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[ThaiGrocer]

I thought they offered those because the voice actors were available and they had extra time. They've done that in the past for custom campaigns. I don't think there's much to read out of that, other than they want to show they support the original L4D, as well.

The lag of tagline might be the same reason the poster had weird looking heads. It's not finished. It's up in the air, honestly. Zoey still looks like a man in The Last Stand poster.

 

[Red Scarlet]

Oh valve time, why must you always come back to haunt us again and again. They're like herpes or something.

 

[Sibylus]

That's because the original four are all goners. Valve still hasn't found a tagline that is classy enough.

 

[HK-47]

They must have been on the wrong side of a botolf molotov toss then. Poor Louis.

 

[Twig]

LOUIS NOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[marvelharvey]

Oh valve time, why must you always come back to haunt us again and again. They're like herpes or something.

Maybe the shocking announcement is that they've finished the update on time?

 

[Twig]

Maybe the shocking announcement is that they've finished the update on time?

That can't be right.

 

[derFeef]

No Tagline - what can this mean.

- not finished yet
- story twist like different endings (original cast survives, dies)
- some sort of community incorporation
- ?

 

[ThaiGrocer]

In any case, I've been caught by the GTTV hype train tonight.

 

[Sibylus]

Oh shi-

Another possibility. The two groups don't exactly... cooperate by the finale.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

New blog post from l4d.com: http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=3623

12 L4dictionary terms and they're going to reveal the tagline on GTTV. Hype-train full steam ahead!

 

[xero273]

lol that was a short clip... :lol tag line is Nobody Survives Forever and a hint at someone dying in L4D1. No release date was mentioned.

 

[GoldandBlue]

Yeah they mention you'll run into 3 of the original L4D characters in The Passing and that in the new DLC for L4D1 somebody will have to sacrifice themself to save the others.

I'm guessing Bill. They already mentioned interactions between Francis and Zoey. Bill seems like the kinda guy who would be ready to sacrifice his life to save the others, being the oldest and all.

If this is the case I wonder what they'll do with future DLC for L4D1...guessing it wont get anymore.

 

[vertopci]

GG tonight :O

 

[Stallion Free]

We only because I got called my drunk emotional GF.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZMGMYTBP

 

[vertopci]

We only lost because I got called my drunk emotional GF.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZMGMYTBP

QQ stallion

 

[BuddhaRockstar]

Yeah they mention you'll run into 3 of the original L4D characters in The Passing and that in the new DLC for L4D1 somebody will have to sacrifice themself to save the others.

I'm guessing Bill. They already mentioned interactions between Francis and Zoey. Bill seems like the kinda guy who would be ready to sacrifice his life to save the others, being the oldest and all.

If this is the case I wonder what they'll do with future DLC for L4D1...guessing it wont get anymore.

Plus they didn't have his voice actor in Crash Course, so if they can't get his voice anymore they probably just thought it was better to kill him off than use old clips.

 

[morningbus]

And while I feel happiness for the first time in as many months as there are gray hairs striping my head of hazelnut, I wonder: am I not a penguin on display at the Montreal Biodome?

Who is this? Who is this man? He looks different. He looks differently at me. His eyes are welling with tears. Has he come to take me home? Perhaps to feed me a fish for lunch and dinner and buy me a refrigerator to live in?

I'm not like the other penguins here and he knows it. He knows it. His mouth is open wide. He is going to tell the other people that I need to get out of this small world. Sure it is cold, but can't I desire more? Can't I too don a backpack and explore the world, or even just the local fish market? I'm so good, please.

The man is snapping his head back and now abruptly forward. He is sneezing. He is looking at me again. He is smiling. He is turning. He is walking away.

Will you come back for me?

So, yeah. Good game tonight.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

There wasn't that much additional info on GTTV. Ah, well.

 

[Red Scarlet]

It's like a porno demo!

 

[Sibylus]

So that's why the original four are in silhouettes in the original poster, they didn't want to give away the twist.

Spoiler

I'm calling that it's Francis that doesn't make it.

 

[Stallion Free]

Plus they didn't have his voice actor in Crash Course, so if they can't get his voice anymore they probably just thought it was better to kill him off than use old clips.

Oh snap, I didn't even notice that.

 

[Shake Appeal]

But since they're talking about having L4D1 content that allows you to play through the character's death, would Bill just be mute for all of that?

 

[BuddhaRockstar]

But since they're talking about having L4D1 content that allows you to play through the character's death, would Bill just be mute for all of that?

Actually, scratch what I said- Bill's voice actor, Jim French, is listed for Left 4 Dead 2 on IMDB. As are all three of the other original cast.

 

[GoldandBlue]

So that's why the original four are in silhouettes in the original poster, they didn't want to give away the twist.

Spoiler

I'm calling that it's Francis that doesn't make it.

But they already confirmed Francis along with Zoey for The Passing. Since Francis is gonna have some conversations going on with Nick.

 

[Stallion Free]

Actually, scratch what I said- Bill's voice actor, Jim French, is listed for Left 4 Dead 2 on IMDB. As are all three of the other original cast.

But did he record anything for Crash Course? Or were you wrong about that? I can't think of anything noticeable he said during like I can for Francis/Zoey/Louis.

 

[wayward archer]

My guess is that the passing will show one character getting killed (maybe random? maybe fixed), to save the others... while in the l4d1 version will allow any character to make the sacrifice (actually it sounded like the l4d1 version will be the 'idealized' version where the person making the sacrifice can survive for gameplay purposes).

The whole thing reminds me of the HL2 mod Zombie Master map called Red Queen where one player has to sacrifice themselves in this room that seals off and kill them with gas in order for the other players to escape.

 

[BuddhaRockstar]

But did he record anything for Crash Course? Or were you wrong about that? I can't think of anything noticeable he said during like I can for Francis/Zoey/Louis.

Nope, I was right- there were a ton of intro conversations at the beginning but not one had Bill-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZAM5tNejI&feature=related

 

[Stallion Free]

I kinda like the idea that Bill dies. I love all of the L4D1 characters, but I like the other three a little better than him.

 

[GoldandBlue]

My guess is that the passing will show one character getting killed (maybe random? maybe fixed), to save the others... while in the l4d1 version will allow any character to make the sacrifice (actually it sounded like the l4d1 version will be the 'idealized' version where the person making the sacrifice can survive for gameplay purposes).

The Passing wont show anyone die as you'll run into only 3 of the original survivors. From what I understand rewatching that GTTV video, you're right about L4D1. You'll get to choose how it plays out in the game but the comic they're going to release will play out their ideal version of how it goes.

I guess if all this is true about Bill's voice actor, the comic could be so they can write some dialogue for his sacrifice since they can't do it in game.

 

[marvelharvey]

I kinda like the idea that Bill dies. I love all of the L4D1 characters, but I like the other three a little better than him.

R.I.P.

 

[Sibylus]

So... anyone can theoretically sacrifice themselves in the L4D1 DLC (as it'll be player controlled), but the idealized/canon version will carry over in The Passing and this comic.

Sounds like L4D1 might be "bid farewell" with its new campaign. A full 5 map dealio perhaps.

 

[Stallion Free]

Why would they let you choose who dies and then provide a "canon" version. I hate when games do that. Just make it so that the "canon" person who dies always dies.

 

[UltimaPooh]

Why would they let you choose who dies and then provide a "canon" version. I hate when games do that. Just make it so that the "canon" person who dies always dies.

Cause it might not be fun for the players?

Which should go over any kind of story, especially when L4D never really had one.

 

[zombieshavebrains]

Doesn't it seem a bit obvious if it would be Bill to die? The typical "old man who has already lived a good life" type character? It has to be Francis cause he's the asshole who will do something nice for once.

 

[Sibylus]

Why would they let you choose who dies and then provide a "canon" version. I hate when games do that. Just make it so that the "canon" person who dies always dies.

Disclaimer: I don't know if this is actually the case, I'm speculating.

If the canon death always happens in play, maybe that doomed character gets a bonus or something during the campaign so he/she doesn't become perpetually picked last.

Spoiler

Such as being able to store gas/propane/oxygen on their backs with a right-click while holding it, something everybody else can't do.

 

[Sibylus]

But they already confirmed Francis along with Zoey for The Passing. Since Francis is gonna have some conversations going on with Nick.

They confirmed that? Sauce, I wanna read! :0

 

[Stallion Free]

For all we know, they have the person die in the end cutscene, as the escape vehicle is leaving. Which would completely discount your "fun" argument and the "no one wants to play the character" argument.

 

[GoldandBlue]

They confirmed that? Sauce, I wanna read! :0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llJuCifaDQM#t=0m20s

In the beginning the writer mention Nick and Francis will have some interaction and Ellis might develop a crush on Zoey.

For all we know, they have the person die in the end cutscene, as the escape vehicle is leaving. Which would completely discount your "fun" argument and the "no one wants to play the character" argument.

Watch the GameTrailer TV interview. They said it wont play out in some cutscene and you'll get to choose.

 

[Sibylus]

For all we know, they have the person die in the end cutscene, as the escape vehicle is leaving. Which would completely discount your "fun" argument and the "no one wants to play the character" argument.

Chet more or less discredited a cutscene in the interview he gave yesterday, so it's probably going to happen in-game. Odds are whoever dies won't make it onto the escape vehicle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llJuCifaDQM#t=0m20s

In the beginning the writer mention Nick and Francis will have some interaction and Ellis might develop a crush on Zoey.

Thank ye, sir.

 

[zombieshavebrains]

I also think its badass they're going back to L4D1 and adding stuff for that regarding this incident.

 

[Stallion Free]

Chet more or less discredited a cutscene in the interview he gave yesterday, so it's probably going to happen in-game. Odds are whoever dies won't make it onto the escape vehicle.

Well it's going to happen during the finale at some point and its going to be as close to the escape as possible because that's stupid to have one person forced to die and have to spectate. So my points still stand.

 

[Sibylus]

Well duh, I just mean it makes sense if they don't step onto the vehicle with the rest. Holding open a gate and pulling a Father Grigori, etc.

Probably would make sense if the sacrificed player didn't count toward the escape trigger, so the vehicle could leave before the player was actually dead (but the final outcome would be known regardless). Maybe transfer the player over to bot control as the vehicle was pulling out so you could see him/her go down fighting.

 

[Stallion Free]

Well duh, I just mean it makes sense if they don't step onto the vehicle with the rest. Holding open a gate and pulling a Father Grigori, etc.

Probably would make sense if the sacrificed player didn't count toward the escape trigger, so the vehicle could leave before the player was actually dead (but the final outcome would be known regardless). Maybe transfer the player over to bot control as the vehicle was pulling out so you could see him/her go down fighting.

Or there will be two escape triggers, the three entering the escape vehicle and another trigger where the person does their sacrifice.

 

[RustyNails]

L4D survivor dying doesn't make much sense in L4D sequence of events. In the end, all four get rescued by the goddamn military in Blood Harvest...

 

[Sibylus]

Or there will be two escape triggers, the three entering the escape vehicle and another trigger where the person does their sacrifice.

They'd definitely have to be tight time-wise to work well in Versus as well as Coop. Or if the sacrificial player has to run a ways to get to his trigger, the others could protect him through a fence or something similarly bullet-permeable.

Hold the gate -> Run to the access switch as other survivors run parallel across fence protecting him -> Open access -> Survivors run into escape vehicle and end sequence runs, zombies swarm the area in great numbers

 

[Stallion Free]

They'd definitely have to be tight time-wise to work well in Versus as well as Coop. Or if the sacrificial player has to run a ways to get to his trigger, the others could protect him through a fence or something similarly bullet-permeable.

Hold the gate -> Run to the access switch as other survivors run parallel across fence protecting him -> Open access -> Survivors run into escape vehicle and end sequence runs, zombies swarm the area in great numbers

Perfect. Tense, works well in both play modes, and makes sense in the survivors can die during any given level from normal play context.

 

[Nabs]

what happens if the bill player is a total nub and doesnt make it to the finale

 

[Volcynika]

what happens if the bill player is a total nub and doesnt make it to the finale

Then everyone dies and the L4D2 people meet NOBODY.

 

[Twig]

Doesn't it seem a bit obvious if it would be Bill to die? The typical "old man who has already lived a good life" type character? It has to be Francis cause he's the asshole who will do something nice for once.

But that's just as cliché!

The black dude always dies, the old dude always looks out for his younger companions, and the asshole always redeems himself in the end. The least cliché sacrifice would be Zoey. Just because she's a chick.