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Chaox had awful positioning. That Baron fight was SO bad for Ashe.
Yeah, that was bad positioning on Chaox for that fight. Every other fight was almost great positioning.
Perhaps, but Blaze won 10 games and lost 1 out of the whole tournament, so I think they deserve credit for consistency.
Whatever the reasoning, TSM were absolutely crushed by Blaze.
The narrative can be spun so many ways, from microanalysis (e.g. Ashe positioning, Dyrus missing his poison trail) to macroanalysis (e.g. Koreans take the game more seriously as a job). Whatever the variables in play are, it is very clear that Korea is rising rapidly.
The narrative can be spun so many ways, from microanalysis (e.g. Ashe positioning, Dyrus missing his poison trail) to macroanalysis (e.g. Koreans take the game more seriously as a job). Whatever the variables in play are, it is very clear that Korea is rising rapidly.
Yup. I can settle with this. It's sort of surprising how good they have gotten considering the game was recently released over there.
EDIT: Wow.... Reaper saying "Best Solo Top in the World." What a call. lol.
Pancakes
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Korea has just always been better (look at Starcraft and the recent EVO tournament). TSM is going to have to go TO Korea and learn from them if they hope to ever stand a chance in the global scene. They will still probably continue to dominate the NA scene but this has put them on notice.
Yup. I definitely agree. On that note, I found this article sort of insulting...
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2012/08/tech/gaming.series/korea.html?hpt=hp_c1
There are only like two Korean teams anyone should be scared of. This will probably be M5 all over again where there's a meta shift and playstyle that launches a team to success before everyone gets their number.
Blaze lost a lot of team fights they shouldn't have with massive gold leads. It was embarrassing. Hopefully this is a wakeup call for TSM. They were incredibly lax on their practice schedule and took an extensive vacation that really hurt them as a team. They also didn't run their old winning comps once.
There are not enough laughing .gifs for me to post in response to this.
Pancakes
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Laugh all you like. Foreigners can pretend that they can match Korea while staying on their own home turf. It will turn into the new brood war, where the foreign scene was basically considered amateur hour.
The article is actually pretty decent even with it's errors. It gets better towards the end when they start accepting MKP's pro-gaming lifestyle. That said, CNN's audience isn't us. It's the parents and older folk who don't quite understand E-sports.
Princess Carl
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oh I agree with you in that regard. Im just saying is in response to first and a half game and the redo game, the difference in team comp strength was very obvious
I think my problem is with the angle and slant on the article doesn't do the pro-gamer life justice. Sure I think it would be an excellent article if it encompasses those of gamers in general but it tailors to the idea of pro-gamers and goes with a slant that's really meh... I could be wrong but I JUST took an article writing class and this kind of stuff would be considered somewhat misleading and possibly dishonest in the general scope of things.
One single Korean team won a minor tournament running off an atypical format where most major teams weren't present. It is laughable to even toy with the idea that the nation has any control over the scene. Should people watch out for Blaze? Absolutely. Should people go "train" in Korea? Of course not. CLG spent more time scrimming each other there than Korean teams.
Uh... it's not just Azubu Blaze. Nearly all the Korean teams outclass the foreign teams easily. Have you seen OGN? With the advent of LoL and SCII, Korea has proven themselves to be the mecca of E-Sports as well as one of the leading countries in developing and delivering high-class pro-gamers. Anyone who thinks otherwise, I believe is doing a great disservice by not recognizing the potential and power of the country.
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The one single Korean team didn't just win this tournament. They downright embarrassed the foreigner teams present here. Would M5/CLG/TeamXYZ given them a better fight? Maybe. Who can say? But they would not have defeated Blaze. Hell, CLG's jungler picked up Skarner because their team got facerolled by him so hard over in Korea. There is so much you can learn from the Korean playstyle, without them we would be stuck with the boring, passive, farming style that NA and EU teams were employing.
You don't have to go to Korea if you're okay with winning foreigner only tournaments, that's how SC2 started out. But once Koreans started getting sponsored and flown over here to the states? All your prize money will belong to them.
I agree with this statement wholeheartedly.
Princess Carl
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Princess Carl
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I'm talking about the Ashe in my game who bought a Pick Axe and Zeal before a B.F. Sword.
Princess Carl
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I've been here for at least 3-4 cycles of LOLgaf and I still won't quit it when gw2 comes out!
I need to come back to avoid elo decay D:
Want that gold prize!
And TSM probably lost because Chaox had terrible positioning in the last 2 games in the finals. He would run up and die, doing little to no damage. Disappointing.
First of all, it was known from the start that TSM might as well have been the only team to show up. This Arena event was a joke as far as attendance goes, and judging the scene from this event is beyond foolish. That is why jumping to conclusions based on this event is a terrible idea.
Blaze didn't even completely crush. There was a number of close games that they barely eked out a win, and they lost to Curse of all people, who couldn't even handle TSM while they were half trolling. Show me Korean teams posting results at real tournaments and we'll have something.
Skarner is run by certain players. It's not like Korea invented Skarner jungle, in fact most of the Korean League scene is simply piggybacking off of Chinese strategies.
I don't know how I can even take you seriously if you're just going to distort the truth to blow Korea up as big as possible. The "Korean playstyle" of OGN games often has fewer kills and deaths. It's very passive and boring because they try to isolate 2v1 scenarios versus the top laner, shutting him out rather than focusing on potential action between champions on an equal footing. It is extremely common to see OGN games with very few kills and little aggression, and there's little room for variance in the way games play out.
League of Legends is not Starcraft 2. Name one team based competitive video game that Koreans dominate at? None? Okay. Your needless infatuation with the country is extremely obnoxious. Korea is not at all a leader for League, and the game only recently released there. China has controlled the Asian scene, and even with the countries lengthy Dota heritage the numbers Asia put up in tournaments during Season One were unimpressive. Maybe things will be different in the future, but the gross inflation of some imaginary "l33t Korean" skills that are taking over League is a concocted world that only exists in your imagination.
Princess Carl
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I agree
It's ranked.
And she has a skin.
What's with the solo queue runes? Better harass?
You're extrapolating a whole hell of a lot from one invitational win. I believe CGL.EU is currently 3/0 at OGN and pretty handily beat WE (who actually recently beat Blaze in an OGN match). Taipei Assassins also got embarrassed at the GG Chronicle tournament like two weeks ago. I think it's safe to say that Asia, just like Europe and NA, has its fair share of really strong teams and weaker ones.
In this case, I'd say it's more Blaze being just a really strong team rather than representative of the country as a whole.
Scarra on. http://www.twitch.tv/scarra/popout
I bet he talks about MLG Arena.
I bet he talks about MLG Arena.
Jazzy Network
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Cuz you bad son.
Did you know Nautilus W resets auto attack.
Also, the streak is broken with assist Graves. 2/0/7 victory.
Wolf Akela
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Feels bad man. We managed to shut Tryn during laning phase, but he goes to other lanes to get food (teammates). Shaco split pushes the hell out of us. This is why I almost always take Teleport. I freaking hate split push, especially if it's Yi. 
Alistar gloated so much about killing me right before they won. I guess he's really pleased after I ripped him through his ult many times.
Alistar gloated so much about killing me right before they won. I guess he's really pleased after I ripped him through his ult many times.
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Wolf Akela
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Why isn't Tristana played more often? Best range after some levels, easy mode farming (that pushes lanes), two excellent escapes and a ridiculous steroid.
Trades poorly, very easy to miss your stomp by just a little or have it be dodged and lose trades or miss your escapes because of it. Her mid and early game are pretty weak in comparison to champs like Ez and Graves and she has to go all in to take advantage of the range on her E and W. Even her ultimate pushes people away, so unless they're backed against a wall you can't really use it to trade without taking a risk. Her kit just has very low synergy really. Oh yeah, and she autopushes lanes.
Prejudice against yordles.
One reason I've heard is that since she pushes lanes because of the splash, it can be hard to last hit, and/or your lane will get pushed too far. And that's presumably a bad thing unless you're Blaze, since you don't want to take a turret too early and you can get ganked from the river.
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