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It's absolutely laughable how quickly you can stack Tear on Sona. Presume Udyr is the same?
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you must have stacked it as ryze? I think it's harder to not max it as him
I've run out of mana as Singed with a tear....
Well, keep in mind for Tear that you really shouldn't be buying it on every AP. That said, if you're having trouble stacking it in a game, how long is the game going? And how late are you getting your Tear?
Ryze stacks it pretty slowly, actually, since he doesn't have anything on a low cooldown that can be cast without a target. At least, it's slow for awhile when his mana costs are actually a little prohibitive for him. Eventually, you can just Q whenever and get it going really fast and you're just limited to the Tear cooldown time.
If you're good at it, you can always AA+Q to get the Tear gain without actually casting the Q so you save yourself the mana. If nothing else, it's a good habit to try to get into if you play a lot of Ryze.
Ryze stacks it pretty slowly, actually, since he doesn't have anything on a low cooldown that can be cast without a target. At least, it's slow for awhile when his mana costs are actually a little prohibitive for him. Eventually, you can just Q whenever and get it going really fast and you're just limited to the Tear cooldown time.
If you're good at it, you can always AA+Q to get the Tear gain without actually casting the Q so you save yourself the mana. If nothing else, it's a good habit to try to get into if you play a lot of Ryze.
Schmattakopf
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If you cast a spell right as something is dying it will set off your tear without using the spell.
tbh nowadays I start faerie charm+3 blues+3 reds+1 ward and I almost never really run into mana problems, unless I overstay in lane way too much.
against panth I guess I'd start with armor+5 reds tho
I'm not a big fan of DPS anivia, I like her bursty. also buying a catalyst that late kinda feels like a waste of its passive.
I get the tear maxed out between the 25 and 30 min mark on lux, and then usually build seraphs after void staff. I'll maybe build it earlier if I feel I need the shield or if they have absolutely no MR. but usually matches end before I need to upgrade it.
you shouldn't always buy tear as your first item, tho. if you're laning against a ad assassin, you should go seeker's armguard or something like that, if you're against an ap assassin chalice, etc.
tear is kinda cool because it's cheap but you're spending 700g on solving your mana issues, and running out of mana isn't really a problem if you're getting bursted 100-0 as soon as you step in lane.
right now my path for lux is start faerie charm+3 blues+3 reds+1 ward and buy tear, kage, needlessly large rod, sorc shoes, deathcap, morello, void staff, seraphs.
didn't really like buying haunting guise, but that's just me. tear's grown on me a bit, mostly because it's dirt cheap. I still think mana is less of an issue with chalice since it gives you the full effect the moment you buy it but it's alright.
really? I tried it once on my AD sona and felt like it took forever
ask nicely? against a thresh it's common sense to ward the lane brushes but you know.
also if you're playing adc with strangers, you might want to buy wards yourself. I dunno why the game has this dogma that adcs' money is sacred... just spend 75g on a ward so you can farm safely while splitpushing or ward the lane brush yourself. it's solo queue, it's adapt or die.
percephone
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is it so difficult to buy wards as ADC?
yeah I seriously don't get that, and when I play adc I feel the same way for whatever reason.
I mean mids need the money almost as much as adcs, yet I spend a minmum of 750g a match, why can't adcs buy like 3 wards a match?
You AA to last hit a minion, and just before it hits, you Q it - the animation will start (giving you tear stack) but because the spell is stopped due to dead target, you dont lose mana
I had an adc who bought a pink every time he went back. It was nice, but even though we were winning the lane he was behind the enemy ADC on items :/
Kane Zakharov
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Because I need to get my Infinity Edge. =D
On a more serious note, if a support has a ward and doesn't use it on the brush against someone like Thresh/Blitz/Leona, I get sad/angry/disappointed/etc.
Sr Kitsune
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All this Tear talk is interesing. I have yet to try it out with Ahri, but I don't think it will work...
This is how I build Ahri:
(I'm level 21)
Usually I start boots+3 pots, if I don't feel confident. If not I start with flask + 2 pots. I try to keep on lane 'till I have 1675 of gold, so I can buy Needlessly large rod + ward. Then DFG, then Sorcerer's, then Deathcap, Rylai's [to slow them with my W], Void Staff, and if I can, (usually the game ends before I can) Zhonya's.
At level 11 I usually try to get or steal blue buff.
This is how I build Ahri:
(I'm level 21)
Usually I start boots+3 pots, if I don't feel confident. If not I start with flask + 2 pots. I try to keep on lane 'till I have 1675 of gold, so I can buy Needlessly large rod + ward. Then DFG, then Sorcerer's, then Deathcap, Rylai's [to slow them with my W], Void Staff, and if I can, (usually the game ends before I can) Zhonya's.
At level 11 I usually try to get or steal blue buff.
Schmattakopf
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Oh I see, right. For some reason, I was thinking about how Manamune charges with AAs.
Any Ahri that doesnt buy an early (at least 2nd major item) Zhonyas makes me cry
there is nothing like an ahri that cant enter a team fight or gets blown up when she does. in an even game an early zhonyas lets you dive and assassinate key targets and get out, while more damage just allows you to poke at the front line harder or punish the dumb adc that was standing alone.
if youre ahead, sure you can kill the tanks pretty easy i guess, but if they have a stun or a burst champion I'd still get zhonyas
p.s. fk u kiunch
there is nothing like an ahri that cant enter a team fight or gets blown up when she does. in an even game an early zhonyas lets you dive and assassinate key targets and get out, while more damage just allows you to poke at the front line harder or punish the dumb adc that was standing alone.
if youre ahead, sure you can kill the tanks pretty easy i guess, but if they have a stun or a burst champion I'd still get zhonyas
p.s. fk u kiunch
As a main support, in high-ish level play, if you see the blitz/leona have a pink ward, it will be a wasted ward on that brush. Then again you can bait the pink if you have another pink. THE WARD WARS MAN, I'VE SEEN THINGS.
yeah you won't get away with that build at higher levels. gotta get you yourself some defensive blues and yellow runes, too.
as ahri I always liked to buy items like abyssal scepter and zhonya's for the mix of defensive and offensive stats, and also get a couple doran's rings early for the health+AP.
When I play adc, i always get one for the lane bushes whenever its possible. Vision in those bushes mean a win or lose situation.
However, most adcs run out of inventory space fast. You'd much rather an adc with pots than wards. Trust me.
Better quit GAF!
Get dunked, son.
Also, why are people still playing this? We have Archeblade to play! http://store.steampowered.com/app/207230/ Fun game, you guys should check it out.
I actually should play some LoL myself, been awhile.. damn other games.
Dunno what the game is but the name is cheesy
Game is cheesy and very... betay (alphay?) as fuck. Basically a mutliplayer beatem up, with skills. Uses the LoL type hero system.
Schmattakopf
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"Try to make a combo as many as you can. And do your special move!"
I main Lux and Ahri mid and I can't max it with either of them. I buy it first item unless I absolutely need something else first. I am constantly doing spells...I don't know why I can't get it higher. I think the closest I got was like 700 at about 35 or so minutes maybe? I bought the ArchAngel, ready to get it to a seraph but then we won -_-
I dont get zhonyas until my last item and I almost never have a problem. You shouldn't really be getting caught as Ahri, at least I don't. I zoom around the enemy team with my ult + w, charming and Qing from a distance. Much rather go my (situational) abyssal, rabadon, void/rylai build.
Sr Kitsune
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I'm going to cry a river.
I... just..., why...!
So close to do my first Pentakill... with my favorite champion... my Q was returning, just about to kill him... and Jarvan had to AA and do the killing blow... just.... so sad... sadface.
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I... just..., why...!
So close to do my first Pentakill... with my favorite champion... my Q was returning, just about to kill him... and Jarvan had to AA and do the killing blow... just.... so sad... sadface.
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my new top fails of the day submission: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV5iOfIfPZo&feature=youtu.be
dunk video was awesome if only because of the song
dunk video was awesome if only because of the song
my new top fails of the day submission: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV5iOfIfPZo&feature=youtu.be
dunk video was awesome if only because of the song
Not feeling it
you could zoom around or you could dive their adc and kill them and get out
PROGRAM_IX
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really? I tried it once on my AD sona and felt like it took forever
Well to be fair it was a bot game, and I was spamming crazily. But in that case I suppose it was laughable. Although I wasn't playing AD Sona.
30 minutes? That's one spell every 7 seconds.
...not that you should be buying a Tear on Ahri, to be honest.
It's not really about "not having problems" or anything like that. It's because Zhonya's lets you do certain things with Ahri that you can't do without it. Granted, it largely depends on how bad your opponents are on whether or not you need one, to be honest.
whyyy
it's informative too! it teaches the value of:
a) beware of level disadvantages, specially early on
b) minions pack a punch like you wouldn't believe
c) crazy sonas running magic pen runes will make you bleed :3
just checked a recent replay to see some stats. it's only one game so don't take it too seriously.
playing as lux, I got first blood, went back and bought tear at minute 6.18. by minute 27 (in which the game ended) the tear was at 580 mana, I had died twice (about 1 minute downtime) and it was a pretty action-heavy game (I had like 10 kills and 8 assists).
basically you should try to fill it around 20-25 minutes after you buy it, at least as lux. spam spells at fountain and while running to your lane (just cast your lower cost spell once or twice, tear's mana regen will sort it out for ya by the time you get to your lane). also spam like an idiot if you have blue buff.
I'm a tear newbie so I'm sure scy will tell you you should be spamming spells 0.49 miliseconds faster
edit: also is the cooldown on tear broken or something? or does it only work for sustained spells like anivia ult? because as lux I just go QWE at fountain and I get the full 12 mana I think.
I just noticed I really fucked up that math. 30 minutes would mean one spell every ~9.6 seconds.
wat
It "stacks" charges so you don't have to do it every 3 seconds. It's not that hard to max a Tear even for many ADs that like to get it (Kha'zix, Jayce). It's still an item you get for the eventual late game (~25-30m mark), however.
I'm a tear newbie so I'm sure scy will tell you you should be spamming spells 0.49 miliseconds faster
wat
It "stacks" charges so you don't have to do it every 3 seconds. It's not that hard to max a Tear even for many ADs that like to get it (Kha'zix, Jayce). It's still an item you get for the eventual late game (~25-30m mark), however.
No, you'll get 4 Mana after each spell casts. It's just not a hard set 3s internal cooldown, it has leeway so you can, say, cast two spells back-to-back and get +8 Mana rather than having to do it as spell, pause 3s, spell.
I'm not sure what the time frame is (e.g., can you always get +12 Mana every 10 seconds?) but I do know that it's not "You have to wait 3 seconds between spells always."
I'm not sure what the time frame is (e.g., can you always get +12 Mana every 10 seconds?) but I do know that it's not "You have to wait 3 seconds between spells always."
Not really. It used to indicate it in the tooltip. It was stated when they changed Tear that it still functions that way. As far as I know, Tear has almost always worked that way. It wouldn't be all that functional if it didn't.
Edit: I forgot how much fun Kha'zix was in ARAM. dat 15m Muramana (that never did anything ;_
Edit: I forgot how much fun Kha'zix was in ARAM. dat 15m Muramana (that never did anything ;_
SafeinSound
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4 Win IP boost for the 3.5 patch problems. Really glad they did something for the community about it.
Legato.Reborn-
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my new top fails of the day submission: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV5iOfIfPZo&feature=youtu.be
dunk video was awesome if only because of the song
funny, but take out the "cait dc rofl"
text usually makes it not funny for me unless you're birgrpall and flying around with mexican robots
Xisiqomelir
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I zoom around safely and get the ADC. Idk, works for me.
I do play mostly silver/gold so maybe the enemy just isn't good enough.
Anyway, I was under the impression that the tear had that 3s cooldown so I wouldn't spam spells just for the sake of it. Now that I know it's kind of broken, I should be able to fill it up faster.
Akinola
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Lane Akali Nerf.
Tigerdyr nuke OP
Huge Vayne buff.
Also, built in now.
Lane Akali Nerf.
Tigerdyr nuke OP
Huge Vayne buff.
Also, built in now.
ah, well, not in the mood of changing stuff up and didn't save the project file from vegas, but will see about it in the next video.
I added a few captions because I felt it was hard to tell when cait was getting dc or not.
it was actually a pretty funny match, you could tell cait was lagging all over the place but she did great anyways.
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prepare for top lane udyr again
tiger stance has always been true terror
now it will be physical damage terror
tiger stance has always been true terror
now it will be physical damage terror
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