Stone Ocean
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So if TSM didn't suck they would beat Origen
That's your analysis
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League of Legends World Championships 2015 |OCT 1-OCT 31|
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Shining Sunshine
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Nah, if FreeSM wasn't FreeSM, Origen wouldn't have gotten two free wins.
That's what I meant.
Right now, Origen should be super worried that their strats got demolished, even by the sinking LGD.
Strats got demolished? They only lost 2 games like KOO, FW, FNC and EDG.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Unlike those teams, they lost their two final games.
Group D picked up on how to beat Origen after their first week of surprises. Except FreeSM of course, who picked Malphite into Kennen.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
ur opinions on na are as deep as ur understanding of brood war.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
I've watched Brood War eSports since 2003. I know what I'm talking about.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
clearly not since you're overrating na so much.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Dont worry ghosts knowledge on league is as exceptional as his spelling lol
Shining Sunshine
Banned
I have no idea how rating NA has to do with anything about the Brood Wars discussion.
One is about eSports and the other is about game mechanics.
PhillipCostigan
Member
Do I need to post the salt mines image again?
Shining Sunshine
Banned
I don't even have a reddit account lol
Stone Ocean
Member
You should make one, your memeing is dank/10
C9 had the worst performance of the bunch to me. North America has no competency or forward thinking when it comes to picks. How can you not be prepared for Tahm Kench on this patch? How do you underestimate the power of Jinx? Stuff like this annoys me because a basic level of brainpower and thought can see these things but pro players just miss it or something. Mechanical skill in NA is also just at an all time low.
Because it is embarrassing. These teams represent our region and they play, act, and think like children inside and outside of the game.
You sound and come off as super butthurt, maybe a little delusional as well.
Not defending NA? Please, thats practically what you are doing.
How old are those guys? They sure do look young.
Terbinator
Member
Prototype Viktor
Member
how to make sure you don't make it out of groups
Step 1. Pick Malphite
Step 1. Pick Malphite
NA will continue being the weakest region as long as it keeps up its unprofessional structure. Practice/scrims/team activities should be formally structured. Former players don't make good coaches and administrators. Get actual coaches and support staff. Teach players some basic discipline and professionalism.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
could've fooled me.
NA has potential. They need more discipline, more innovation and more practice on an international stage.
A lot of it is them getting in their own way. There were a lot of good games, close games and that first week showed some of the potential.
An organization or two really need to make a concentrated effort to develop some new players. Hire a great coach, develop a firm schedule with a good working environment and work on some young talent. Basically pull a fnatic.
Tsm can build a team around bjerg and maybe lustboy. They need a good shotcaller first and foremost.
C9 can build around sneaky and incarnation. Maybe even keeping hai if he really works on jungle. He's a strong leader. Meteos was a much better jungler but they need that chemistry and leadership. Plus I don't think he and incarnation got along.
Clg has a solid top and bot. They need a world class jungle to really make their team. Not a walking ward.
Liquid has potential but no consistency at all. Not even sure where to start there.
A lot of it is them getting in their own way. There were a lot of good games, close games and that first week showed some of the potential.
An organization or two really need to make a concentrated effort to develop some new players. Hire a great coach, develop a firm schedule with a good working environment and work on some young talent. Basically pull a fnatic.
Tsm can build a team around bjerg and maybe lustboy. They need a good shotcaller first and foremost.
C9 can build around sneaky and incarnation. Maybe even keeping hai if he really works on jungle. He's a strong leader. Meteos was a much better jungler but they need that chemistry and leadership. Plus I don't think he and incarnation got along.
Clg has a solid top and bot. They need a world class jungle to really make their team. Not a walking ward.
Liquid has potential but no consistency at all. Not even sure where to start there.
Still got a cute poro tho.Stone Ocean
Member
Who cares, they'll be benched way before that
37% win rate. Steak and Ssumday were scary with him
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Yeah agree with your points about improving NA teams.
Aside from TSM obviously getting a new top, it would be better for them to keep the rosters and consistent as possible.
CLG should learn a lot from this and do better next year if they keep their form.
Something happen to Piglet? I thought he was already contracted.
I don't know about turtle, but Santorin is very young and a rookie this year. I don't think he's going anywhere.
You really need Malphite in a lane where he would at least end up even. Against Kennen or Darius, nope.
And I doubt Dyrus plays enough Malphite to compete at the top level. Ssumday and Marin are insane Malphite players and use TP ult at great effect. It's really the only good thing about Malphite.
Stone Ocean
Member
Jokes aside, Santorin is super young and western jungle talent is basically nonexistant, TSM is better off getting him up to speed specially since they'll need a new top laner, the west is also short on those and TSM only gets to import one more korean if I'm not mistaken.
Turtle is pretty bad but I'd wait till the start of the season to see how adc players adapt to the changes before swapping rosters.
That is, unless TIP self destructs in the next 6 months and Rush becomes a free agent. kek
Turtle is pretty bad but I'd wait till the start of the season to see how adc players adapt to the changes before swapping rosters.
Kotetsu534
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Shame that CLG and C9 both fell apart on their final days, but if a region goes 0-10 over their last 10 group stage matches, it's hard to be too upset that it has no presence in the knockouts. Massive props to Fnatic for getting it together under pressure and going 3-0. The LMS region has lived up to my expectations (I picked both FW and AHQ to advance) and proven it deserves to be counted among the elite. Indeed if it wasn't for one bad misplay at the end of AHQ's second game against Fnatic both LMS teams would've topped their groups.
Fnatic vs. EDG in the QFs. Ooh lah lah. Bit sad I'll only be at Flash Wolves v Origen and SKT v AHQ though, but hopeful I'll be seeing a western team reach the Worlds SFs for the first time since season 3, and the first time over non-western opposition since season 2. Don't see AHQ giving SKT a real match.
Fnatic vs. EDG in the QFs. Ooh lah lah. Bit sad I'll only be at Flash Wolves v Origen and SKT v AHQ though, but hopeful I'll be seeing a western team reach the Worlds SFs for the first time since season 3, and the first time over non-western opposition since season 2. Don't see AHQ giving SKT a real match.
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lmao.
that's a pretty nice draw and a really cool last day for worlds
i had the impression the c9 thing was a fluke but damn that's rough for them. i wonder if hai will play next season
fnatic really showed up and delivered even tho they have rough edges in their botlane and some positioning mistakes by huni. also i felt febiven played pretty bad leblanc overall
still disappointed about ig and glad ahq showed they were a really good team, too bad the draw screwed them pretty hard, at least that game is on a week day so i don't miss out on much at work
i had the impression the c9 thing was a fluke but damn that's rough for them. i wonder if hai will play next season
fnatic really showed up and delivered even tho they have rough edges in their botlane and some positioning mistakes by huni. also i felt febiven played pretty bad leblanc overall
still disappointed about ig and glad ahq showed they were a really good team, too bad the draw screwed them pretty hard, at least that game is on a week day so i don't miss out on much at work
HORRORSHØW
Member
na doesn't have great mids
I really don't see it. I don't see up and coming NA players and I dont' see a place that fosters or builds players. It is hard to imagine things improving in the near future.
Stone Ocean
Member
I mean, it worked for Infiltration
Primethius
Banned
Santorin just needs to go to an EU team. Then he can really hit his cap.
I agree with the latter which is why we don't see the former. If anything he was better when he first started with tsm. What we need is real coaches that understand the game at a higher level and can shape players and the meta.
Stone Ocean
Member
Hey
NA has good KR mids too, all right
NA has good KR mids too, all right
?????????
Also, TABE is getting smashed for leaking IG strats
I must've missed that - what happened?
Stone Ocean
Member
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Tabe looked like he was joking saying iG's secret weapon is going to be Jungle Hec and Kalista Kennen.
Then iG picked Jungle Hec.
Honestly, what he said didn't really matter, and the community is going overboard including the super angry Chinese fans.
Since when are Fenix and Keana good mid laner ?
Also its pretty hard for NA to develop good players with the awful soloq environment.
HORRORSHØW
Member
tabe's a fucking dumbass. unprofessional and disrespectful
Disagree
Koo and EDG came to Worlds mainly because of Malphite. His initiation is unlike any other.
Although I am not sure I follow his nerf/buff situation