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I'm not entirely sure about the whistling but the dance animation is from Singing in the Rain.
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League of Legends |OT4| No Country for Old Karma
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I'm not entirely sure about the whistling but the dance animation is from Singing in the Rain.
probably.
That's not a bug though. The slow builds stacks to proc a stun. If he can't be slowed he can't be stunned. Yi is immune to other stuff too because of this. Wither's attack speed debuff will not apply to him during Highlander because of his immunity.
Wolf Akela
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Yi is immune to ASPD debuffs that is attached to the movement speed slow. Wither, Ice Blast, etc doesn't debuff his ASPD. Randuin, Exhaust, etc works because the ASPD debuff is separate from the MS debuff.
Oh that's how it works? I thought if you just stood in it for a certain amount of time you were stunned. nvm.
Something is very wrong with this matchmaking system.
(my CS was crap because we were pushed to all their inhib turrets at like 20 minutes)
Err what do you mean? Silver 1 are basically gold v
And results mean nothing, games can snowball really easily.
True, but it's just kinda strange how your division means nothing. It just seems counter intuitive to me to have mmr mean everything, despite it being invisible. I didn't have LoL during season 2, but this elo system seems to make a lot more sense.
It sets up short and long term goals and is a general indicator of where someone is at. It's also prevented lots of dodging.
division doesnt mean nothing (unless you are in div V). its still an indicator of your skill, its just designed to respond slower to make your position fluctuate less
mmr means everything in terms of matchmaking, because it is the matchmaking rating...
but it doesnt mean "everything" - in terms of your true skill since bad streaks make it go crazy
It will be all better...
So why is jungle so useless? Decent wards you can easily get countered so bot lane is protected even with top. Flash and semi decent positioiing make it so easy to stop ganks. I love the 2 limit wards in Dota much more now. Jarvan is honestly the only person worth jungling with.
wards cover less space and for less time in league
you need good laners to tell you when wards are plopped, and sneak in when they time out or just pay attention to a laner leaving lane and which side they go to guess ward timing
lane ganks are also much much more potent in league because bushes and people dont ward lane until mid plat or something
also: play eve
you need good laners to tell you when wards are plopped, and sneak in when they time out or just pay attention to a laner leaving lane and which side they go to guess ward timing
lane ganks are also much much more potent in league because bushes and people dont ward lane until mid plat or something
also: play eve
Mister Negative
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And even if you walk through a ward, you're still creating pressure on a lane, and it will help your laner get a CS advantage.
Acerac
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You're not the only one.
Support legendary AND it's goofy? I could not be happier.
Seriously, this is insane. It is unreal how easy early ganks are at whatever shit MMR I'm at.
Some champions like, Hecarim, Rammus, and Eve can simply ignore wards. Others can watch when the ward is placed so they know when it runs out, and gank then. Or they can buy a pink, or the laner can buy a pink, or if the jungler is doing well enough they can buy an oracles. Or you can gank through tribush if river is warded. Or you can gank through the lane bush if tribush and river are warded.
Wolf Akela
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Jungler's presence alone creates pressure on the lane.
If the enemy has absolutely no jungler you can keep shoving the lane without repercussion if you want. You deny them CS by making them lose creeps to the tower, and you can quickly take down the tower to do objectives. Your jungler is free to bully other lanes.
If the enemy has absolutely no jungler you can keep shoving the lane without repercussion if you want. You deny them CS by making them lose creeps to the tower, and you can quickly take down the tower to do objectives. Your jungler is free to bully other lanes.
Sr Kitsune
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I learned the hard way why you should start red if you suspect an invade, lol.
I was Naut and the other jungler was Jax, I knew he was going to invade my red, but I made the mistake of still starting with my blue, and I was going to my red [I was in blue side], and I was thinking about pinging red for help and make my bot lane come and help me, when I saw our tristana gave first blood to the enemy vayne, I check the bush and I was not so surprised when I saw Jax there, and I was like, whatever, I flashed over the wall and did golems, thinking that hopefully it won't end too bad...
... yeah.
Still, experience is experience. Hopefully I'll improve and don't make the same mistakes.
Also I hate blind pick. If I haven't stated that before.
I was Naut and the other jungler was Jax, I knew he was going to invade my red, but I made the mistake of still starting with my blue, and I was going to my red [I was in blue side], and I was thinking about pinging red for help and make my bot lane come and help me, when I saw our tristana gave first blood to the enemy vayne, I check the bush and I was not so surprised when I saw Jax there, and I was like, whatever, I flashed over the wall and did golems, thinking that hopefully it won't end too bad...
... yeah.
Still, experience is experience. Hopefully I'll improve and don't make the same mistakes.
Also I hate blind pick. If I haven't stated that before.
Not always true (I'd even go so far as to say generally not true) and you can really screw over your other lanes doing this.
Let's say you notice that bot lane is having a bit of trouble so you go down there, just to show your presence and relieve pressure. So now you're on the minimap. Guess what you've just done in exchange for a bit of pressure? Enemy mid and top know they can go aggressive - very dangerous if they have a lead on your own laners - and the enemy jungler knows he can take one of your buffs or do an all-in gank on one of your lanes because the odds of getting baited into a countergank are close to zero. So to give bot lane a bit of breathing room, you may have just sacrificed an entire lane, a blue buff, or a tower.
Keep it simple. Once you decide to gank a lane, to your best to secure a kill. That'll scare every other lane and you won't even have to show your face.
Mister Negative
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You're completely right. Thanks for the correction/lesson!
Jungling takes patience and takes a lot of practice to get right. It seems like you're stuck in a mindset of "i must gank and get kills to do well". It is so very wrong. You apply pressure to the map and control objectives. Junglers give or take leads in a lane through pressure. If laners see you approaching, they back the hell off and lose cs and exp. You just gave your laner a small lead which can snowball them.
There's also the mechanic of Counter ganking. It is possibly the hardest thing to do as a jungler.
It isn't just about you coincidentally being in the lane to protect your laner when they are getting ganked or you being in the lane when you see the enemy jungler waiting in a warded bush.
It involves you being near the lane to help out when the enemy jungler is about to gank. This is a pretty difficult skill to get right as you need to memorise jungle timers for buffs (hence predicting the lane where the enemy jungler will gank or pressure next), predict whether the enemies will give up buffs for ganks and shutdowns and reading the mini map and your laner's positioning.
E.g. The game timer is 7;10. The enemy jungler's second round of buffs is spawning right now or in the next 5 seconds. You ask yourself 3 things:
1. Are you able to counter jungle them and smite steal? To do this, read where the 2 mid laners are. They are the most influential in all counter jungling plays for the second and third round of buffs.
2. Do you think the jungler will neglect his second buff to gank a nearby lane who is being pressured? If so, you either ping the incoming gank for your team and head towards the enemy's second buff while reading the position of both mid laners OR you go to the lane you think he is going to gank and wait.
3. Are you able to gank a lane at the opposite side of the map or help in pushing down a tower.
You will get many of these predictions wrong when you start out but you will learn to start making the correct choices in many of the situations.
You can't call the jungle useless because from what you said, it seems like you are very inexperienced at it.
SK T1 v Jin Air Falcons: http://www.twitch.tv/ongamenet
SKT1 are a rising star team in the Korean Scene, Jin Air Falcons features a very well respected reapered.
I dont expect this to be as competitive as CJ Blaze v KTB, but reapered is known as an amazing theorycrafter, and may show us something great.
Plus, montecristo and doa!
SKT1 are a rising star team in the Korean Scene, Jin Air Falcons features a very well respected reapered.
I dont expect this to be as competitive as CJ Blaze v KTB, but reapered is known as an amazing theorycrafter, and may show us something great.
Plus, montecristo and doa!
AzureSkies
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As someone who doesn't play as a jungler too often, I'd just like to say that your post is a great aid that I'll be looking back on, you've seriously opened some new ways for me to think of how to play as a jungler.
Thanks!
Wolf Akela
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Footage of the local cosplay stuff for those with nothing to do.
1:24:30 = Monarch Kog
1:37:55 = Saddest/Cutest/Most pathetic Baron
1:39:15 = Classic Shyvana
1:53:15 = Classic Malphite
1:56:35 = Mecha Kha'Zix (evolving)
http://www.twitch.tv/garenaphesports/b/443499325
The particular Classic Cait was a no show. i cry evrytiem. At least I found more cosplay pics of her.
1:24:30 = Monarch Kog
1:37:55 = Saddest/Cutest/Most pathetic Baron
1:39:15 = Classic Shyvana
1:53:15 = Classic Malphite
1:56:35 = Mecha Kha'Zix (evolving)
http://www.twitch.tv/garenaphesports/b/443499325
The particular Classic Cait was a no show. i cry evrytiem. At least I found more cosplay pics of her.
I could jungle whoever I feel like pretty much. Ganking is about finding holes in ward coverage and knowing where to be.
I kind of just am lazy and do everything by feel now, but you need to understand which lanes are good to gank and when. What champions are gankable before six? Before four? Who bought wards? What routes can you take to avoid them? What sort of CC/chase/damage potential does the laner you are ganking for have?
Flash doesn't have to be a free escape. Account for it in your ganks. Flash after if you need to and can secure kills, or space yourself ahead of the enemy champion and save one form of CC.
Mister Negative
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Just played my first Singed game. Was gonna go riven, but the enemy picked a Teemo so I decided against it. It was weird. I felt like I didn't know what I was doing, but I won lane.
goes really poorly with vlad at this level of play.
He's just been picked in the OGN tournament.
Mister Negative
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Missed it
How does blind pick work in the OGN? is it just the same as normal blind pick or does it differ somehow? How do they prevent duplicate champs?
They don't.
Skarner changes continue to homogenize. Mana costs will be murderous. Skarner's E was never fun so it really sucks to see it being built up and becoming core to his kit.
If you suspect a possible red invade, ask your support to ward the bush in your red buff. The explorer ward is perfect for this. Drop it around 1:35-1:40. If you see their jungler in your red buff, just make a u-turn and head for theirs. Or if your laners are heads up, you can ambush him for first blood. Worst case, if you can run with less pots, you can grab your own ward.
The blind solo jungle red invade is so risky. Don't see it very often. Have to rely on the opponents not warding and be confident that you can out-smite/kill the opponent jungler without laners coming to kill you.
NA LCS in:
EU LCS in:
Stream: [Twitch.tv] | [Youtube] | [Azubu.tv]
LCS thread - [click]
LCS
[Crunch time!] - the importance of the superweek
A reminder that this week there will be a superweek (20 games per region).
- 1st-2nd will get byes to the semi finals in the world championship playoffs and will have to win only one match to make it to the world championships. 3rd-6th must playoff for a semifinal position.
In NA, Cloud 9 are a lock for 1st seed, 2nd seed is strongly in Vulcun's hands, unless they do absolutely abysmally. CLG, Curse, TSM, dig, Coast Vel will have to fight stay in the top 6, with two of them just going home.
In EU, everything is up for grabs - anybody can hit from 1-6, and it will be a mad grab for wins this week.
I'll update with charts showing top 6 positions as the week goes on.
World Championship Run-up
The playoffs around the world will showcase the best teams in their regions, and letting you familiarise yourself with eventual World Championship participants.
Playoffs
World Championships
Riot are going for the slow burn style with the World Championships, giving the teams time between brackets to prepare.
World Championship tickets will go on sale tomorrow on www.ticketmaster.com at August 15 at 12:00PM PDT / 21:00 CEST. (1 hour before tmrw's NA LCS) - [countdown]
note: culver sound studios range from 3000 square feet to 26000 square feet. Its unsure how much capacity riot has for the group stages, but I expect them to sell out FAST.
EU LCS in:
Stream: [Twitch.tv] | [Youtube] | [Azubu.tv]
LCS thread - [click]
LCS
[Crunch time!] - the importance of the superweek
A reminder that this week there will be a superweek (20 games per region).
- 1st-2nd will get byes to the semi finals in the world championship playoffs and will have to win only one match to make it to the world championships. 3rd-6th must playoff for a semifinal position.
In NA, Cloud 9 are a lock for 1st seed, 2nd seed is strongly in Vulcun's hands, unless they do absolutely abysmally. CLG, Curse, TSM, dig, Coast Vel will have to fight stay in the top 6, with two of them just going home.
In EU, everything is up for grabs - anybody can hit from 1-6, and it will be a mad grab for wins this week.
I'll update with charts showing top 6 positions as the week goes on.
World Championship Run-up
The playoffs around the world will showcase the best teams in their regions, and letting you familiarise yourself with eventual World Championship participants.
Playoffs
Code:
South East Asia Regional 17th August
International Wildcard ([I]Gamescom[/I]) 21-23th August
EU LCS ([I]Gamescom[/I]) 24-25th August
Taiwan Regional 29th August
Korean Circuit Points Position ([i]OGN Finals[/i]) 31st August
NA LCS ([i]PAX[/i]) 31-1st September
Korean Regional Finals 7th September
China LPL 8th September (?)World Championships
Riot are going for the slow burn style with the World Championships, giving the teams time between brackets to prepare.
Code:
Group Stage 15-21 September (2 groups, 10 teams, 40 games played)
Quarter Finals 23-24 Sept
Semi Finals 27-28 Sept
Grand Finals 4 OctoberWorld Championship tickets will go on sale tomorrow on www.ticketmaster.com at August 15 at 12:00PM PDT / 21:00 CEST. (1 hour before tmrw's NA LCS) - [countdown]
specific schedule: http://na.lolesports.com/season3/sp...hampionship-tickets-available-aug-15#schedule
note: culver sound studios range from 3000 square feet to 26000 square feet. Its unsure how much capacity riot has for the group stages, but I expect them to sell out FAST.
Oh cool, they added times. 6PM start for the finals so I guess we should be out of there by 11. That's not so bad.
Haven't been to LA since October, can't wait to hang out with friends and get some lunch at Langer's--which, btw, is where my screen name (Pastrami Reuben) comes from. Flight already booked, used my AmEx points to get the round trip from PHL to LAX for $56, aw yeah.
Haven't been to LA since October, can't wait to hang out with friends and get some lunch at Langer's--which, btw, is where my screen name (Pastrami Reuben) comes from. Flight already booked, used my AmEx points to get the round trip from PHL to LAX for $56, aw yeah.
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