FOCUS ADC is in many cases the best way of seeing who is bronze in heart.
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FOCUS ADC is in many cases the best way of seeing who is bronze in heart.
I'm trying to improve my own attitude, and I used to never mute players. Recently I've just started muting anyone that starts freaking out, complaining, or saying negative stuff. Maybe they keep doing it the rest of the game, but at least it's less distracting to mute. I then just try to focus on playing, using pings to communicate, and watching the map.
Ghost is Bad
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focus adc is a tactic made for bronze dumbasses.
Never focusing an ADC in a teamfight, especially if it's late game or the ADC is fed, can also be a bad idea however. It seems like it often happens that tanks are focused down, and someone like Jinx or Tristana can pick up the quadrakill cleanup and then kill towers for dessert.
SenorArdilla
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I was under the impression that you focused on killing whoever is closest and that usually turns out to be the tank.
Kotetsu534
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Yes, going the safe route all the time is the wrong approach, but, on average, it has much better outcomes than diving the backline every fight as a squishy (which is much more common in low ELOs than the opposite). As you get better, you'll learn when you need to make a huge play by flash-bursting the Trist/Kog/Vayne killing everyone since you, as Corki/Graves/Ez, can never keep up with their damage and your tanks can't control them any longer.
PhillipCostigan
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I have so many reasons to add to the "why I don't like Dob" list
guy sucks
guy sucks
kappa
If the adc is dumb enough to come in my face, sure, lets do this. if not, however? Trists that just pick up the damaged ones are the good ones. You cant go looking for trists when 4 people are between you and her
But your idea about muting such negative voices should be considered by me as well. Problem is: when I get flamed, my performance DOES go down
What I love about Dobke is that I can play any game with him and in the post game private chat, he will be able to reason out why I specifically lost them the game. Nevermind his performance or the teammates, it always boil down to my mistakes.*
*even if we have the same death count
No hard feelings, losses are still losses, funsies
*even if we have the same death count
No hard feelings, losses are still losses, funsies
if you get into auto range of kat she can shunpo into you and proc q mark and w. she can dodge lissandra q with shunpo and then at best you can w in for some damage, but now you've spent roughly half your mana and still lost health while she has more potions than you and probably went ok on the trade thanks to dmg reduction. she even gets ms from w so she can walk away faster and you just less autos off. she's also 21/9/0 which makes her tankier, specially against autos
she'll look for those kind of trades often until you have no more potions and you can't afford to trade anymore, be it because of mana or because of health.
and i guess those would be nice moments to gank her but doesn't depend on you. any other situation she can just shunpo out. she even starts boots.
i think the problem in that situation is not really a focus one
if a fight started and you're not in position to kill the kog, chances are you already lost. against teams like that you should usually try and get the vi ult on him but only if there's someone on your team capable of following up.
people that go on their own and expect the syndra or graves or whatever to ignore the frontline and go kill the kog that's shooting from like 800 range are the ones costing their team the game.
you need to get a good catch if you don't have an assassin or like an irelia that can ignore cc and go kill the adc, and even then you'll probably need to do it super quick since you're essentially exposing your carries since they'll have no peel but the support.
it's a good thing tho to call out targets during teamfights if you're like on teamspeak or something.
More accurate to say that you should focus whoever is the highest priority target in range without giving up good positioning. "Stop hitting the tank" and "target whomever's closest" can be equally dumb statements.
Kotetsu534
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If the adc is dumb enough to come in my face, sure, lets do this. if not, however? Trists that just pick up the damaged ones are the good ones. You cant go looking for trists when 4 people are between you and her
Broadly speaking, this is good teamfighting and it's what you do. But if you're 50 minutes in against a full build Jinx as Corki, all other things being equal, good teamfighting isn't going to be enough - Jinx must die, or be zoned. She will kill your frontline well before you kill theirs. If you can trade 1 for 1, you should probably do it. If you think you have a good chance of getting her down by Valking in for a Q->R->Sheen proc with Gatling going, you probably have to go for it.
The other option is not to teamfight at all and look for a crucial pick (good idea against Jinx, not so good against Tristana since she's so hard to lock down).
That said, good teamfighting will get you a long way as an AD carry - get the DPS down, don't die, use your summoners and escapes properly, build correctly, show up (amazing how often ADs are AWOL at red buff at the most important teamfight of the game) and you will rise in ELO, and fast.
Dobkeratops
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unbiased opinion here, i think dobe is a cool guy ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I'm going to need a top 10 reasons to buy this counterargument.
50 shades of Dobkeratops? I'd watch it
Terbinator
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The Dog just racially abuses me in chat all the time
PhillipCostigan
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The Dog just racially abuses me in chat all the time
he's Spanish, what else would you expect
Terbinator
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That explains why he's bad then.
Ghost is Bad
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dats racist yo
bronze dps calculations.
PhillipCostigan
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OH BOY
bizarre nerfs
new dfg:
i'm guessing ap is 120 and ms is like 8%?
seems awesome and possibly broken
big nerf to janna too, wow
this patch...
PhillipCostigan
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holy shit jarvan got murdered
Ghost is Bad
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good fuck j4.
Lissandra hoooooo
Ghost is Bad
Banned
ur forgetting a certain blu champ.
And I'm going to hate LeBlanc even more now. That's going to improve her team fight ability and her assassinate ability. Heck, all of the AP assassins are going to love that.
Riot, please.
i'm not sure about these items being super healthy for the game tbh
i don't think movement speed should be a stat mages should get too much access to
i think it's a really bad nerf
i don't think movement speed should be a stat mages should get too much access to
yup, and i'm guessing without that passive he's now got the kit of an early game assassin?
i think it's a really bad nerf
I'm going to continue to believe that Riot deleted him until I see him in a game.
Ghost is Bad
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also wtf that zephyr buff is crazy.
Lone_Prodigy
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Is that a Kat nerf? I would think after 3 seconds if a champ dies it still counts as an assist. So if like her target gets away and then gets Jinx ulted 5 seconds later she gets an assist but no passive proc?
Looks like Janna got faster at the expense of her teammates.
Looks like Janna got faster at the expense of her teammates.
yup, it works exactly like jinx passive, she gets the assist no matter what, but the reset is conditional on her participating in the kill just before it happened.
i don't think that's too much of a nerf, as i don't think it made all that much of a difference for jinx, but i might be wrong.
yeah, her passive was pretty broken
this sounds cool, it reinforces her role as a backline disengage champion
i dunno about the w buff tho, 9% ms sounds kind of insane
Ghost is Bad
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the icon looks like an avatar closer would use
Probably a WIP.
Ghost is Bad
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its one of those things from pikmen.
AzureSkies
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fuck low priority queues, I went to grab some stuff, and came back to have to wait 10 minutes again for the queues.
it's not even my fault, it's my friends.
it's not even my fault, it's my friends.
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