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Leaked Trailer for The Batman
- Thread starter ManaByte
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BluRayHiDef
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I can't believe that I forgot Wonder Woman. As for the other movies, I don't believe that they're in production yet; I was focusing on movies that were either in production or complete.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
My hope is they take Keaton having him as old Bruce as we said and start a batman beyond series and introduce Terry to the JL after two solo batman beyond movies of his own.Batfleck in The Flash is basically a big cameo to give Affleck the send off he didn't get. The main Batman in the movie is Keaton who fights side-by-side with The Flash and designs his new costume. After Flashpoint, Keaton becomes the Bruce Wayne in the Justice League universe and is the Nick Fury mentor figure for the Justice League kind of like in Kingdom Come:
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ManaByte
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Black Adam is in prep now and should start filming next month. Shazam films at the end of the year, Aquaman films in January.
Hezekiah
Banned
Ahem, Batman Returns!
TindalosPup
Member
I'm going to let myself be excited there's a new Batman, but I'll keep a measure of caution because of the time we're living in (anything is possible nowadays)
They fucked up my girl over commercializing her, now I get to see every female that's watched those movies say she's their favorite and they're "literally her", and I'll never get a decent Harley cameo in a live action Batman movie... At least I have the video games
JaseMath
Member
If only garbage shitposts like this were bannable.
Can't argue with that.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
really not a fan of using Nirvana in this. im an og fan so i have feelings about that song. plus it's tacky. oh boy another slow serious song.
do they still have composers in Hollywood? can we get an orchestra in here? every has to be a dour minimal deconstructed rock song?
do they still have composers in Hollywood? can we get an orchestra in here? every has to be a dour minimal deconstructed rock song?
Joshmyersbv
Member
It's like they mixed the Riddler and Hush and made it one character. Also, that final shot with him taking off the mask made him look more like Dick Greyson than Bruce Wayne.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Yeah Catwoman has been black before .
But we ignore that for two reasons
One: The woke culture pretends it doesn't exist along with the original BLADE because everyone was racist 20 years ago and black people didn't get cast in lead roles, especially a superhero roles
And if they did people would freak out over a black Catwoman when in reality peoples reaction was "Halle Berry looks Hot!"
Two: because it was really bad film
ManaByte
Member
Yeah Catwoman has been black before .
But we ignore that for two reasons
One: The woke culture pretends it doesn't exist along with the original BLADE because everyone was racist 20 years ago and black people didn't get cast in lead roles, especially a superhero roles
And if they did people would freak out over a black Catwoman when in reality peoples reaction was "Halle Berry looks Hot!"
Two: because it was really bad film
iconmaster
Banned
*watches the thug receiving his beatdown*
Yeah, that looks like Batman.
Yeah, that looks like Batman.
Punished Miku
Banned
There's really only been one good Catwoman. Very hard character to make interesting, and not stupid.
SuperGooey
Member
^Batman Returns also made Penguin--one of the more boring Batman villains--incredible. Danny Devito's Penguin is easily the best Batman film villain, imo.
kunonabi
Member
Pretty much. Pfieffer's is really the one that truly made a case for the character's existence.
The problem with Kravitz as Catwoman is Kravitz herself. She's just bloody awful and unappealing.
ManaByte
Member
Returns is also much more of a Tim Burton movie than the first Batman. The original had a lot of producers mucking with it, the writer's strike causing the Vicky Vale in the Batcave stuff, etc. Returns is much more of a pure Burton movie with Batman in it.
Insane Metal
Member
Dat hair lol. Looks like shit
Night.Ninja
Banned
Looks good I prefer batman films with a darker tone
HotPocket69
Banned
Looks awesome. I’m in.
Paul Dano sounds solid. Nice pick for Riddler.
Paul Dano sounds solid. Nice pick for Riddler.
Reptars Revenge
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SuperGooey
Member
Oh, for sure, but I think Returns is a better movie for it. Returns' comic book equivalent would be a story like Gotham by Gaslight--another artist's take on a surreal, nightmare Batman. A kind of fairytale side story, and I love it! I think because Returns is so surreal and weird, it holds up better than something like the Nolan films which were going for something more grounded. What was grounded in '05 or '08 feels outdated now to me (especially Nolan's take on "grounded"), while something more stylized like Returns holds up better.
Just in general, Burton understood how to direct fairytales with sympathetic freaks, and he flexed that in Returns. Batman is hardly a hero like in the comics, but instead a loner who just dresses up as a bat and beats up other freaks. Somehow, to me, that's the most believable way to portray someone who would dress up as a bat to fight crime. One of my favorites parts in Returns is when Batman is just riding his batmobile around, looking for trouble, and sees Oswald in a library and is immediately suspicious about him. During this, Alfred is speaking to Batman and asks something along the lines of "must you be the only lone freak in town?" Intended or not, it brings up the idea that Batman would have to be this self-righteous piece of shit to go around fighting criminals on the street. The entitlement that "Gotham is MY city, and MY law is the law." And with all the fetish imagery in the film, you almost think Batman gets off on being Batman. It's weird and amazing.
Anyway, yeah, I fucking love Returns. If nothing else, it has the best soundtrack and art direction, and it is the sexiest Batman movie. Michelle Pfeifffer is hot as hell in her gimp fetish cat suit.
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Explosive Zombie
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The "no kill" thing is so silly, like you can beat a person that savagely and expect them to survive... not saying they COULDN'T survive but you can literally die from a couple swift blows to the head.
ManaByte
Member
It's not silly. It's what makes Batman different from the rest of the Justice League.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
I explained why it's silly, your retort has no bearing on it. Don't usually see Superman killing people either, anyways.
ManaByte
Member
Superman kills (despite people like Mark Waid trying to rewrite history and claim he doesn't).
Wonder Woman is a fucking WARRIOR who kills all the time. Hell she snapped Max Lord's neck.
The Lanterns kill. Aquaman kills.
Batman is the one with a no killing rule, unless he's being written by Morrison.
Explosive Zombie
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Batman also only stopped killing when they re-wrote his history, his re-write simply being the more popular version for most people doesn't eliminate what he does and some of his oldest comics are still considered classics, like how Batman '89 did an homage to Batman flying straight at his enemies firing everything he had to KILL from I believe the first ever issue? Not to mention it's such a weird thing to complain about when there's so many different takes in alternate universe's and timelines, and even the movies will be embracing this via the Flash film, we will have Batfleck, Keaten Batman and Pattinson all in a multi-verse, you can handle one or two of them being more lassez-faire about the kill rule.
SuperGooey
Member
The way I look at it, the "no kill rule" gives Batman an excuse to beat up the same criminals over and over. It comes from a warped sense of ideals and "justice" that comes from a guy who is essentially an angry, vengeful psychopath. The only reason he is able to convince himself that he isn't a monster is because he won't cross the "no kill" line that he made for himself, but he takes that to such an extreme that he'd rather spare the Joker so he can get another chance to kill hundreds more innocent people, then kill him and see himself as the bad guy. It's an ego thing, not a moral thing.
To me, once you think of Bruce/Batman in that way, his actions make more sense and he is more interesting. Based on the trailer for The Batman, it looks like the movie may be exploring that. Riddler seems to know Batman is Bruce Wayne, and I think his message will be "Stop beating up small time thugs, and take out the people who really control things!" Perhaps not as a crimefighter, but as the billionaire philanthropist with unlimited money and influence.
To me, once you think of Bruce/Batman in that way, his actions make more sense and he is more interesting. Based on the trailer for The Batman, it looks like the movie may be exploring that. Riddler seems to know Batman is Bruce Wayne, and I think his message will be "Stop beating up small time thugs, and take out the people who really control things!" Perhaps not as a crimefighter, but as the billionaire philanthropist with unlimited money and influence.
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Mahadev
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It looks like an anime character beating people up. Batman's schtick is that he brings fear to his enemies minds, half his power is his image, Batfleck looked like he could fucking destroy you, Pattison looks like an emo bitch.
SuperGooey
Member
"My Batman could beat up your Batman!"
Ok? Affleck was fine, but the movies he was Batman in sucked. While too early to tell, I think The Batman looks like a far more interesting take on the detective aspect of the character. The idea that Batman is solving a murder mystery here is, to me, way more interesting than him punching Superman and CGI alien ogre monsters. Also, I think Robert Pattinson is a much better actor.
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Explosive Zombie
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How big of a guy did you guys think Bruce Lee was?
triplestation
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FOR YOU
Mahadev
Member
Way to miss the point with that dumb strawman.
iconmaster
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I get you, but Batman having this rule (even if it hasn’t been consistent for every version of the character) is for me almost the most interesting thing about him. It means that Batman will always be at a slight disadvantage against the villains, and they know it.
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lock2k
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Explosive Zombie
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Nolan basically switched it to Batman not being someone's executioner. People die in those films, in particular in the car chase sequences, but it felt like an acknowledgment of reality. Front-flipping the Joker's truck could kill literally everyone inside but the goal wasn't to kill, Batman won't do something with the goal of killing and to me that's fine, it fits.
ManaByte
Member
He killed Harvey Dent.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
He did what he could to stop Harvey Dent from killing a child, were it possible to save him as well he would have.
SuperGooey
Member
Has there ever been a Batman story where Batman finds out retroactively that he did end up killing someone after kicking their teeth into their skull?
What exactly was your point?
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Mahadev
Member
The point is what I wrote in my post, Batman's power is his image, Pattinson looks like a bitch therefore doesn't look like a Batman.