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League of Legends |OT7| She Ezreal To Me, Dammit!
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Ghost is Bad
Banned
unfortunately it crossed mine.
damn u scoffa.
damn u scoffa.
Crab Milk Mickey
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I raise my eyebrow at the notion that Karma isn't cool, but somehow Zyra is. ZYRA.
Ghost is Bad
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zyra > karma
karma's a bitch.
karma's a bitch.
Nasus left alone for 60 minutes.
but that's single target DPS and he needs more than just one offensive item to do that
zyra can literally just have one mpen item and do so much aoe damage to a team that it's essentially cleanup afterwards
brand.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
veigar.
Okay 6 hours and only a Hydra.
Orochinagis
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Yordles save lifes confirmed
Haha o man
that's a good one, but requires too many "only if"s in the scenario. only if they're already on fire (for ult), only if you combo'd it correct for the extra damage.
zyra just seems like "oh hey 5 dudes chilling close to each other, PRESS RRRRRRRRRRRRR"
What's it with people still levelling and not wanting the end the game...
They don't listen to my lcs copied tactics either. I know I'm just the support but damn son, 68 minutes?
They don't listen to my lcs copied tactics either. I know I'm just the support but damn son, 68 minutes?
I ASKED FIRST
Just as annoying as ever. Grouped up? Ba-BOOM Shockwave goodnight OP GG
Sr Kitsune
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Maokai is so much fun to play.
PhillipCostigan
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also all his suggestions are pretty bad
one of them is even a giant nerf to a spell (exhaust) that is already situational.
PhillipCostigan
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he's not though
he wants other spells to be as good as flash so it's not a default choice
taking flash out of the game would be an awful idea
I thought you didn't go on reddit
Ghost is Bad
Banned
what about lmq tho.
Frankly, if I were to even consider rebalancing non-Flash summoner spells, I'd create "overpowered" versions of all of them first, and then tone down from there.
Barrier: Grant target damage immunity for 1.5s
Heal: Heal for X + Y% of their Max Health to all nearby allies. Y starts at 25% and is reduced by 5% for each target in addition to yourself.
Ghost: Unitwalking, +20% MS, +40% AS, +30% uncapped CDR for 7s
Cleanse: Remove all CC and grant CC immunity for 2.5s
Teleport: 2 seconds channel time, 180 second CD
Exhaust: Stun for 2s, short range skillshot, bypasses non-Champion units
Ignite: Instantaneous damage + vision for 5s
Smite: Quadruple gold for Smite kills
Clarity: Refresh all non-Ult spells
Revive: 300s CD
Flash is always good. Whether on offense or defense, at the start of a fight or at the end, whether teammates are alive or dead, Flash never stops being useful. Therefore, any narrower Summoner spell, to even have a chance of being "better" than Flash, must be so good that you're willing to trade Flash's versatility for it. They need to be overpowered in their niche, which none of the current spells are. They're all just plain weaker than Flash, regardless of mitigating circumstances.
Barrier: Grant target damage immunity for 1.5s
Heal: Heal for X + Y% of their Max Health to all nearby allies. Y starts at 25% and is reduced by 5% for each target in addition to yourself.
Ghost: Unitwalking, +20% MS, +40% AS, +30% uncapped CDR for 7s
Cleanse: Remove all CC and grant CC immunity for 2.5s
Teleport: 2 seconds channel time, 180 second CD
Exhaust: Stun for 2s, short range skillshot, bypasses non-Champion units
Ignite: Instantaneous damage + vision for 5s
Smite: Quadruple gold for Smite kills
Clarity: Refresh all non-Ult spells
Revive: 300s CD
Flash is always good. Whether on offense or defense, at the start of a fight or at the end, whether teammates are alive or dead, Flash never stops being useful. Therefore, any narrower Summoner spell, to even have a chance of being "better" than Flash, must be so good that you're willing to trade Flash's versatility for it. They need to be overpowered in their niche, which none of the current spells are. They're all just plain weaker than Flash, regardless of mitigating circumstances.
Probably still wouldn't be used lol
There's a pretty good argument that if Flash is the right choice in every situation (or even the right choice in 99% of situations) then you shouldn't have the option to choose something else. Either give everybody Flash and one more summoner or give everybody Flash and two more summoners
That said, Riot tends to give players as many opportunities as possible to make choices so that they can demonstrate knowledge. I'm just not sure that this is actually interesting knowledge. The situations where you might want to level abilities in an unusual way or buy an item that's not obviously useful for your champ are a lot more common than the situations where another summoner spell is a better choice than Flash.
That said, Riot tends to give players as many opportunities as possible to make choices so that they can demonstrate knowledge. I'm just not sure that this is actually interesting knowledge. The situations where you might want to level abilities in an unusual way or buy an item that's not obviously useful for your champ are a lot more common than the situations where another summoner spell is a better choice than Flash.
I don't think other summoners are that far from being as good as flash. However, I dunno if that'd be good for the game. I wouldn't want to deal with exhaust being a stun, or complete cc immunity from cleanse
Edit: what if they split the summoners into defensive and offensive summoners? And limited your choice to one so you couldn't have ADCs taking flash and heal and things like that?
Edit: what if they split the summoners into defensive and offensive summoners? And limited your choice to one so you couldn't have ADCs taking flash and heal and things like that?
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