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League of Legends |OT3| Lizards are red, golems are blue. Give a leash or no gank 4 u
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During laning phase it's the ticking toxic shot that's sending people back to base. I'll concede that hitting random shrooms later game before/after baron for instance is probably too strong. I guess I don't feel it'll affect the way I play him very much.
Right now, I've been trying to perfect the Minion Captain Teemo build. Core is Banner/Cpt Enchant/HP Golem/and I like Icebound Gauntlets. I'm not sure how all of the +minion damage synergizes (does promote minion get anything from you?), but you basically create a pressure wave that attracts at least one person to deal with you and usually more.
Conversely, the same can be said about ADCs: Ones that get too aggressive and take free damage when harassing (and/or harassing and giving up cs) while others are too passive and don't follow up on the support. It's a two-way street down there. There's problems on both sides.
Given no shrooms, every one of my top laners will beat a Teemo once I get items. It's the shrooms mid all-in that get him his kills after his 1-6 pressure.
Of course, his DoT damage is what makes his harass so powerful but his shrooms are what really lets him "duel" so well.
Oh yeah. I completely agree. I've given up trading though. If you see my recent games most of the times I'm in the back because I want to focus on honing my farming abilities. I only die because I commit too much because of something the support did or because I get caught out. Both of which are my fault. I'm just saying that I've been seeing a surge of bad support players. Mostly Nami.
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hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Zyra nerfs!? Whyyyyyy!?
Do you really have to ask?
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Welp.
Wolf Akela
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BC nerf is enough. The most annoying thing about it is that you get flat 60 arpen. Now you get 10 + 25% at most. Stacking them is still okay ish but a lot of gold is wasted on flat arpen that doesn't stack.
Nerf to Cho's passive really makes me sad though.
Nerf to Cho's passive really makes me sad though.
ADC disconnects? Its okay, get Achtius a pentakill and win anyway.
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To be fair, Nami is a bit harder to play than most supports since she's rather feast or famine on her kit (e.g., land Q and win). So a lot of supports aren't used to hitting it and a lot of ADCs are wary on trusting their support to hit it. Her E is also awkward to keep track of on the ADC.
Well, yeah, his 1-10 is (mostly) unchanged. It's Level 11 that's the big one for laning phase. That's when death timers are getting up there in duration and you can start taking towers off a single death.
All I know is, I hope to see less Teemos.
League of Cleavers etc. etc. but, hey, 4v5 for around 25 minutes
To be fair, Nami is a bit harder to play than most supports since she's rather feast or famine on her kit (e.g., land Q and win). So a lot of supports aren't used to hitting it and a lot of ADCs are wary on trusting their support to hit it. Her E is also awkward to keep track of on the ADC.
Well, yeah, his 1-10 is (mostly) unchanged. It's Level 11 that's the big one for laning phase. That's when death timers are getting up there in duration and you can start taking towers off a single death.
All I know is, I hope to see less Teemos.
You're so mean. You just said that every one of your top laners will beat a Teemo when you get items, yet you still want him gone.
I want bruisers and tanks gone, can we compromise with that?And Achtius, do you average a pentakill a day now? That's like two pentakills in two days in your games.
He's a terribly unfun laner to go against. It's such a frustrating lane to deal with.
Edit: Of course, a Teemo game.
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Two day in a roll with a pentakill? Can we keep this going GAF?
crackbabyjr
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Yes please, I need more rolls.
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I see you changed your avatar, the patch isn't even up yet you MONSTER!
You complain that your supports are getting chunked and yet youre just sitting in the back and farming. Right.
The adc has to try to trade/poke when the support trade/pokes.
Perhaps you are the reason why your support is getting owned, since if their adc is on the ball, its literally 1v2 for your support.
Apparently you just need BC to get penta. Also ROW.
"Try" being a rather important key word here. I don't expect every single Snare that I land as Zyra, for instance, to be followed up on. Maybe be ready to land something (e.g., Caitlyn Q, Ezreal Q, Varus E, etc.) in these instances, yes, but don't give up cs in the process (unless it's an all-in for a kill situation) and definitely be wary about losing a trade.
But, generally, the ADC should follow up on the support; the support should also be trying to make plays when the ADC is available to follow up as well.
Well, it ended up being a mid Teemo, not a top. I had a Lee Sin (who ended up disconnecting) instead. Which isn't that bad of a matchup, really.
I understand what you're saying. The problem is that many of these supports go beyond our minion wave and into the midst of theirs and attempts to fight a 1v2. All the while, I'm trying to babysit this support who doesn't really know how to support and farming. It's annoying when I have to save the support's ass and we lose out on the trade because he made a reckless decision. Of course, then the support, let's use Nami in this case, starts yelling that I didn't follow up on the bubble opportunity he created when he doesn't consider how far out he went to bubble and the distance between me and the opponent.
Point being, I can't babysit a reckless support from doing stupid things and making bad decisions while farming. A support should be mindful of their opponent's abilities, the adc's capability, the positioning, the opportunities that are available. Not a suicidal champion that runs in trying to create opportunities, when in reality it's not but for the opponent.
Trust me. I've considered a lot about what I'm doing wrong and I find it very hard to believe that it's majority my fault. Granted it's my fault for not being able to babysit the support as well a pro but a support shouldn't be an idiot and not know how to play the role either.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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There was a red post a few weeks ago about Heimer. I think the jist of it was that Heimer is hard to balance because if they make the turrets better he quickly becomes OP but they're not happy about where he is. So that basically sounds like rework but it was more like "Yeah we want to do that at some point" instead of "We're working on it now" so I don't know I'd hold my breath.
That's what they've said. No idea on the time frame though.
don't buy the skin, crack would be sad.
crackbabyjr
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Lone_Prodigy
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scy, right about manga, right about gaming, right about everything.
I don't know I like playing as Cait, she's basically the LoL version of Sniper except with an escape. If you've ever killed someone with Net, hilarity ensues.
I just hate Ez. In S2 I would always troll in SR by saying he was the worst champ in the game and it would get alot of people riled up.
Yup, I like it alot.
Diana will still be strong, her E nerf is kinda eh though, her damage needed to be adjusted, don't see the point of that as well.
It's a good thing they didn't have more cleavers...
Take a break. It's honestly healthier than playing when you're frustrated, in my opinion, and you can still come back later if you want.
New sale, frost skins: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-skin-sale-ice-fort-war
Bought me 10 bucks and got me frost Janna. No one told me that skin was so good. Splash art is pretty smexy as well.
Thinking of doing Malph too, but I barely even play him anymore since someone spilled the beans and now he's always banned.
Bought me 10 bucks and got me frost Janna. No one told me that skin was so good. Splash art is pretty smexy as well.
Thinking of doing Malph too, but I barely even play him anymore since someone spilled the beans and now he's always banned.
I really like Cait's passive and her traps, but I dunno. She's the one I'm leaning the most, but I hate her default look so much I feel like it's a champion that's gonna cost me 5 bucks to buy, in addition to the IP.
Yeah, both Sheriff and Resistance look really good, though I don't like neither of the 3D models. At least they're cheap.
I think that they just went overboard. I mean, nerfing all her skills feels like too much, and she wasn't THAT OP.
Take a break, come back later. No point in letting feeders ruin your life.
This is what happens when you guys aren't playing for fun. Stop taking the game so seriously.
Also:
And then we lost.
Although it was a surprisingly close game.
Dr McNinja MD and Magic Love Hands are awesome summoner names...
No, it's not. Please don't do it. Bot lane got crushed and Twitch got huge. If it was any other AD carry I could have dealt with it as Poppy but his invis. got the better of me. Also he had heal and not exhaust. nnnnnnnnnnnnn
Inskipp
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Support Kayle is pretty bad.
really? she has a slow, heal and steroid plus her passive doesnt hurt in a duo lane. seems like she'd be a better nunu pre-6; just with worse health and a worse ult.
Her heal is garbage. The slow isn't very much and isn't that useful. The passive is bad as a support, particularly early game, and she has no way to apply it without investing into E, which her kit is based around.
Nunu is like the exact opposite of Kayle. He doesn't have the same mana problems. He has one of the best buffs in the game. He has one of the best debuffs in the game. It's about the attack speed modifiers more than the speed. Also his ice blast is actually more spammable so it helps more in fights and can be chained on enemies.
Inskipp
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Compare that to Taric. He has a stun (which only needs 1 point to gain full effect), a heal that affects both, an aura that grants armor (doubled for Taric himself) and doubles as an AoE nuke that shreds enemy armor. Oh and another AoE nuke with aura- buffs.
There are better examples, but the point here is that there are several champions that are far more suitable for support role than Kayle, who is better off as a solo- lane carry.
B-b-but we haven't even played a game together!
I haven't played with most of LoLGAF
Thinking of getting both of these skins as well, if only because I don't like Janna's default in game model. The splash is gadlyke though.
Ahh I see, if it's an aesthetic thing then I can see where you're coming from. She's really grown on me since when I first started League I also said she was a bad ADC back when I mained Kog. I think what I like most about her is her range, but loses badly to Vayne.
I'm in agreement, she's one of the few viable AP junglers, don't know why they're nerfing her utility AS WELL as her damage. Might have to go back to Skarner for jungling.
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