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League of Legends |OT4| No Country for Old Karma
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Just saw this. Good thoughts. Honestly Elise was like that for the longest time. Great jungler and flying under the radar. Vi too. Eventually they catch on though and out comes the bans.
I'll play a couple games as her and tuck her into the stable next to Xin. Easy to play and effective with the right comp. Just playing the ARAM I felt comfortable with her kit. Frankly she's the reason we won 4v5. I'd lock down their entire team with a Q->ult->W->auto->E. Stunned, stunned, slowed with a big chunk of damage. Wouldn't be as easy to do that consistently in SR, but the power is there. It's why I used to ban her when she was popular lol.
davidpdong
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I prolly can't play tomorrow night, work stuff. But that's OK, I just make Gamma really mad anyway lull.
Sr Kitsune
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Oh hey, 1.9 patch made some changes in the names of some champions in LATAM servers.
Let's see...
Ahri was (Ahri, la raposa de nueve colas) "Ahri, the nine tailed fox", and now she's called... "Ahri, la Kumiho Ancestral" (Ahri, the Ancestral Kumiho)[?]
Riot, wat r u doing, riot, stahp.
Now, seriously, how hard could it be to leave the name as "Ahri, la zorra de nueve colas"(Ahri, the nine tailed fox)?
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(Honestly, I do think it's better than "raposa".)
Let's see...
Ahri was (Ahri, la raposa de nueve colas) "Ahri, the nine tailed fox", and now she's called... "Ahri, la Kumiho Ancestral" (Ahri, the Ancestral Kumiho)[?]
Riot, wat r u doing, riot, stahp.
Now, seriously, how hard could it be to leave the name as "Ahri, la zorra de nueve colas"(Ahri, the nine tailed fox)?
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(Honestly, I do think it's better than "raposa".)
Kane Zakharov
Banned
He's supposed to be an Attack Damage Carry.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Top laner, AP mid, jungler, support, assassin.
He's a pure dmg adc. Think of him as the opposite of Ashe.
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
My senses tell me he's going to be super OP at release. Pretty much Draven V2.0
PhillipCostigan
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I played him earlier on PBE. His burst is pretty sweet, and he feels super fun to play.
His combo of Q -> double AA -> W -> double AA -> AA x whatever (depending on how much you get out of the speed boost) is really damn strong.
I really hope they don't reduce his range to 525. Considering his Q (the long beam) is actually a targeted ability in tune with his 550 range, reducing his AA range would hurt that too.
His ult is really fun, although it will take some practice to get used to. If you hit someone with it for a while it does a lot of damage, although it can be blocked by minions so you have to be careful.
I also played new Yi, who's awesome. He feels like the best part of AP Yi to play, but one that actually makes use of all his skills and doesn't just heal an absurd amount. Also his ult cooldown not refreshing on kills means it isn't quite as obnoxious any more.
His new animations and effects are great. I especially love the Highlander running animation and the Meditate animation.
I only got to play with him until like level 12 because my power cut Q_Q
Scy will tell ya, he looks pretty fucking cool.
His combo of Q -> double AA -> W -> double AA -> AA x whatever (depending on how much you get out of the speed boost) is really damn strong.
I really hope they don't reduce his range to 525. Considering his Q (the long beam) is actually a targeted ability in tune with his 550 range, reducing his AA range would hurt that too.
His ult is really fun, although it will take some practice to get used to. If you hit someone with it for a while it does a lot of damage, although it can be blocked by minions so you have to be careful.
I also played new Yi, who's awesome. He feels like the best part of AP Yi to play, but one that actually makes use of all his skills and doesn't just heal an absurd amount. Also his ult cooldown not refreshing on kills means it isn't quite as obnoxious any more.
His new animations and effects are great. I especially love the Highlander running animation and the Meditate animation.
I only got to play with him until like level 12 because my power cut Q_Q
Scy will tell ya, he looks pretty fucking cool.
I don't know about all that. NA and to a large extent EU junglers are still stuck in the S2 mindset. It's true that Riot's changes have dissuaded the use of what people consider "carry junglers" but I think a large part of it is players being unable to shake what they're used to, even when those same players complain about it. Even pro players have trouble getting away from the S2 support jungler meta. I'd buy Saint's argument more if at the start of S3 junglers were coming out with Cleavers, Rabadon's, BTs and now they're forced into support items. But that didn't happen at all. They've been buying support or tank items from the get go.
Frankly, I have a hard time thinking of a jungle nerf that wasn't warranted, at least in theory. Vi, Jarvan, Hec, Xin,etc. - they were OP.
It's a tough balancing act. It's not practical to have junglers receive anything resembling lane gold or XP because they aren't exposing themselves to the opposing team as much as the laners. And unless you're getting laning levels of gold, high priced damage items like Infinity Edge, Rabadon's, and BT are just not going to happen. Then there's the players, lots of whom have an unreasonable expectation of exactly what a "carry jungler" entails. I dunno myself, but even with all the people complaining I saw DiamondProx carry with Tiger Udyr last weekend, though lots of people would argue he did nothing of the sort because "carry jungler" is something different for everyone.
My own personal thought is that junglers do need more gold, and hunter machete's and item built out of it could be used as a gate to ensure laners don't abuse jungle items.
they can't use "zorra" since it's basically calling her for the slut she is
the kumiho thingie isn't so bad, though I had grown fond of raposa lol
I'll want to jungle Yi now that he'll still have that burst built AD. I've always found him fun to play but never really found a role I liked him in personally.
PhillipCostigan
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He feels great now, even the new effects and sound son Alpha Strike are so much more satisfying. Riot really did a great job with him.
He'll be a good mid and an ok jungler I reckon.
Honestly he feels more OP than Lucian does at the moment.
Like, maybe Lucian is a little over-tuned, although it's hard to tell from a bot game, but Yi felt much stronger imo.
Oh, and when Yi has blue buff, and with Alpha Strike's cooldown getting reduced by a second after each basic attack, it's like always up. It's kinda disgusting.
He'll be a good mid and an ok jungler I reckon.
Honestly he feels more OP than Lucian does at the moment.
Like, maybe Lucian is a little over-tuned, although it's hard to tell from a bot game, but Yi felt much stronger imo.
Oh, and when Yi has blue buff, and with Alpha Strike's cooldown getting reduced by a second after each basic attack, it's like always up. It's kinda disgusting.
PhillipCostigan
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Spirit Visage is only really all that useful if they have like a double or triple AP comp, and since he doesn't really have any regenerative effects other than the lifesteal you'd be building on him it's kinda situational, although if new Spirit Visage ever makes it onto live without having its cost nerf I guess I could see it. Although new Banshee's may even be a better fit. Maybe even that new AD/MR item that builds from Hexdrinker, as that would mean you don't need merc treads as it gives tenacity.
I'd wager J4 benefits more from a Brutalizer in to Black Cleaver later than an Elder Lizard.
She's way down in their pipeline, they've already said (unfortunately)
But yeah, I would like to see them tidy her kit up a bit. Like Yi had more problems than her (people ignored his original purpose entirely and built AP).
Coincidentally, melee ADCs are no longer classified as carries on the client on the PBE. Yi is now an assassin, while Fiora and GP are now fighters.
http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/...5-ways-to-lose-a-game-with-google-spreadsheet
this is actually a pretty good article
specially the part of "jungler doing wraiths while mid tower's getting wrecked by enemy tf".
stupid junglers
this is actually a pretty good article
specially the part of "jungler doing wraiths while mid tower's getting wrecked by enemy tf".
stupid junglers
Sr Kitsune
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Relevant (Last paragraph)
To be honest, I play most of the time with the client in english, so isn't really an issue(for me) at all.
lol wtf at that riot dude
I play the game at english since for some reason they messed up lux's laugh real bad. like, her portuguese version was really good, and even the regular spanish version, but well...
I like raposa, it's a word none of my friends had ever heard and we get a laugh out of it every time
PhillipCostigan
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Alright, I'm going to stop posting for a bit after this (kinda spamming) but Lucian's having some numbers nerfed next PBE patch:
Q: Mana cost currently 50-70, will be increased to 60-80 next patch.
W: Bonus AD scaling to be reduced from 0.8 to 0.6 next patch. MS amount currently 40-60, possibly going down to 40 flat next patch.
R: Ap scaling to be reduced from 0.4 to 0.3 and AD scaling to be reduced from 0.33 to 0.3 next patch.
Those are actually big hits to his power :/
Source.
Q: Mana cost currently 50-70, will be increased to 60-80 next patch.
W: Bonus AD scaling to be reduced from 0.8 to 0.6 next patch. MS amount currently 40-60, possibly going down to 40 flat next patch.
R: Ap scaling to be reduced from 0.4 to 0.3 and AD scaling to be reduced from 0.33 to 0.3 next patch.
Those are actually big hits to his power :/
Source.
He's not gonna be the new Draven :C.
ftfy
"45 Ways to Lose a Game"
http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/...5-ways-to-lose-a-game-with-google-spreadsheet
http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/...5-ways-to-lose-a-game-with-google-spreadsheet
he looks like a cartoon character. I mean, he's okay the way he is, but yi was fine beforehand as well.
this article sucks. you don't fight fiddle with an interrupt.
yi is getting a kit rework on top of his visual update. there are other champions that need to be prioritized for both visual updates as well as complete overhauls.
I think he meant vu
but I think panth needs a slight rework, not as drastic as yi, but just a few changes to make him less annoying against bad players (seriously I lose my lane at top 90% of the times with elise, but with panth it's just the other way around, just spam q and melt people at level 3) and adding a bit more depth to his kit or something.
true but the rest of the article is actually good, if a bit obvious
pantheon model is not even close to being the worst. way too many champions that need visual overhauls before him. If it's that big of an issue for someone just buy Glaive Warrior.
yo look at this stealth riot pr guy
yi wasn't the worst either but they did him anyways
imo the visual problem with panth has to do with him not really having a original identity, he's just some random spartan dude.
I feel like it's good for people who like to play the blame game, but don't include themselves.
yo O3fish
welcome back man
you got fooled
carry junglers just cant exist in the game. not only does it not make sense to allow 0 game interaction and get ridiculously powerful, but by optimisation, division of resources will favour somebody else
they existed in s1 and early s2 because people didnt realise that hey, we can farm the jungle too!
hes not allowed to
his kit is actually decent late game
dont listen to the haters
ashe is fearsome, your team just needs to understand what she does
she needs your team to draw out the fight, so tell them to stop rushing in like madmen and instead, play intelligently and disengage and reengage consantly, because ashe slow allows you to do that.
dude is known for pizza feet.
something to be proud of
i only want to play wow to recreate that bandit waifu boss
Mister Negative
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when I bought Pantheon I thought I was in store for something really badass and special, but like someone else already said, he looks like a cartoon character. He deserves a VU. Not as much as some other champs, but he definitely should be on the list.
On another note, nothing has made me feel more like a pro than playing Riven against a bunch of bots. Holy moly.
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