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League of Legends |OT8| Goodbye, Promos.
- Thread starter Dobkeratops
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Screw that, Vi needs a rework.
Top lane has Irelia.
Mid has Ori/Syndra/Ahri
Bot has well, it could probably use an ADC, but support wise: Janna, Morgana and Nami
Jungle has been a sausage fest after Elise fell out of favor.
Eh, Rengar, Khaz, Lee seemed pretty popular.
Still want a Vi rework.
edit: That out of the way, I guess it is either too late for this season and too early to call for next season.
embrace the dongers
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I'm sorry but you two don't have the experience I have with AD TF. I'm sure you're better at LoL than me, but you haven't played AD TF as much as I have.
He can take every single ADC in the game unless they have a QSS or Cleanse.
Stone Ocean
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Let's talk Anivia? All right!
Chicken needs nerfing, she's OP as shit under the pretense that she's hard to play. Saw Bjerg do some shit with wall that is just dirty
They have much more experience with ADCs in general than you do with AD TF
Also it's not a matter of experience, most ADC numbers > AD TF numbers. They have higher AD scaling abilities, higher attack speed steroids/scaling and half their kit isn't useless because of your build path. This is something no amount of experience can change, if you take your AD TF build and apply it to any ADC they will outdamage you period.
What about banshee's?
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Anyone here can come to the aram map, get us farmed up to late game builds, and then 1vs1 TF. No QSS or Cleanse
already made that joke, get out!
Aram sorta poor place to test real world conditions, especially if you're disallowing certain items. That said I'd think AD TF would do even worse on ARAM 1v1.
What about banshee's?
Barack Lesnar
Banned
The only time his Q is worth using
Vi rework? She's one of the newer champion and I can't think of anything that needs changing with her really.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
You can do that or flash. Sometimes you can just run at em. Maybe only a Vayne you can't run at em because of her knockback
Reading heavys posts are so hilarious. If and but qualifiers (you do realize that a lot of players at higher elos DO buy qss our take cleanse right? And I don't mean 6th item qss either), and so much silver reasoning (all I have to do is ult our flash in on the carry, not realizing that doing that outside of silver is going to get you obliterated by their team)
We should really do an in house game and see just how well it works against people who know how ad tf relies on low elo lack of game knowledge to succeed
We should really do an in house game and see just how well it works against people who know how ad tf relies on low elo lack of game knowledge to succeed
New page, babe!
Tizoc
Member
oF COURSe not, he's a husbando.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I know what you're thinking. You're just wrong. You have no idea the damage he deals.
i said force him to NOT play sivir
or is he not allowed to play draven either because he has a speed up to kite?
or is he not allowed to play cait because she can E away?
or is he not allowed to play jinx because she has chompers?
SORRY NEWT YOU GOTTA PLAY ASHE
and you can't use your ult.
because ad tf.
you know what? it's time to stop talking. time to put up or shut up. we're organizing an in house.
who's in? when are we doing it? i'm down. we're going to put an end to this stupid conversation
I misread.
Urgot only.
no, urgot can ult the TF into his own team as a form of escape
Barack Lesnar
Banned
This is a silly, condescending post. I get what you guys are thinking. Bronze/Silver durr, but he beats every ADC in the game 1vs1 if no QSS or Cleanse. I have 300 games with him in ranked. I've played vs so many smurfs it's unreal.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Come make a custom 1vs1 game with me right now, take 10 mins to farm our full builds, then go. We can just exchange kills to farm.
it's condescending because you've been nothing but condescending in your posts by flippantly dismissing what everyone who's better at the game has been telling you because "reasons". then you try to make qualifying statements (they cant have cleanse or qss), and try to justify "reasons" by "i beat smurfs all the time"
it's time to prove what you've been saying this entire time or shut up.
and you post stupid shit like this. this isn't how the game works. this isn't how SR works. you're making claims about ad TF in SR, so we're going to prove you wrong with your AD TF in SR. we're not going to cowtow to your specific design to give yourself every advantage possible to prove us wrong
i come home in 40 minutes. be ready.
I'm all for weird builds. I love Quinn. I know. You mastered a champion and can beat people who haven't mastered theirs. I always, always tell my friends "why did I have to master Quinn why didn't I master <insert 10+ ADCs that are better>".
You can admit that he's not as strong as other champions and still love him to death. Maybe he fits the way you play perfectly. That's fine. But look at the numbers. They don't lie. His damage output is simply lower than a lot of ADCs with similarly powerful items. None of his abilities scale off AD (except his draw). His range is pretty abysmal. He's a one-trick pony that can be countered in a number of ways.
If you like him, that's fine. Play him all you want. If you're having success, then go ahead. But don't throw around your personal experiences like they're fact, especially when you're in Silver. I'm only in Gold and I don't throw around stuff like that, at least not without it being tongue-in-cheek.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Nothing has ever been condescending about my TF posts. I don't think you know what that word means. Saying TF beats every ADC 1vs1 isn't an example of someone being condescending.
Stone Ocean
Member
I want to see VODs
Barack Lesnar
Banned
I've never saved any replays. Didn't know how to / was too lazy because it's not integrated into the client
I like the AD TF talk. Both parties have valid arguments. I think AD TF is a good pick in the lower elos. I got destroyed by a legit ADC TF once in diamond ranked (#neverforget). He dished massive damage, I can see him 1v1ing an ADC. He was massively fed, though, mostly by me (his synergy with his support was incredible, the double stun was a nightmare, forgot who was support tho, maybe leona).
it absolutely is, because every time you state it, you put up asinine qualifiers. no cleanse or qss, are you serious with this shit? who is going to look at a team comp with lock downs and not buy a qss in this game outside of gold and under elos? and are you forgetting about crucible? or basic peel?
Stone Ocean
Member
I mean of the inhouse if it happens.
The thing of it is though, we do have a pretty decent idea of how much damage he does, along with his attack range. For example:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Twisted_Fate
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Twitch
Compare him to twitch because he's the random first ADC I thought of. TF's base stats are similar, but he has a worse aspd scaling, a worse aspd steroid, no AD scaling abilities (unless you count his W), and essentially only one ability that is actually useful in a 1v1. I honestly have no idea how you would ever kill an ulting Twitch by just walking at him as by that point he has more than 300 range advantage on you. That's on an ADC that isn't even in the meta right now
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