. =(
Also we were taking objectives...once I got fed we started turning the game AROUND because I was helping make plays. But still, once I made a mistake, that was it since it happened so late.
First time in ~96 games with Riven that I have EVER lost 4 in a row.
10/3/6, 13/1/6, 9/9/8 (bad game), 8/4/5.
All I want is like, a single duo queue partner who can go mid or bot lane, or even jungle, without feeding. First two games had bot/mid lanes giving up 8-10 kills early game, third I was dying too much but also killing, and fourth game had a 0/10 jungler. *cries*
*edit* Dear diary, the next game was like a 23-minute surrender thanks to a griefing master yi, and finally I went 12/2/9 vayne to win one. GOOD NIGHT RANKED GAMES.
10/3/6, 13/1/6, 9/9/8 (bad game), 8/4/5.
All I want is like, a single duo queue partner who can go mid or bot lane, or even jungle, without feeding. First two games had bot/mid lanes giving up 8-10 kills early game, third I was dying too much but also killing, and fourth game had a 0/10 jungler. *cries*
*edit* Dear diary, the next game was like a 23-minute surrender thanks to a griefing master yi, and finally I went 12/2/9 vayne to win one. GOOD NIGHT RANKED GAMES.
Avinexus
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Original thread
Riot follow-up thread
There were actually a few more threads mentioned about the exact same guy abusing his powers, but the incident yesterday is what finally got them to actually do something.
Most of GAF is usually on 7hours before the time i'm posting now.
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