And your point?
Legend of Zelda Wii U Gameplay Demo
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And your point?
PooBone
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PS3 wasn't running last gen hardware and no third party support.
ReyVGM
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Unless there's another segment to the east or north, this seems to be the complete map. Notice how when they zoomed out for the last time, the icon on the touchscreen turned off.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Holy shit lmfao.Another clear sign of downgrade is the fact that the game dosent run on full screen anymore. The playable area is now only a small box to the left, while the rest of the screen is taken by the image of two man talking. Here´s proof
Compare it to the footage shown at e3 and you will notice that the old version uses the full screen, instead of the terrible downgrade we see now
How is showing valid criticism being a hater? smh.
I agree that the world looks sort of lifeless. Maybe expected as it's a Zelda game, sure, but it's true nonetheless.
Also, the graphics look extremely subpar from the first trailer :/
Yeah I noticed that too.
Quite wierd IMO, as this new Link looks a fair bit younger than TP Link- I would say he was around 14-15 years old judging by the E3 trailer.
He definitely doesn't seem old enough to have such a deep, fully developed voice like that.
I'm thinking maybe it's just a placeholder for now, seeing as that one sound clip was used to cover every single effort noise in the showing.
Mango The Magician
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Yeah for the slow mo.
It's the same voice they've used since TP, I think, plus I don't think he's younger I think it's just a different artstyle, I mean they said that they're drawing from Japanese animation and Link looks almost to a tee like the main character from Princess Mononoke, even has the same eye shape and eyebrow thickness that the MC from that movie does, which says a lot considering that's the only real thing they changed about Link's face.
Colonel Mustard
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The PS3 was also a profit-devouring disaster from a company that's hemorrhaged money for 10 years straight...yet was still supported by Sony.
Nintendo doesn't lose money on the hardware anymore and it's profit from software doesn't operate within the same 'razor thin margin' mentality that other companies operate within.
AgentOtaku
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No Skyward Sword waggle, so this is already superior 
MisterGrey3000
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Tbqh, I freakin' love SS but if I could go back in time and somehow become it's director I would actually drop the whole interactive sky overworld/bird mount concept.
There really wasn't much do in the Sky (probably thanks to the OG Wii's hardware), and the goddess cube collectibles would have been right at home in the fantastically designed untamed dungeon-like Hyrule. The game really could have gotten by on Skyloft (with Bamboo Island, The Lumpy Pumpkin, and Fun Fun Island connected to it of course) being the only "secondary" interactive overworld; the sky should have just been a thematic element.
I would basically make it so Link travels down into the overworld by dropping through some sort of pool/door on the floor (think, the entrance to Hazy Maze Cave in Mario 64) once he meets Fi inside the statue of the goddess. From then on the game would basically be the same, but you'd be stuck in Hyrule (moving from place to place through areas by traveling through hidden passage ways) until you complete the Lanayru Mine dungeon. Once he/she does that they'll be able to use the bird statues to return back to Skyloft.
Spieler Eins
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That no one would try to keep a flop of this proportions alive. There's some alibi support left, because what else can they say right now. But a new platform will replace this thing in 2016 and take the major titles like Zelda, even if only as multiplat (at first). It bombed so hard, not even GCN is a good comparison anymore. Most of the WiiUs sold are still from launch.
The first trailer likely just got its second detail pass done for E3, since it was just a small area. Nintendo probably didn't feel the need to go over all possible areas Aonuma could visit in an ad-hoc gameplay session, so what you see in the video should just be the first detail pass, aka "there should be a forest here," "there should be grass here." This game is obviously still in alpha.
TheMoon
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Love the animation on the wild horse next to Link. Unfortunately, Epona's tail looks a bit TressFX-y at points, haha
Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild horseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
Couuuuuuuldn't draaag me aawaaaaaaayyyyyyy!
Wrong:
Looks like it sold 425,000 at launch.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/183276/The_Wii_U_launch_by_the_numbers.php
Even if it had been doing worse this whole time and not showing improvement, you have no evidence of them dropping support after 2015. The only fact we have is that they haven't stopped supporting it yet.
Another clear sign of downgrade is the fact that the game dosent run on full screen anymore. The playable area is now only a small box to the left, while the rest of the screen is taken by the image of two man talking. Here´s proof
Compare it to the footage shown at e3 and you will notice that the old version uses the full screen, instead of the terrible downgrade we see now
The sky isn't like Peach's castle. Peaches castle was full of paintings that teleport you to different worlds. In Skyward Sword the sky is literally just the sky above the surface areas. You fly over them and drop in. Mechanically it's no different from the other 3D Zelda overworlds: you have a vast empty hub that you have to cross to reach themed linear areas. All SS really did differently was that the themed linear areas actually gave you a challenge to reach your destinations.
Thunder Monkey
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There's a flop... and then there's WiiU.
I have admitted WiiU might have five years on the market. But I wager a successor will be out by the end of year four regardless. And it wouldn't be the first time Nintendo had a four year generation. The DS launched in GBA's fourth year. The GBA was massively successful. Still only got four years. WiiU is something not salvageable. Zelda WiiU will be lucky to have a final unit tally around Skyward Sword. I'd expect it to be much lower myself.
But this has gotten completely off track. I originally said this will be WiiU's swan song. I very much believe it. Last big game for the system, and likely the title that defines the platforms software library.
I really love my Zelda though.
Not happening imo.
If they launched a new console in 2016, it would be one of the worst console launches gamewise. Especially considering supporting the 4DS too.
Dang...what thread am I in anyway??
Jaded Alyx
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No Skyward Sword waggle, so this is already superior
There is 'waggle' in Skyward Sword. If you're waggling, then you're doing it wrong
Another clear sign of downgrade is the fact that the game dosent run on full screen anymore. The playable area is now only a small box to the left, while the rest of the screen is taken by the image of two man talking. Here´s proof
Compare it to the footage shown at e3 and you will notice that the old version uses the full screen, instead of the terrible downgrade we see now
180p eh. I guess Nintendo didn't see that other 0
Thunder Monkey
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Damn right.There is 'waggle' in Skyward Sword. If you're waggling, then you're doing it wrong
I love Skyward Sword.
There is 'waggle' in Skyward Sword. If you're waggling, then you're doing it wrong
hated the forced controls in skyward sword. Especially the awful swimming.
I am glad this game will have the superior combat system again.
Thunder Monkey
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Twilightzoney
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Ahh I just figure since Skyward Sword did it and seeing this too might make it seem like they might follow that trend for 3d Zelda games compared to the 2d ones.
IceDoesntHelp
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But guys, the cape is clipping through the shield.
Worst game ever confirmed.
Worst game ever confirmed.
Thunder Monkey
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I find the swimming unnerving because of the disconnect. Floating controls are good, underwater controls are great (best underwater swimming since Endless Ocean), but they are controlled by separate hands. Floating on the analog stick, and underwater with motion. Both work perfectly, but disconnect remains because of input differences.
Still can't believe such a limited combat system is considered the superior one. When we had much more involved in the last release.
But motion!
Learn to arms!
John Harker
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Stop talking about hardware sales in this thread.
Please see the thread title for what should be discussed.
Please see the thread title for what should be discussed.
electroshockwave
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The poster you're quoting is exaggerating but not that far off. The numbers you posted are from one month in one country. Post 2012 Wii U sales fell off a cliff and stagnated on a system that had the market to itself for a whole year. For a long time the sales from the launch period were the majority of the sales. And I think it's only some time this year that has changed. The system is below Dreamcast/Gamecube numbers. It's one thing to like Nintendo and their games but how hard the Wii U has flopped is not up for debate.
EDIT John harker's right. This isn't what I came in here for.
Thunder Monkey
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James Scott
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Not sure if I've mentioned this already, but man...I love the character models in this game. The shading looks really fantastic on them.
brandonh83
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Perhaps I'm being incredibly daft especially since I can't personally relate to the negativity concerning Skyward's lower world, but I thought it was pretty packed and linear while still having open areas and secrets all over the place-- therefore it confuses me to see people ragging on both this type of overworld and the more gameplay-oriented structure of Skyward.
I don't want to be dismissive of opinions but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It seems to be either too big and empty to too small and linear. Personally I think it's probably a huge challenge to justify the environmental real estate with something of interest every square foot.
I'm sure there could be a compromise of some sort I guess, but I feel like people are so hard on Zelda that I'm not sure anything could satisfy everyone, so I leave it to their instincts.
I don't want to be dismissive of opinions but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It seems to be either too big and empty to too small and linear. Personally I think it's probably a huge challenge to justify the environmental real estate with something of interest every square foot.
I'm sure there could be a compromise of some sort I guess, but I feel like people are so hard on Zelda that I'm not sure anything could satisfy everyone, so I leave it to their instincts.
Interceptor
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With Smash, Toad, Bayo and MK8 out in the wild, there is no way we won´t see this again until E3.
We will see more in the January direct.
We will see more in the January direct.
MisterGrey3000
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Hmmm...the motion-controlled sword mechanics actually made LoZ's combat a lot more unique and engaging in SS imo; a lot of the enemy designs were really inspired and I enjoyed the ways in which they required the player to interact with them.
Another poster said that she/he saw Zelda as a simple generic action game, and tbqh if the pre-Skyward Sword fighting mechanics were the bulk of these games his opinion would be on point; while mechanically sound, the combat in Zelda is just flashy at best and bare-bones/"button mashy" at worst.
combat was never a problem in earlier zeldas. If it aint broke, dont fix it. And you can still have a deep combat system without the motion controls.
Thunder Monkey
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There were some textures that I don't think completely fit the style, overall though I'd expand that to almost all assets in the world.
Skyward Sword is still the bar for Zelda visuals in my opinion. But this game... what little we've seen, is just beautiful.
You can, not sure how that applies to Zelda though. Combat has been pretty vapid by industry standards since the GCN era. Wasn't until Skyward Sword that the combat system had any real degree of strategy to it.
MisterHero
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It's either the edge of the map or it's hiding other islands like in Zelda II
chertipros
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I hope they don't bite off more than they can chew with this huge open world. I'd rather have a nice tightly designed game than a horse riding simulator
Or maybe it's lake Hylia and theres land on the other sides
Splatoon? Xenoblade? I could see those taking the focus away as Nintendo's "big game" in the January direct
James Scott
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I'm mostly talking about Link and the horse's shading. It's like the prettiest parts of Wind Waker HD but all the time. It doesn't match the terrain 100%, but I think the terrain looks pretty gorgeous too aside from some weird vertical rock textures, especially that grass. That has to be some of the nicest video game grass I've seen in awhile.
Yeah I noticed that too, thought it was just me.
Thunder Monkey
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Most voluminous grass I've seen in any videogame until GTAV PS4... or modded PC titles. Lacking in diversity, but more than makes up for it with volume and interactivity.
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