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League of Legends |OT7| She Ezreal To Me, Dammit!
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AzureSkies
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Slowly getting out of the hell that is Bronze III.
Really enjoyable match, I died a few too many times but I felt that my wards helped a shit ton and our focus on objectives couldn't save them from turning the match around. Lissandra was pretty bad tho.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1498986513/49689623
Really enjoyable match, I died a few too many times but I felt that my wards helped a shit ton and our focus on objectives couldn't save them from turning the match around. Lissandra was pretty bad tho.
Cloudius12
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Might be able to hit Gold V this week. I'm at Silver 1 62 lp. Support all the way!
Orochinagis
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So ....Bronze Division 5 is the lowest or the upper rank from bronze?
Also Arcade MF will be given in PAX? If not I will buy her tomorrow
Also Arcade MF will be given in PAX? If not I will buy her tomorrow
If the last several years are anything to go by, PAX they'll have Arcade MF and Riot Kayle. Hoping I can snag a few.
Mister Negative
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I finished my internship and I've had a lot of time to play the past few days, but I kinda have no desire to play ranked, which sucks. A lot of teambuilder to practice braum.
Might try practicing ADC tomorrow since I know I need to get better at it.
Might try practicing ADC tomorrow since I know I need to get better at it.
WesternHeretic
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Bronze 5 is the lowest division you can possibly be in. It's 5>4>3>2>1 for Bronze>Silver>Gold>Plat>Diamond
Mister Negative
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I've seen lustboy play her once or twice on stream, I think
Tizoc
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Any tips on Supporting on rankeds? I tend to mainly just support and I haven't started doing rankeds, and I'm quite terrified. ._.
WesternHeretic
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Pray....
I honestly would not ask for support anything under gold. I've watched my friends who are bronze play and 95% of the ADC are just terrible.
You can be a plat level support, but you can't teach an ADC how to last hit, take advantageous trade, know when to freeze/push lanes, have map awareness that mid is mia or jungler probably bot.
AzureSkies
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I'd argue that in Bronze III at least, support is fun as hell because the enemy support is terrible most of the time.
KarneeKarnay
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I only really got good at the game by playing supports, I now main top lane for the most part, with Tanky/Sustain champs. Now I feel I've got relearn supp, because while I can dominate with a Taric, I find that most ADC don't know how to go all in. I feel I've got to start spoon feeding them kills...Better learn Leona.
Wouldn't know, I've never played in bronze before.
having a good support in low level games is huge. you can carry out of low level games on supports easily.
in other news, these swings
in other news, these swings
I disagree he is far from garbage if you know how to play him. His w does well even against tanks with it sucking health %, E will do a good amount of damage too, and a Q on the enemy team during a teamfight can straight up change the fight with that 2.5 silence.
To be honest I'd go something that wouldn't require for your ADC to have a brain bigger than a pea. Leona if they don't follow up your engage or if they have tunnel vision, it can get ugly. When I don't trust my ADC I play something like Annie. Great zoning potential with the pokes and deadly if left unchecked. Also super easy!
I leveled to 30 mostly with Leona and while it does work and it can be very effective, it can get really frustrating when they don't follow up, and then you're stuck with a kit that, albeit being good, if not followed up by your team will most likely get you killed. With Annie you can try to single out someone and end up making the next TF a 5v4.
I need to learn something at top, thinking of Ryze because of how simple'ish it is? So my friend says.
Sounds really scary. Not that I am anywhere Plat support mind you, but I get what you mean. ._.
Kotetsu534
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Hafu was regularly winning lanes in Diamond 1 as Zyra mid/support back when she played more. Unfortunately, she's essentially a Zyra one-trick pony.
AzureSkies
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I am done. There's nowhere to go up from here.
No jungler, Blitzcrank and Sion duo top.
That's bronze for you.
No jungler, Blitzcrank and Sion duo top.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1499199837/49689623
That's bronze for you.
You could say this about loads of Diamond players.
Tizoc
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While testing my net connection by playing against AI, Top was Shyvana+Blitzcrank in one game.
Stone Ocean
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Cait's entire build is wat. BoTRK Hurricane Reaver? What the fuck
Also what's up with all these Malz players the closer I get to plat? Seen more Malzahars in this past week than I've seen in the past 2 years..
Also what's up with all these Malz players the closer I get to plat? Seen more Malzahars in this past week than I've seen in the past 2 years..
That Caitlyn build. jc.
Malz is pretty decent when it comes to carrying games.
PhillipCostigan
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I think malz is pretty bad overall, but fuck if a fed Malz isn't terrifying. It's just getting there that's the problem for him.
I don't think his laning is that hard. He has a lot of tools for safe farming.
PhillipCostigan
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he's so easy to kill though. even if he's farming safe it's pretty easy to just melt him if you have a decent jungler.
Kotetsu534
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Learn champions with strong laning presence and dumpster your lanes with them (e.g. Nami, Sona, Leona, Zyra, Karma). You'll have to, because sometimes your AD will be clueless while your opponents have some understanding of how to trade. When you then get a decent AD, bot lane will likely go in your favour every time.
Focus on controlling vision. Keep a pink up after first/second base for the rest of the game in a useful spot. Get red trinket and clear out any vulnerable ward the other support drops. It shouldn't be too tough to ensure your team has more vision than the enemy team in low divisions, even if your team isn't helping much (unless your team is far behind).
Know when to engage and remember that you can bait harder than any other champion since your post-fight value is low (I have probably made more great sacrifical lamb Sona plays than Flash-Ults in the mid-game, as sad as it is). If your team is grouped and there's two enemies nearby, trade 1 for 2 if that's the only way to make your team take the kills.
Ping/call dragon when you see an opening and check timers on it and baron to plan your warding. Some low division junglers don't prioritise the neutral objectives and if you have one of them, no one else will if you don't. Ensure your team get dragon on spawn whenever you have a lead - your odds of victory jump up as your gold lead expands. Sometimes you'll have to ping a tower push even when it's blatantly obvious (e.g. their top laner ganks bottom with teleport, your top laner decides to base to buy a Giant's Belt, you ping him to push his lane hard).
Alternatively, learn how to play AD and win cause you deal massively more damage than the other guy all through the game with your superior positioning, build and mechanics, and don't bother with map awareness and teamwork (best option IMO!).
that's not how league of legends works.
Stone Ocean
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Malz is pretty rough to kill without the jungler. It's better to pick something like Ori and just powerfarm all day to keep Malz from trying to roam and eventually you'll just outscale him.
PhillipCostigan
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Tizoc
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A good malzahar can wreck you, I still have nightmares of that ability/ult of his stunning you and forcing all his AP into my champ's head...
Wouldn't BoRK be a better weapon on Olaf? I recall seeing it being the main weapon on Olaf in various matches.
It is the easiest way to reach Diamond after all.
Yes. You'll mostly want to go bork or sometimes just all tank on him but my team was really struggling early and I was snowballing. Between Shen on our team all over the map and Udyr split pushing on theirs laning phase ended really early so I wanted to go hydra to see if I could spread around a little more AD in teamfights since we really didn't have a lot to go on. Idk, it was fine I guess. I really only built it because I didn't expect us to win either way. I could sustain for days and my damage felt pretty good but it was harder to stick to people without my axes and Randuin's. I don't think it was the best idea but it was actually pretty fun.
Wolf Akela
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What do people not evolve on him anymore? I used to evolve R first then either Q or E.
Stone Ocean
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R evolution is useless.
Welcome to the East Coast club. You can try EUW too. You'll have a similar or better ping there.
What? You don't think 6 total seconds of stealth is good? Sure he doesnt' get the damage reduction anymore, but the stealth is potent. I'd only evolve W over R last if the team is lacking wave clear.
Stone Ocean
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W evolution increases the slow by a big amount. Extra stealth time doesn't mean much without the damage reduction.
Both are kinda shitty and either way you go you should be getting them last, but I don't see how R is that much better.
Both are kinda shitty and either way you go you should be getting them last, but I don't see how R is that much better.
All of his damage is loaded into his Q and passive procs now. Now that the W doesn't proc his passive, you'll rely a lot more on his ult for damage. His ult gives you an additional free passive proc. If your team is just really dying for CC or wave clear, or if you're really far behind, then evolving W may be worth it.It just doesn't provide as much overall. Evolved ult makes for easy escapes, easier to get into the back line in fights, and more damage output.
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You explained it well. It's good for solo queue.
In competitive team based play, evolving W for the increased slow and more AE damage is valuable. In solo queue, I'm picking Kha'zix as a carry jungler, not a support jungler.
It's the same reason I'd never evolve E first like competitive Kha'zix players would do. In solo queue I need to protect my jungle and secure kills. You're picking Kha'zix to carry the team in solo queue.
I'd do W if it was needed but in most cases I want to kill the enemy jungler over and over and for that I need Q.
Stone Ocean
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If we're talking solo queue I can definitely see the value in evolved R over W, yeah.
Personally I prefer the pick-off power W gives.
Personally I prefer the pick-off power W gives.
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