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Leaked Trailer for The Batman

TGO

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Reptars Revenge said:
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Like I say to my brother, "that's a white person with makeup on"
 
SuperGooey

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Mahadev said:
The point is what I wrote in my post, Batman's power is his image, Pattinson looks like a bitch therefore doesn't look like a Batman.
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So, once again:

This is a different type of Batman film. Batman isn't going head-to-head with super alien gods in a mindless Snyder superhero team up movie, he is solving a murder mystery in a detective noir genre film that takes place very early in Batman's career. So, the context for what role Batman needs to be is completely different; though, again, given Pattison's more versatile range as an actor compared to Affleck, I think he'll do just fine.

But, yeah, I guess you can say "your Batman can beat up my Batman." Cool. ;)
 
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#Phonepunk#

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ok ive been critical of this, but every time i see the trailer again, it looks better. was hanging w the fam and my bros were looking up the trailer. got to admit i really like him as Batman, far more than Ben Affleck. plus the actors are all good choices.

i still need to see Joker. i love Phoenix, dude was brilliant in the Master. i just never find the right time.

yeah im coming around to this. definitely looking forward to seeing more
 
Grand Theft Scratchy

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Mahadev said:
The point is what I wrote in my post, Batman's power is his image, Pattinson looks like a bitch therefore doesn't look like a Batman.
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What about Robert Pattinson portraying Bruce Wayne/Batman in the trailer makes him "look like a bitch"?

I'm really curious to know why time and time again, people like you continually write certain actors off as having failed to portray these fictional characters based entirely on screenshots, minute-long trailers, or movies released a decade ago as opposed to his more recent movie roles?

What is Robert Pattinson supposed to be like in this movie where he portrays a younger Batman, a haunted Bruce Wayne, facing off against Riddler and Penguin for the first time? Which Batman movie with a similar premise can you even compare this one to?
 
#Phonepunk#

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i really really like the Batman costume. it might be my favorite design of all the movies so far. im partial to Burton's but the joints were too stiff not good for action. this has a good oldschool feel to it. tbh it makes me think of the 1940s serials.
 
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Mahadev

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SuperGooey said:
So, once again:

This is a different type of Batman film. Batman isn't going head-to-head with super alien gods in a mindless Snyder superhero team up movie, he is solving a murder mystery in a detective noir genre film that takes place very early in Batman's career. So, the context for what role Batman needs to be is completely different; though, again, given Pattison's more versatile range as an actor compared to Affleck, I think he'll do just fine.

But, yeah, I guess you can say "your Batman can beat up my Batman." Cool. ;)
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How the fuck do you keep missing the point? How are the super alien gods relevant to the discussion considering what I said? Jesus fucking Christ, if you want to disagree about how Pattinson looks or what makes Batman Batman I'm fine with it, but this is like arguing with a brick. Learn to read.

VysePSU said:
What about Robert Pattinson portraying Bruce Wayne/Batman in the trailer makes him "look like a bitch"?

I'm really curious to know why time and time again, people like you continually write certain actors off as having failed to portray these fictional characters based entirely on screenshots, minute-long trailers, or movies released a decade ago as opposed to his more recent movie roles?

What is Robert Pattinson supposed to be like in this movie where he portrays a younger Batman, a haunted Bruce Wayne, facing off against Riddler and Penguin for the first time? Which Batman movie with a similar premise can you even compare this one to?
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He just looks weak and unathletic and definitely doesn't look young enough to play a 20+ Batman. His performance might be great, he's just not very convincing as Batman because he didn't work out enough. That's it.
 
JimiNutz

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ManaByte said:
Reeves said from Day 1 this would be a detective story which we only got hints of with Burton and was basically ignored in every Batman since.



Reeves confirmed that Bruce makes all his stuff including the suit.



Batman putting a juggalo in traction was the best movie scene of 2020.



Farrell says his role is small in the movie, but since this is Year 2 and all of them are just starting out we'll probably get more of him in the sequels.



We've already heard the theme. Giacchino used it in the suit reveal video:




Kravitz hinted that the final suit would be Tim Sale inspired.

I haven't been this excited for a Batman movie since 1989.
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Yeah I really like that they're playing up the detective angle as that's something unique for Batman (on film anyway) and I think the storyline will really shine as a murder mystery/thriller. Se7en is also one of my favourite films of all time and the opening of this trailer really reminds me of that.

I forgot that we'd already had a tease of the theme in that suit reveal. I really like it!
It does sound a bit like a cross of the Imperial March from Star Wars and the classic Elfman theme.

I'm with you man, this is the most excited I've been for a Batman movie in a long time.

#Phonepunk# said:
all the villains look like regular dudes. the joker guys wearing weak ass face paint look like extras from Batman & Robin. that's really the moment where i was like "seriously? they want me to pay $15+ to see this?"

Batman is defined by his villains. these just aren't interesting from a visual design perspective. sure the movie could be great. sure the actors are great. but great actors don't make a great movie.

i'm just giving my first impressions. all the villains look like normal people in normal clothes wearing a tiny amount of makeup. Penguin is just a guy with putty on his face. Riddler, just a guy. not visually exciting. i just like more fantasy in my movies is all. the Nolan trilogy wasn't really my jam either, as much as i enjoyed watching the movies at the time. i'm just a little tired of the look.
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Ah ok so your issue is that they seem to be going for a more 'grounded' take again. I do get that, especially as we already had a similar take with Nolan's films.

Remember this is still year two though, very early on in the Batman mythos and Reeves said that most of his rogues gallery don't even exist yet (this movie is actually kind of an origin story for some of the rogues gallery rather than Batman himself).

I imagine that we will see the villains develop over the course of the three films - maybe they'll start getting a bit crazier by the second and third films.

A film trilogy that mixed bits of the grounded Nolan style with the gothic fairytale Burton style would be awesome.
 
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ManaByte

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HotPocket69 said:
So what are the chances for a surprise R rating? It worked for Joker...
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For Batman? WB's biggest franchise? It'll be PG-13.

The Suicide Squad will be probably end up R, it is right now and is being tested as an R rated movie. But stuff like Batman, Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Shazam will stay PG-13.
 
JimiNutz

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ManaByte said:
I kind of like the idea of time jumps between movies. That worked well for the Apes trilogy.
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Yeah time jumps could work well.

If this trilogy is successful I wonder how long Pattinson will be happy to play the role. Maybe they'll end up getting more than three films out of him and Reeves?

Probably a bit early to be thinking about all that but I'd love to see a long 6 film Barman arch using the same cast at some point in my lifetime.
 
JimiNutz

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Tesseract said:
leaned out batman seems fine, more dexterous and agile with arts and toolkits

hopefully they'll counter balance with a history of damage, physical scars and emotional damage

def wanna see more, pattinson has been crushing it lately
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I think this is the part they're gonna nail best.
Pattinson is great casting to portroy an emotionally damaged and unhinged Batman.

They already play up to that a lot in this trailer and Pattinson already said that in his head Batman isn't necessarily even a 'real' hero which is why he's attracted to the role.

I think they are really gonna run with the idea that Batman is pretty much a lunatic.
 
Tesseract

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JimiNutz said:
I think this is the part they're gonna nail best.
Pattinson is great casting to portroy an emotionally damaged and unhinged Batman.

They already play up to that a lot in this trailer and Pattinson already said that in his head Batman isn't necessarily even a 'real' hero which is why he's attracted to the role.

I think they are really gonna run with the idea that Batman is pretty much a lunatic.
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oh hell yeah
 
JimiNutz

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Tesseract said:
oh hell yeah
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I'm down for seeing Batman getting fucked up physically as well.

Early Batman likely got his head kicked in on several occasions. I loved that shot in BvS of Battfleck training and we see how fucking mangled and scar ridden his back was from years and years of doing this shit.
 
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Tesseract

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JimiNutz said:
I'm down for seeing Batman getting fucked up physically as well.

Early Batman likely got his head kicked in on several occasions. I loved that shot in BvS of Battfleck training and we see how fucking mangled and scar ridden his back was from years and years of doing this shit.
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that life lends itself to lots of lacerations and blunt force, tissue damage from heavy exertion and strain, injury, so forth

they shouldn't skirt that stuff, oftentimes the body can be a story unto itself

one thing tho, bit worried about bruce wayne since it's supposed to be his mask, seems too outwardly traumatized from trailer appearances
 
JimiNutz

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Tesseract said:
that life lends itself to lots of lacerations and blunt force, tissue damage from heavy exertion and strain, injury, so forth

they shouldn't skirt that stuff, oftentimes the body can be a story unto itself

one thing tho, bit worried about bruce wayne since it's supposed to be his mask, seems too outwardly traumatized from trailer appearances
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Yeah I completely agree there.
You can see the trauma on his Bruce's face in the trailer.

Bruce is supposed to be faking the arrogant care free charming playboy thing so that people never suspect who he really is.

Maybe that's a story point they will pick up on and develop over the course of the film/trilogy.
I'm pretty confident that Reeves understands the character and mythos so I'd be surprised if they didn't address it.
 
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JimiNutz

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Wimbledon said:
This looks like it can fit in the same world as the Joker film. It pretty much has that same aesthetic.
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The problem is the timeline.
Joker was set in the 80s? Bruce looked about 10 years old in that and Fleck was at least in his mid 30s.

If that Joker existed in this timeline he'd be in his 60s by now. Bruce would also be a lot older than Pattinson is in The Batman. (The Batman is def set in current times as you can tell from the cell phone tech visible in the trailer).
 
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SuperGooey said:
film that takes place very early in Batman's career
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Enough with the origin stories already.

Everyone knows who Batman is at this point. Can we not have a film that takes place solidly in the middle of Batman's career that doesn't try to explain the origin of the character or any of the villains?

Give me a film that is inspired by the 70s and 80s Batman comics, not the grimdark character he's turned into since "Death in the Family"
 
FunkMiller

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What part of Pattinson battering someone fucking senseless in seven seconds in one uncut take makes people think he doesn’t look as ‘tough’ as Batfleck?

You know Batfleck? That pudgy looking mother fucker, who had to rely on stunt doubles, CGI, and wires to make him look hard?

Jesus Christ, the Batfleck adoration is fucking laughable 😂

Mahadev said:
It looks like an anime character beating people up. Batman's schtick is that he brings fear to his enemies minds, half his power is his image, Batfleck looked like he could fucking destroy you, Pattison looks like an emo bitch.
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Case in point. Batfleck looks like he could destroy a fucking pizza, I’ll give you that.

So many people wank over that warehouse scene like any of it was actual combat. It was all cgi, stuntmen and wires, with good old Cocaine Ben occasionally sticking the cowl on for his close ups 😂
 
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SuperGooey

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Whataborman said:
Enough with the origin stories already.

Everyone knows who Batman is at this point. Can we not have a film that takes place solidly in the middle of Batman's career that doesn't try to explain the origin of the character or any of the villains?

Give me a film that is inspired by the 70s and 80s Batman comics, not the grimdark character he's turned into since "Death in the Family"
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Not an origin story.
 
kunonabi

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Neil_b4Zod said:
What part of Pattinson battering someone fucking senseless in seven seconds in one uncut take makes people think he doesn’t look as ‘tough’ as Batfleck?

You know Batfleck? That pudgy looking mother fucker, who had to rely on stunt doubles, CGI, and wires to make him look hard?

Jesus Christ, the Batfleck adoration is fucking laughable 😂



Case in point. Batfleck looks like he could destroy a fucking pizza, I’ll give you that.

So many people wank over that warehouse scene like any of it was actual combat. It was all cgi, stuntmen and wires, with good old Cocaine Ben occasionally sticking the cowl on for his close ups 😂
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Problem with the Pattinson scene is it takes way too many hits to put the guy down and the way its staged also makes it look a little like a childish slap fight.

That said I'm not a giant fan of any of the live-action Batmans as far the hand-to-hand combat goes.
 
SuperGooey

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Mahadev said:
How the fuck do you keep missing the point? How are the super alien gods relevant to the discussion considering what I said? Jesus fucking Christ, if you want to disagree about how Pattinson looks or what makes Batman Batman I'm fine with it, but this is like arguing with a brick. Learn to read.
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I'm saying you have to acknowledge the context of what each Batman is trying to accomplish. I think Pattison's look fits The Batman, and the big, bulky look of Affleck fits the movies he was in where he needed to be more physically imposing even when up against someone like Superman.

Please, try and comprehend what you are reading this time instead of being needlessly rude.
 
Romulus

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Explosive Zombie said:
Because of all the talk of Pattinson not being big enough to be intimidating.
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Bruce Lee was a movie star with some full combat fights. I don't think he's intimidating at all. Could he kick alot of ass? Probably. Height, size, and speed are more intimidating combined with top tier training. And that's part of what made Batman scary. He was this huge guy that was crazy fast and trained in martial arts.

We cant get around the fact that they are absolutely massive guys out there that move extremely fast and also have endurance. That's a real thing.
 
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FunkMiller

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kunonabi said:
Problem with the Pattinson scene is it takes way too many hits to put the guy down and the way its staged also makes it look a little like a childish slap fight.

That said I'm not a giant fan of any of the live-action Batmans as far the hand-to-hand combat goes.
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He appears to be toying with him. Making a point to his fellow thugs, if you like. The arm lock and first punch basically ended the fight. The rest of it was purely Batman punishing the guy for trying to stand up to him. I loved it. The speed Pattinson moves at was fabulous. So sick of big lumbering Batman. Really pleased he can move that quick.
 
Mahadev

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SuperGooey said:
I'm saying you have to acknowledge the context of what each Batman is trying to accomplish. I think Pattison's look fits The Batman, and the big, bulky look of Affleck fits the movies he was in where he needed to be more physically imposing even when up against someone like Superman.

Please, try and comprehend what you are reading this time instead of being needlessly rude.
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Again,. Batman always relied on fear regardless of how he was portrayed because it is a very basic trait of the character. Anyway, I don't even know how I got dragged into this discussion, I don't even care enough about this superhero shit or to continue this discussion. I guess it's that you refused to acknowledge what I was saying.
 
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Romulus said:
Bruce Lee was a movie star with some full combat fights. I don't think he's intimidating at all. Could he kick alot of ass? Probably. Height, size, and speed are more intimidating combined with top tier training. And that's part of what made Batman scary. He was this huge guy that was crazy fast and trained in martial arts.

We cant get around the fact that they are absolutely massive guys out there that move extremely fast and also have endurance. That's a real thing.
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I dunno man, if I was caught in an alley way with Bruce Lee and he wanted to kick my ass I'd feel pretty intimidated by that.
 
kunonabi

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Neil_b4Zod said:
He appears to be toying with him. Making a point to his fellow thugs, if you like. The arm lock and first punch basically ended the fight. The rest of it was purely Batman punishing the guy for trying to stand up to him. I loved it. The speed Pattinson moves at was fabulous. So sick of big lumbering Batman. Really pleased he can move that quick.
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So he was beating on a defenseles man to prove a point? Not sure that's much better to be honest.
 
Astral Dog

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Hmm, this either could go very good or a disaster but im betting on good. I like the somber aesthetic batman needs more of that after Justice League and Suicide Squad

We will see, but i have more faith on Pattison than i ever did on the Batfleck.
 
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