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League of Legends |OT3| Lizards are red, golems are blue. Give a leash or no gank 4 u
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eh unless the vayne knows what he/she is doing (which is only like 1% of the entire lol player base) then vayne will lose to anyone with good harass or cc.
E.g. Sona, taric, janna, lulu, draven, graves, miss fortune, ezreal, caitlyn etc...
With this said, most vayne will lose laning to 90% of bot lane combos.
If they are dodging skill shots or knowing how to trade with tumble/condemn, that vayne is good or you're getting outplayed.
If they are just farming and tumbling INTO you and hitting you nonstop and not getting a single condemn off, then you are playing the match up wrong and you should improve.
That combo was crazy. They could tower dive like nothing else.. I was Ez and my support was Lux. I literally couldn't do anything to do them.. couldn't harass Vayne because nunu was tanky and snowballs.. then Nunu would bloodboil and vayne would just wreck us, especailly after 6. Wasn't even safe hugging the tower.
Smurfing and learning to jungle is kinda fun, but the flow of the game is so weird in low levels that I don't think it helps.
I find my biggest problem is just doing the monsters efficiently (I'm often almost dead after doing red) and finding the right moments to farm. Maybe it's just the nature of low level matches, but I find myself running from lane to lane all the time.
I find my biggest problem is just doing the monsters efficiently (I'm often almost dead after doing red) and finding the right moments to farm. Maybe it's just the nature of low level matches, but I find myself running from lane to lane all the time.
AKingNamedPaul
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Being put in one too many matches where people have absolutely no idea what they are doing make me say to myself..I need to be in a team or I need to not play this game.
I turn to you gaf, because my friends aren't online right now. Anyone playing non-ranked games?
I turn to you gaf, because my friends aren't online right now. Anyone playing non-ranked games?
IsayFever
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@ Rex watch the game at the 2hr mark. http://www.twitch.tv/ogamingtv_international/b/339272834
That is how we play the push strat ;p
That is how we play the push strat ;p
lol double buff on the Jan--wait, when the fuck did the Katarina get there oh god 4 minute tower
Wolf Akela
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Looking at my old games makes me laugh.
phantom dancers
whats a last whisper
phantom dancers
whats a last whisper
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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That Garen.
Over 600 armor. What's the armor reduction limit?
Highest I've seen so far is 85% at something like 300 armor.
Over 600 armor. What's the armor reduction limit?
Highest I've seen so far is 85% at something like 300 armor.
Off-hand, the absolute highest possible is around 95% (~1800 Armor). It requires a gimmick setup with Trundles, though (basically double Agony use).
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Wolf Akela
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I'm guessing something like Trundle biting a meditating Yi.
Trundle with 6TMs = 678 armor
Yi with 6TMs while meditating = 983 armor
After Trundle ult = 1170 armor
I dunno... throw in runes, masteries, Aegis, Taric (+30), Soraka (+105)... what else? Too lazy to check on runes and mastery values right now.
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Trundle with 6TMs = 678 armor
Yi with 6TMs while meditating = 983 armor
After Trundle ult = 1170 armor
I dunno... throw in runes, masteries, Aegis, Taric (+30), Soraka (+105)... what else? Too lazy to check on runes and mastery values right now.
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No, it stacks multiplicatively. So 95% DR with Ninja Tabi* would mean .045% Damage Taken instead of .05%.
*Do note that this means one less Thornmail in use.
If we want to make it truly outrageous, I think the highest would be Trundle Agony on a disconnected player and then another Trundle using Agony on that Trundle.
That tryndamere in the second picture would make me cry forever if I was playing against him and he was good.... *shudddddder******
That tryn did more than two adcs combined. I'd say I couldn't believe a team didn't let a 32-9-12 carry them but failing and throwing seem to be a new norm for people in this game.
Hopefully some champions become terrible and get buffed as well. Only nerfs makes for sadness and despair.
It looks to have been a 5v4 (Twisted Fate left and was reported), and they had no tank.
Jazzy Network
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I'm rusty. Need a few more games to get back into my groove.
Good advice.
Just to pile on to this Easiest thing to remember about vayne is if can she condemn or silver bolt, if the answer is no to either you kill/harassl her before she gets either back up and starts to shoot at you.
Vayne has all the harass she needs a stun/knockback that you can use just about anywhere on the map except big open spots. Tumble isn't just a steriod for aa damage it's pretty good on giving you just a bit more space to either engage or retreat. She isn't the other adcs and really shouldn't be seen as that she is an assassin that happens to be adc. Most other adcs have skills to help them farm and aren't hyper carries either. Her sustain sucks earily game but the burst is unrivavled especially when you consider a good vayne has either used her stun or has has a teammate stunning/slowing when she starts going off.
She has been nerfed for having too much power if her kit was anymore adc friendly she would be broke.
SouthernDragon
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i want to play like this
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Wow
5 minutes in, 3 kills 2 turrets.
I've noticed that lane choice seems to be pretty fluid in pro games. Compared to ranked solo queue where if you deviate from bruiser top, AP mid, ADC/support bot, you are a troll and will be reported by your team.
The irony being people who cling to this setup like their life depended on it aren't actually emulating the pros but doing the opposite by being so rigid.
I just realized when Season 3 items come out all the old guides will be outdated.
Everyone will have to start new again with build choices.
5 minutes in, 3 kills 2 turrets.
I've noticed that lane choice seems to be pretty fluid in pro games. Compared to ranked solo queue where if you deviate from bruiser top, AP mid, ADC/support bot, you are a troll and will be reported by your team.
The irony being people who cling to this setup like their life depended on it aren't actually emulating the pros but doing the opposite by being so rigid.
I just realized when Season 3 items come out all the old guides will be outdated.
Everyone will have to start new again with build choices.
SouthernDragon
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This is amazing.
We did our own version of it last night. It worked fairly well even with me being a dumb and being muted all game.
To be fair, some of these pro lane strategies are nigh impossible to pull off in a solo queue game with no voice chat and prior practice. No way to run stuff like triple TP+promote in a solo queue game.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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But when the pros do it, they usually succeed. Often a solo queue person thinks they will break the meta and do something weird and end up getting stomped. That's why people are so afraid of letting people try new things.
I love that the season 3 items will completely change all the builds. Early games are really going to reward the creative that can complement their champions kit and counter the opponent. Exciting!!
Inskipp
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In case someone missed it, Crs Voyboy just picked Nasus against Wickd's Irelia in Lonestar Clash: http://www.twitch.tv/lonestarclash2/popout
Will watch to see what happens.
E: Voyboy gets FB. Things might get interesting.
Will watch to see what happens.
E: Voyboy gets FB. Things might get interesting.
Nasus is like the best way to counter Wickd's Next Level Irelia (stacked Attack Speed).
Omg. Wish I could watch. Keep me updated!
Wolf Akela
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Was there jungler intervention for the FB?
Inskipp
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Yes, Saint initiated a gank that enabled the FB.
Also, constant blue buffs fed to Nasus = lots of SS farm + free withers.
E: Currently Curse leading with 2 outer towers, CLGeu has 1 outer turret. Gold- count even with Curse leading by 1k. Both teams got 1 drake I think.
E2: Both teams danced in front of dragon for a minute, with voyboy pushing inner bot turret and wickd inner mid turret. 4 ppl from curse went to defend mid, clgeu tried to retreat. Froggen got caught and killed in Curse's red jungle, with yellowpete also getting caught & killed, and voyboy pushed into bottom inhibitor.
Oh and now Curse took an uncontested baron. Looking good for Curse.
E3: Curse took the inner mid turret out and the bottom inhibitor again. Nasus beastmode.
E4: Voyboy kept 3 people busy while rest of curse did baron. Voyboy dies while rest of Curse beasts through toplane. Top inhibitor down.
Curse team comp is really smart here. So much move speed between Ori, Nunu, Mundo, and Shurelia's on Nasus. Tons of slows too.
This tournament.
This tournament.
Cool! Go voyboy. Redemption.
Let's do this.
I'm okay with this.
Between Tales of the Lane and Lone Star Clash, it's looking like a Merry Cursemas today. Such great games all around.
EDIT: Also, Wickd's Irelia build versus Nasus was the stupidest shit I've ever seen from a pro. Obviously he's one of the world's best player, but really? Wit's + Zerkers + Ionic against Frozen Heart Nasus?
EDIT: Also, Wickd's Irelia build versus Nasus was the stupidest shit I've ever seen from a pro. Obviously he's one of the world's best player, but really? Wit's + Zerkers + Ionic against Frozen Heart Nasus?
Damn, 18 min match. Good stuff.
As much as I probably complain about streaks of terrible players, I've had a weird streak of good luck the last couple of days. Even though they're the normal lot of teams that rage in the lobby, and/or use racist or homophobic slurs, they still end up winning most of the time. Instead of playing my best characters I'm instead playing champions in ranked I hardly know, champions I've never had a win in ranked with...Ryze top, with less gold than the entire team. Terrible Tryndamere jungle. Kassadin when I have pretty much no clue about Kassadin (went 8/3/11). Screwed up and ended up with Janna (no win in ranked) when I was planning to trade her to someone else for mid lane...still won, with a great lane partner, and a 22/5 Xin top lane.
9/10 of my last normal/ranked matches are wins, and I'd need 4 more to get I think my first ever 10/10 match history wins (out of 1000+ games or whatever, maybe 1500 if you include the 500+ ranked games)...yet I still feel like my luck is bound to turn at any moment.
It isn't very encouraging regarding how much skill affects games either considering when I play champions I'm actually decent at, and try to win, it may make little difference, compared to playing random champions and winning 80-90% of games for a while. =P
9/10 of my last normal/ranked matches are wins, and I'd need 4 more to get I think my first ever 10/10 match history wins (out of 1000+ games or whatever, maybe 1500 if you include the 500+ ranked games)...yet I still feel like my luck is bound to turn at any moment.
It isn't very encouraging regarding how much skill affects games either considering when I play champions I'm actually decent at, and try to win, it may make little difference, compared to playing random champions and winning 80-90% of games for a while. =P
I do not understand LoLGAF. Suggests an inhouse. Doesn't do inhouse because people don't want to play inhouse. Someone else suggests inhouse, plays inhouse. What the fuck?.... Makes me fucking depressed.
EDIT: Same shit with ARAM. LoLGAF makes me feel like I'm not worth shit when making/suggesting games.
EDIT: Same shit with ARAM. LoLGAF makes me feel like I'm not worth shit when making/suggesting games.
Maybe 75% of LoLGAF has certain people on ignore, and maybe 80% of them don't have the initiative to actually create a lobby. I'm one of the latter usually.
Only a few select LoLGAF members have both the initiative to create a lobby, and send invites (even though the chatroom invite panel is still broken, RAYVENNNN), and only a select fewer LoLGAF members have the charisma for people to actually accept those invites.
Regarding the tournament championship round:
Only a few select LoLGAF members have both the initiative to create a lobby, and send invites (even though the chatroom invite panel is still broken, RAYVENNNN), and only a select fewer LoLGAF members have the charisma for people to actually accept those invites.
Regarding the tournament championship round:
Curse seemed pretty powerful dominating the first two games, but CLG.EU certainly made the final game one-sided, even winning the same Irelia vs Nasus matchup I think they lost earlier. I don't know what happened in game #4 though, whether it was close or one-sided.
SouthernDragon
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Timing?
It's not about having people on ignore. It's just hella depressing when you suggest something and everyone shoots it down. And when someone else suggests the EXACT same thing and they're all for it.
Also, as the other half of chatrooms being broken, it's nearly impossible to get a good feel on how many people are currently out of game in chat, even though those people may be afk. The chatroom currently just shows everyone as a white name, rather than showing half of them yellow so you know who's in a game, who just got out of a game, etc.
Probably. Honestly, I don't give a fuck anymore. I'm just going to imitate people based on my perception of them.
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