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League of Legends |OT3| Lizards are red, golems are blue. Give a leash or no gank 4 u
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You should try lulu or zyra. Not all supports are janna/soraka
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Support Zyra, gg.
PhillipCostigan
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Yeah, that's one of the main problems. It averages out. You get bad teams one game and good teams the next. One step forward, one step back and it becomes impossible to move up the divisions that way. I got 24 LP for my win and then lost 19 of them because I had an awful team. If I keep having it go that way I'll just never move up to the elo/rank I should be at.
I can play really well and still get nowhere because my team sucks, and that really annoys me. Not to mention it seems that people are worse in ranked than in normals which is the worst.
Supporting is one of the best ways to gain elo, a lot of supports can have a large impact on team fights, especially by assissting the adc, landing clutch Sona/Nunu/Zyra ultimates that have large impacts on fights. Also you can help your ADC get fed in lane. I dont see whats so bad about it. If they are abusing you just mute them and go on with your job.
Edit: For instance I was in a ranked game and our team was getting spanked in lane. We were transitioning over to dragon to contest when the enemy all walked into my nunu ult which allowed my team to ace, drag and take two towers.
If your Elo is higher than your rank, you'd earn (far more) than you'd lose. The entire system is built towards getting your hidden Elo to match your ranking.
Also worth noting, right now LP gains in all 1st Divisions seems to be broken, with it notably worse at Silver I.
Inskipp
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Clearly, you haven't played Support LeBlanc.
not this again
Tried it, didn't work. To be fair I was supporting Fiddle ADC lol.
6-1 in ranked today which put me into the next division:
Weird thing is, it jumped me from Div 4 to Div 2. They might have explained why that would happen before, but it was a surprise to me.
Nice!!!
I disagree. Support might have had a larger impact last season when warding was a premium, but now with the new changes, everybody and their mother has sight stones.
Being a good support has less impact on the game than any of the other roles. That's why I hate playing support in ranked. I don't mind actually playing support, but in ranked I feel it gives me the lowest control over my game's outcome.
Just because you generally can't kill someone doesn't mean you have less impact. A good support can definitely win games. Besides winning bot lane and feeding your carry, supports can make a huge impact in team fights (which determines the game at least half the time). Initiation, saving a critical damage dealer, cc on the opposing critical person, a support turns tides.
It is one of the harder roles though so sometimes it can feel like you aren't making an impact. Supports need to have the most map awareness, know more about the team comps and who to protect, when to initiate, etc.
You should watch krepo play sometime.
PhillipCostigan
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I'd imagine the hidden elo takes into account the elo of your team and the elo of your opponents. You'll gain more for having a lower elo team but you should most likely lose less for a loss.
Supports are now encouraged more than ever to pink ward and deny as much vision as they provide.
Also they have to time and guarantee control over key objectives, they have key roles in teamfights, they have the obligation to get their ADCs fed in the laning phase, etc.
Supports carry harder than they seem.
I take it back. Nice Thresh plays though Corgi.
Your Jayce is worse than your Garen.
I played around 12xx-13xx so far in the past couple of months and not everyone gets a sightstone, in fact, generally no one but the jungler (maybe) and support (pretty much always) gets one. I am still yelled at to ward more :<
Can't say I agree. Using E is quite addictive, like popping bubble wrap but even moreso. Plus the ult is even more Jesus-Beamish than before.
Haha what? In ranked 1600 and even in GAF premades I only see a quarter of the map at any given time.
All roles impact the game more or less equally. I find support to be the core of bot lane and deciding factor in whether or not your adc is relevant when it's his turn to shine.
Nah... you misunderstand. I never said good supports have no impact, I'm just saying they have less than the other roles. A good support will indeed provide a lot to a team, but if your adc is lacking, it doesn't matter. I have won lanes as adc despite bad support. On the other hand I can play amazing support and still lose the lane.
It's funny you should mention Krepo. Some fans were asking on his stream why his elo was so low, and he basically said what I'm saying. It's hard to carry a bad team as support... It's easier as a top, mid, jungle, or ADC.
I meant every support buys one.. not everyone.
That's why they increased the price this patch.
We lose vision as the game goes on. It's a depreciation of vision. LOL.
I try to ward all-game regardless of role. It's around when I hit full-build that I really drop the ball on wards. Then again, at that point, the amount of wards we need tends to go down buty it's still a bad habit.
Bot lane is like 70% the Support, not the ADC really. Of course, a good ADC can punish a bad bot lane in general and a lot of lower Elo games have "stuck with Support" players that don't know the lane dynamic and just ... do nothing.
It's easier to carry in the other roles, Support just makes it easier for the carries to carry. They create opportunities and increase the chances of things going well but it's still up to the carries to take them.
Slightly Live
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Been carrying teams all day. My back is damm sore.
Why does nobody ever seem to use wards? Ugh. Hate being the only one on the team putting them down.
Why does nobody ever seem to use wards? Ugh. Hate being the only one on the team putting them down.
PhillipCostigan
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Case in point:
Like what do I do with this shit? A Nasus who gives out to me and just farms and feeds, a bot lane that feeds Jayce and Malphite, Nasus and Garen feed Brand. How do I keep ending up with these teams?
I've got 3 wins and 4 defeats in my match history and I only played bad once, a game where I was playing Syndra for the first time.
I have to carry everyone. It's awful. Sure, that one was only a normal but it's indicative of what's happened to me constantly.
Like what do I do with this shit? A Nasus who gives out to me and just farms and feeds, a bot lane that feeds Jayce and Malphite, Nasus and Garen feed Brand. How do I keep ending up with these teams?
I've got 3 wins and 4 defeats in my match history and I only played bad once, a game where I was playing Syndra for the first time.
I have to carry everyone. It's awful. Sure, that one was only a normal but it's indicative of what's happened to me constantly.
Pretty much. Get better at carrying. Find faults in your play and just work on it. Don't focus so much on your team.
Get Lux in an ARAM.
Buy skin.
;_;
Slightly Live
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Get my ADC super fed.
Still lose, yay. In his defense, Singed and Kennen were quite awful at teamfighting and getting caught a lot.
Oh well.
I know that feel.
Slightly Live
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I was just grinding IP to unlock Xin on my NA account.
Finally got him. Plus, reached level 26. Only a thousand more games until I can play ranked on this account!
Get my ADC super fed.
Still lose, yay. In his defense, Singed and Kennen were quite awful at teamfighting and getting caught a lot.
Oh well.
Well being fed means you do something good with the money. That is a pretty rough ez build.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
I'm just trying to follow the wings philosophy of not really giving a shit about a videogame but god damn. I have not seen players this awful since leveling up to 30.
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