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League of Legends |OT7| She Ezreal To Me, Dammit!
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Mister Wilhelm
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It's all been downhill since the end of season 2. Games just got longer and less aggressive.
Yeah, but might as well give yourself the best chance and play your best role anyway.
My problem is that the pacing is the same throughout the whole game, and that there's only one way to win the game (fight). The relics are too few to make capping them a viable strategy when you're on the backfoot.
It feels like your team strategy is decided at champ select and then you spend 15 minutes executing that strategy. And so it lacks the parry/riposte react/proact style that we all know and love in SR.
IMO they should've made it Rounds based, which allows you to make different plays each round - e.g. 5 bot and rush enemy relic, then next round 5 mid and rush ascended - And the team with the highest points after 10 rounds wins.
IDK, Champions Summer Finals was pretty fun
Stone Ocean
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Stone Ocean
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Goodbye Talon's silence?
Goodbye Talon's silence.
Also I'm scared and excited for the Fiora changes.
Goodbye Talon's silence.
Also I'm scared and excited for the Fiora changes.
maybe if they removed the reset on talon q his burst would be slower and without the silence yo maybe able to flash out of it
prolly not, i bet most ppl max rake, i don't really know anything about talon.
i feel like overall he's very leblanc-y in that you're in range you die in ~1.5s or something and like lebonk proved that was all she had going for her so i don't see talon surviving nerfs
but again i dunno nothing about talon
prolly not, i bet most ppl max rake, i don't really know anything about talon.
i feel like overall he's very leblanc-y in that you're in range you die in ~1.5s or something and like lebonk proved that was all she had going for her so i don't see talon surviving nerfs
but again i dunno nothing about talon
Yeah, I'm scared they won't nerf her enough too.
Riot's blind eye on stuff like Amumu is kind of becoming annoying.
And Fiddle...and Rammus.
Stone Ocean
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With more counterplay beyond "buy Zhonya's" she can finally justify her raw power.
I just want to be able to take her mid and not get weird looks, damn it
They are all bad, but my problem with mummy specifically is this has late game scaling is immense, his early game isn't that bad, and his mid game is still strong.
I think you mean. Diamodia.
Same with Rammus though. Rammus probably even has a better early game than Amumu.
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I respect good Fiddle junglers though. And a good clear speed is kinda part of a good early game. Amumu late game is definitely better than Rammus'.
I think you mean. Diamodia.
Same with Rammus though. Rammus probably even has a better early game than Amumu.
I respect good Fiddle junglers though. And a good clear speed is kinda part of a good early game. Amumu late game is definitely better than Rammus'.
Stone Ocean
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Also Kha's evolved W getting nerfed again, lol
Rammus' late game is still extremely strong though. Also, I think Fiddle jungle takes less skill than you think it does.
Poor Khazix.
Viktor will be the new OP evolving duder. I mean, the new gravity field is crazy. Slow, stun and displace all in one!
gotta love how the high winrate champions are always so stupidI think you mean. Diamodia.
and it's been like that for like forever
so weird
good :>
Ok I'll try Fiddle jungle next ranked game :>
Most of the high winrate diamond champions are champions that have low counterplay. The top 4 is a good example (number 4 is Janna).
Fiddle, Mummy, and Rammus all have excellent early game clears.
Stop playing lee. His nerfs pushed into a place where you're either godly on him or you lose games because of your pick.
Unless you're willing to understand ALL jungle matchups against lee, don't play him. He has so many build paths and different roles in team comps, it's not a pick that you can just play without care and hope for the best.
You need to understand when it's right to fulfill the role as a straight out peeler, an assassin, a straight out counter jungler or a tanky dpser who sticks on carries. Don't play him and try to be all these things in one game. You ain't going nowhere if you play lee and don't understand him at all.
Jack of all trades, master of none
true for every elo
yeah
Well I was really only talking about Rammus, whom I don't think has a very good first clear.
Stone Ocean
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Amumu takes pretty much zero damage in his first clear.
Silver II promotion series time.
AP jungle amumu carried our asses. Vayne did well too, very aggressive. It got her killed a few times in lane, but she still stayed ahead.
Like a freaking suicide bomber.
Ya maybe I should, but I'm not bad at him as you think I am. That game the other night was "late night normals/aram" ferrio which means I'm inebriated in some way.
AP jungle amumu carried our asses. Vayne did well too, very aggressive. It got her killed a few times in lane, but she still stayed ahead.
Like a freaking suicide bomber.
Ya maybe I should, but I'm not bad at him as you think I am. That game the other night was "late night normals/aram" ferrio which means I'm inebriated in some way.
Wolf Akela
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I've played with a Vayne last night too. She was incredibly toxic but she was pulling off stunts. She wasn't even fed but I remember when she got caught in a 1v4 and took down two of them and escaped.
PhillipCostigan
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so they say they're gonna rework Fiora, then deprioritise her and then decide to nerf her
Forget everything about my defence of Riot's balancing. That's fucking ridiculous.
Forget everything about my defence of Riot's balancing. That's fucking ridiculous.
Well she is a piece of shit champ that can do well without any real skill. This is coming from someone who actually plays Fiora often.
Stone Ocean
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Maybe it's the rework since Soraka and Viktor are basically done now and they're the ones that kicked her off the schedule?
Even if that isn't the case, even more of a reason for them to rework her pronto since Riot doesn't want to Olaf champions any longer.
Draven. Sivir. MF.
Those are the two choices when a strong champion has a bad kit though.
1. Rework immediately
2. Nerf until rework is ready (de-prioritisation)
Nothing ridiculous about choice 2 - it might feel unfair if you're a hardcore Fiora main, but in the grander scheme of things its just the only choice available if the rework isn't done. It sounds like a minor nerf though, +2s cd on her super sticky Q or something probably.
Wait for Azir.
Guess who makes an excellent top laner?
PhillipCostigan
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"Between 4.17 and 4.18 you can expect some small changes to champs like Akali, Talon, Yasuo, and Fiora (oh man Fiora)"
Nope. Small changes. It's fucking absurd how basically since not long after she was released they spoke about reworking her and have yet to commit to it. There were good signs when Guinsoo came back but they've dropped that since then.
It's so ridiculous that it's gotten to this point. It's a massive failure on their part that this is what it has come to.
I think he can be a really strong support against the right matchup.
PhillipCostigan
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It's ridiculous because they've pussyfooted around for so long. In the mean time champions that have come out long after her and long after they decided they needed to rework her have gotten their own reworks. Lucian, Rengar etc. being the obvious examples. Meanwhile they keep up this non-committal bullshit that's leading to her getting nerfed instead of properly addressed.
Plat is too dumb.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1537298961/37582062
Game doesn't even make sense. The only way to win with a 1-11 WW is for them to have a Galio double mid.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1537298961/37582062
Game doesn't even make sense. The only way to win with a 1-11 WW is for them to have a Galio double mid.
Stone Ocean
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What's there to change about her kit to add counterplay though?
If they're indeed small changes all I can imagine is straight up number nerfs.
If they're indeed small changes all I can imagine is straight up number nerfs.
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