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[vazel]

I'm not your friend, pal.

 

[Stallion Free]

Oh thanks for clearing that up Heavy, at first I thought you were a bitch because of these complaints, but it's now clear you are just an asshole for how you treated Vazel.

 

[Shotgun Kiss]

Silly question -- tonight is the last chance to try the tank mutation before it changes tomorrow, correct?

And if so, does anyone have any further opinions on it? I want to try it at least once, but I heard someone complaining that it was actually annoying for the tanks, since they can spawn behind the survivors (and thus never catch them unless normal zombies or a panic event slows them down). For some maps it seems like it should be fun, though.

It can be somewhat annoying, as sometimes you'll pay an entire campaign where your team will always spawn behind the survivors when playing as the tanks, yet when the roles are reversed, the other team will spawn in front of you.

Also, any level with a crescendo event is basically unbeatable for the survivors, which can break the game somewhat, especially if it's near the start. For example, the finale in the Parish. The tanks all spawn before the bridge is lowered, so you'll be incfredibly lucky to have even one survivor make it past the starting area.

That said though, it's still a damn fun mode. Just play it for the shits and giggles, and know that skill has nothing to do with whether your team wins or not; it's down to where the tanks spawn.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Yes, because it is completely nonsensical. This is a world that has gone to hell. It is not unreasonable or out of character for someone to go from the word "witch" to the word "bitch", even if that so-called bitch is not unrelentingly aggressive.

Imagine a scenario where you, one time, in this world, run into a "witch". You are with a friend. She is crying. Your friend feels pity. He approaches, and is summarily annihilated by this thing. Later, you learn it is called a "witch" from whatever source. Unsurprisingly, you garner some hostility toward this witch and make the leap over the Grand Canyon that is changing one letter to another.

Surely you can understand the quite simple point, that my annoyance with what is said is already based on my interaction with the game; I have made that discovery when approaching the witch when I first played the game.

The reason why I take issue with it being directed at the witch and only the witch, is because her aggression is borne out of you disturbing her, her belligerence exists because of your action. The other special infected act irrespective of how you progress through a campaign and because of that, are deserving of any insults.

But, I repeat, I clearly am the only one annoyed at this.

 

[vazel]

Also, any level with a crescendo event is basically unbeatable for the survivors, which can break the game somewhat, especially if it's near the start. For example, the finale in the Parish. The tanks all spawn before the bridge is lowered, so you'll be incfredibly lucky to have even one survivor make it past the starting area.

You know you can climb onto the fences in that area. You can probably do a decent job of avoiding the tanks by hopping around on top of them.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Did my intentionally misquoted South Park reference not register?

 

[RocketDarkness]

Surely you can understand the quite simple point, that my annoyance with what is said is already based on my interaction with the game; I have made that discovery when approaching the witch when I first played the game.

The reason why I take issue with it being directed at the witch and only the witch, is because her aggression is borne out of you disturbing her, her belligerence exists because of your action. The other special infected act irrespective of how you progress through a campaign and because of that, are deserving of any insults.

But, I repeat, I clearly am the only one annoyed at this.

Wandering witches.

 

[Twig]

Surely you can understand the quite simple point, that my annoyance with what is said is already based on my interaction with the game; I have made that discovery when approaching the witch when I first played the game.

The reason why I take issue with it being directed at the witch and only the witch, is because her aggression is borne out of you disturbing her, her belligerence exists because of your action. The other special infected act irrespective of how you progress through a campaign and because of that, are deserving of any insults.

But, I repeat, I clearly am the only one annoyed at this.

Hence why your complaint is nonsensical.

A normal person would react with hostility, even if it's not physical, at every subsequent sighting of a witch. You are abnormal in your lack of hostility.

 

[ZoddGutts]

As already pointed out, the Jockey is "one of them leapin'-on-your-back-bitches".

Exactly it fits with he's character to say those things.

 

[Stallion Free]

There are witches that are placed in ways that make them unavoidable. You have to confront them. They are bitches.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Wandering witches.

What about them? Do you still not disturb her?

I'll repeat, I'm the only one that's annoyed.

 

[Twig]

There are witches that are placed in ways that make them unavoidable. You have to confront them. They are bitches.

Now, now, clearly we are supposed to simply give up.

After all, it's not their fault they tear us to pieces when we approach.

 

[Rickard]

Surely you can understand the quite simple point, that my annoyance with what is said is already based on my interaction with the game; I have made that discovery when approaching the witch when I first played the game.

The reason why I take issue with it being directed at the witch and only the witch, is because her aggression is borne out of you disturbing her, her belligerence exists because of your action. The other special infected act irrespective of how you progress through a campaign and because of that, are deserving of any insults.

But, I repeat, I clearly am the only one annoyed at this.

So, are you saying that they should all feel sorry for the witch and get all depressed whenever they see one?

"God damn it Ellis, you leave that poor girl alone! She has not done anything wrong."

 

[Volcynika]

I'd rather go back to mic vs no mic than this.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Sandvich has uploaded erotic fan art of the Witch to DeviantArt. He told me so.

 

[Stallion Free]

I'd rather go back to mic vs no mic than this.

They are equally stupid arguments.

Sandvich has uploaded erotic fan art of the Witch to DeviantArt. He told me so.

Yep:

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

:lol

 

[RocketDarkness]

What about them? Do you still not disturb her?

Witch wanders into your character who is not moving and has no flashlight. She attacks you. She is the aggressor.

 

[vertopci]

I like how it's ok to kill the witch, but not ok to call her a bitch.

 

[Blizzard]

Oh thanks for clearing that up Heavy, at first I thought you were a bitch because of these complaints, but it's now clear you are just an asshole for how you treated Vazel.

Did my intentionally misquoted South Park reference not register?

I don't even watch South Park and I'm pretty sure I've heard the reference, if it makes you feel any better. For those who aren't familiar, try http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=I'm not your friend, buddy

 

[Scythesurge]

I like how it's ok to kill the witch, but not ok to call her a bitch.

It's not ok to call her a bitch because then she'll hear you and get startled and kill you, so yeah it's ok to kill her rather than call her a bitch.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

One action is done out of necessity the other from volition.

I'm intrigued now, how many of you guys kill witches that pose no threat?

Not that doing so makes you out to be some sort of monster, just intrigued to hear of people's playing styles.

 

[Stallion Free]

One action is done out of necessity the other from volition.

I'm intrigued now, how many of you guys kill witches that pose no threat?

Not that doing so makes you out to be some sort of monster, just intrigued to hear of people's playing styles.

I kill every witch I find. My group gets a thrill out of the melee gang bang take down.

 

[DarkKyo]

Does anyone else hate when Coach refers to the witch as that 'bitch'?

No, that's very silly to hate that... because she is one. It's not just because she's female.. she's a grotesque female at the level of an animal, so yes, she is a bitch in my eyes.

 

[Twig]

No, that's very silly to hate that... because she is one. It's not just because she's female.. she's a grotesque female at the level of an animal, so yes, she is a bitch in my eyes.

Animals have feelings too. PETA would be appalled.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

This thread (and discussion of Witches) reminds me of the really sad Sacrifice grafiti

"We heard mom crying in a ditch. When dad went to get her, she killed him. She's one of them now"



It depresses me a little.

 

[Fox1304]

You must play Hard Rain in realism mode, no other way to play that campaign.

Never tried realism, but I will.
It's like no auras, no indications etc ?

 

[RocketDarkness]

One action is done out of necessity the other from volition.

I'm intrigued now, how many of you guys kill witches that pose no threat?

Not that doing so makes you out to be some sort of monster, just intrigued to hear of people's playing styles.

Of course. You never known when a stray bullet or grenade might trigger her at the worst possible moment. Shotgun: apply directly to the forehead.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Never tried realism, but I will.
It's like no auras, no indications etc ?

Yes exactly, no outlines on anything so co-op is key. Some hairy moments when you don't know where people are exactly.

Are you playing on pc or 360?

Forgive me if you've said already.

 

[HK-47]

Blood Harvest is better.

Blood Harvest is a less awesome Death Toll

 

[HK-47]

No, that's very silly to hate that... because she is one. It's not just because she's female.. she's a grotesque female at the level of an animal, so yes, she is a bitch in my eyes.

Weirdo

 

[DarkKyo]

Animals have feelings too. PETA would be appalled.

It's the definition of a female dog, no hard feelings there. "Bitch" packs way more punch for you people who are offended than it should. Someone was arguing that she's not an antagonistic character? I think by nature the intelligent/special infected are just malevolent for logical reasons and she is included in that bunch. Even if she only bugs you if you bug her, she REALLY overreacts and that's a product of her mutation. Classify her as an animal because that's what she has become. She's a bitch.

 

[Twig]

Blood Harvest is a less awesome Death Toll

Death Toll is indeed the best..

It's the definition of a female dog, no hard feelings there. "Bitch" packs way more punch for you people who are offended than it should. Someone was arguing that she's not an antagonistic character? I think by nature the intelligent/special infected are just malevolent for logical reasons and she is included in that bunch. Even if she only bugs you if you bug her, she REALLY overreacts and that's a product of her mutation. Classify her as an animal because that's what she has become. She's a bitch.

There's only one guy.

 

[DarkKyo]

Death Toll is indeed the best..

There's only one guy.

No, I saw on the other page a couple guys were bugged.

 

[Twig]

No, I saw on the other page a couple guys were bugged.

Fairly certain that was mockery.

 

[MoFuzz]

Never tried realism, but I will.
It's like no auras, no indications etc ?

- No outlines for your teammates, you have to call out to your team if you need help
- common infected can sustain more damage to body, but are suceptible to headshots
- no health packs other than the one you spawn with
- no respawn closets, dead survivors can only be defibed, otherwise they will respawn at next map.
- witch is even more of a bitch since she kills in one hit as opposed to just incap.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Yeah it's definitely just me.

Agree to disagree; like the meaning of San Diego.

 

[DarkKyo]

Yeah it's definitely just me.

Agree to disagree; like the meaning of San Diego.

Sure.. just don't take it personally. Also, I'm just curious, and please don't take this the wrong way... are you female?

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Sure.. just don't take it personally. Also, I'm just curious, and please don't take this the wrong way... are you female?

I don't really see how that's relevant.

But, to satisfy your curiosity I am

Spoiler

not

 

[Lumine]

Ì'm pretty sure if I was caught in a zombie apocalypse I'd be using much more offensive language than that. :O

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

As would I.

 

[Twig]

As would I.

...

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

Yeah I think people haven't quite understood the point I was making, so I won't mention it again.

 

[Twig]

No, we get it, it just doesn't make any goddamn sense.

 

[Scythesurge]

I got the Anchorman reference but I did not get any point.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

This is fast turning into a pantomime of me saying you haven't quite understood and you protesting that you have.

 

[Stallion Free]

It was just a really pointless, obscure thing to bitch about. There are bigger better things, like Twig sucking at the game.

 

[RocketDarkness]

It was just a really pointless, obscure thing to bitch about. There are bigger better things, like Twig sucking at the game.

Or me being hit by fifteen chargers in a row last night.

 

[Heavy's Sandvich]

It was only ever meant to see whether others shared my oversensitive nature regarding the witch, which has been proven quite thoroughly that no-one else does.

 

[Twig]

It was just a really pointless, obscure thing to bitch about. There are bigger better things, like Twig sucking at the game.

We only ever played together once, ages ago, in L4D1, HOW DO YOU KNOW I SUCK AT THE GAME.

This is fast turning into a pantomime of me saying you haven't quite understood and you protesting that you have.

And thus it shall remain, forever in our hearts, a memory of good times long passed.