Who gets Cleanse as an ADC? Who gets QSS early, which provides no offensive benefits whatsoever unless you upgrade to a 3.7k Scimitar? What about a normal team without "tons of lock downs"?
I have 300 games in ranked with him. I've played vs countless smurfs (Silver is Smurf Central). What do you want me to say? Most of you have never even seen one in action and you expect me to just concede my point despite having hundreds of hours with him?
Before Shiv he is terrible in lane.
Because you want to prove us wrong when you clearly have no idea of how a bot lane ADC works. I mean, just look at these:
Who gets cleanse as an ADC? Someone that isn't shit and doesn't want to die to CC lockdown, it's a perfectly legit summoner spell that is used up to competitive play.
Your posts are bizarrely confrontational about a topic that is not worth sweating over.
Didn't you say Plat is just one step above Gold and Plat is nothing special? Well Diamond is one step above Plat.
My worst quality as a LoL player is that I am god awful with knowing much about any other champions outside of a small few that I regularly play---Vel'Koz. Taric. Anivia. If his gold card is targeted, it might explain why I feel like I suck the most at dodging it. lol
same thing happened to xerath, he was never nerfed he just sort of went away.
V4.18:
Sounds good. I have time to hop in a quick shower then. I'm picturing this whole thing right now as a high school fight, where two guys talk shit and agree to meet in the park after school. Then only 1 shows up. Or neither. I expect a fight, dammit!
He feels so batshit strong. He's safe, his damage is ridiculous, he's a lane bully that shits on melee for free and besides his E he's hardly hard to use.
Cleanse isn't that bad in lane, but the timing on it requires more precision, because you need to cleanse the Ignite or the Exhaust.
Your laning phase wouldn't be so hard if you took Wild Cards before level 13.
I dunno man, cleanse it's definitely weaker than heal in lane. You'll just overall lose trades. Cleanse can be better than barrier tho.
Look, I don't know where you're getting this from:
I think Cleanse is situational. It is weaker in some situations because it doesn't offer the support anything, but against multi-CC supports it can be really useful. Because Cleanse only excels in certain use cases, i.e., your support isn't the one being focused, people are less likely to run it.
But they do no damage without AP, like at all. If they ever gave them an AD ratio he'd be the greatest champ ever.
helps you farm though.
People have pointed this out before but a good chunk of damage is missing from lane harass. I almost never harass in lane unless it's a melee mid because of AD TF's range. I legit didn't attack Ahri one time during the whole laning phase, maybe a red card hit her or something. All I did was last hit.
So just one point it early on? I'll try it out sometime
Just to get to late game, basically. And to try to get those core items in a timely manner. Maybe get a couple kills from ults before then, like this last game... got 2 with an ult to top. The other lanes can lose but not get completely destroyed, like a bot lane feeding 15 kills.
They do 60 damage at level one, which is honestly decent in the early game, but if you wait to pick it up it will seem like it does nothing. The bigger thing is the range, which is useful for farm, poke, or picking up kills.
Then that's why I thought they do no damage, I get it at lvl 13. I'll try it at level 1, but getting E first helps me last hit.
That's not what I meant. AD TF can carry the entire game. He's a hyper carry.
Such a boring champ
What was your item build and runes, just curious
Nice
runes were ad marks/quints and armour/mr glyphs/yellows
masteries were 21/9/0
There was a teemo which is why I got the lightbringer
