Let's look back: Grand Theft Auto San Andreas

DRock

has yet to tasted the golden nectar that is tag
I'm a little perturbed by the fact that everyone who prefers the other settings to the "hood" setting at the beginning of SA is being labelled a racist.

The whole "I can't relate to thug life/a black person" thing is stupid, but there's nothing wrong with preferring one setting stylistically to another.

It's really stupid to complain about the "gangsta" setting because it is really only the first third of the game that is "gangsta" like and the rest is in the country, san fierro, and las ventura.
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I wish I played more of it back in the day. I got it launch day and spent maybe like 3 hours with it. Halo 2 and WoW were just too strong.
 

Deprive

Member
RCBaron-GTAVC-front.jpg

Never forget.

This right here made me want to break the damn disc. Whoever thought of this mission was a sadist.

Took time but I completed :| Shit the only thing I never completed in the game, was that race mission at the top of that mountain.
 

Lord Phol

Member
So just the music stations then?

It's not just the music, it's a clothing and attitude thing too. Like punkers are more than just punk music, same with goths, metalheads etc. This particular way of life represented in SA just doesn't appeal to me. Don't know what more to say.

Having played through GTA3 and Vice City might have something to do with it as well, bit of gta fatigue. Didn't even bother with GTA4.
 

Minyobi

Member
It is sad to see how a number of people still haven't gotten over the whole hood aspect of the game.
GTA San Andreas is packed with great, varied gameplay, and people are only doing themselves a disservice by not checking it out.
 

Hobbun

Member
I've never played this one. If it ever gets remastered for HD, I will do so.

I have a PS2, but it's in storage and to be honest not even sure if it works anymore.
 
IMHO GTA SA was the best GTA until The Ballad of Gay Tony came around. SA aged terribly, and while TBOGT is only an add-on, it's reminiscent of the good old days of GTA insanity.

Plus GTA San Andreas had the best radio station ever, Radio X. I'm sad no other radio station in an open-world game had a similar line-up.
I greatly enjoyed GTA3's Radio Flashback but I seem to be the only one

Also, I remember all the outrage at the protagonist being black, and all the people on forums asking if we could change the hero and/or saying they'll wait for the PC version so they can make the protagonist white...that would be jarring lol.
 

Hobbun

Member
Also, I remember all the outrage at the protagonist being black, and all the people on forums asking if we could change the hero and/or saying they'll wait for the PC version so they can make the protagonist white...that would be jarring lol.

Jesus, what a bunch of racists.

There was actual outrage, I mean it wasn't just a few people saying it? I thought we were past that shit, even 10 years ago.
 

Figboy79

Aftershock LA
I loved San Andreas.

Now, Vice City was fuck awesome, because it had the setting and the soundtrack down pat, but 90's era Los Angeles (or California in general), was an absolutely fascinating setting for a GTA game. I lived in Milwaukee, WI during the 90's, but I don't think we could go a week without hearing about the latest in gang and police warfare going on in Los Angeles.

It was terrifying and exciting, and some of it was aped (poorly) in Milwaukee.

When I heard about San Andreas and its setting and characters, I was so pumped. Looking at how expertly Rockstar had realized New York/Chicago in GTA3, and Miami and Scarface in GTA: VC, I was so looking forward to living out the Boyz in the Hood life of San Andreas.

I'm a black guy. Contrary to popular belief, we don't all grow up in ghettos and hoods, and are "'bout dat life.'" The gang lifestyle of San Andreas was just as new and unknown to many of us black males as it was to, say, a white guy who grew up in the burbs.

Despite the realism, San Andreas was still fantasy for some, reality for others. Either way, it was an unforgettable experience, and I devoured every bit of it. I actually never beat it. The game was just so immense, and eventually other games released that I got hyped about, and San Andreas got put back on the back burner. I had started to replay it on my PS3, but it died on me, and I have yet to fire up my BC PS3 and pop the disc in. I'm tempted to, just to prepare for GTAV.

Vice City is overrated, in the sense that a lot of people seem to be willing to ignore the significant game play improvements that GTA SA brought to the franchise. Much of it unique to SA, and just upgrades of Vice City mechanics.

The feeling of driving through the country side, listening to the radio and pulling into another city has yet to be eclipsed by any open world game I've played (although Red Dead Redemption had some of that feel when arriving at different towns and settlements).

SA is such an experience. It was GTA: Perfected for the PS2 era. I'm hoping GTAV will be GTA: Perfected, for the PS3/360 era.

It's nice to see so many other people with a love for San Andreas. I feel it's underrated in comparison to Vice City.

Also, that CJ reveal thread was pathetic, albeit entertaining. I remember that sentiment being spread across other forums, as well as people I knew personally. There's no way in hell I'm going to pass up on a game that looks awesome because of the race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation of the main character/cast of characters.
 
Jesus, what a bunch of racists.

There was actual outrage, I mean it wasn't just a few people saying it? I thought we were past that shit, even 10 years ago.

It marked my memory enough to remember it even today. I think you can still find these kind of threads, thanks to the Internet's eternal memory.
Granted, there were a lot of young teenagers in the lot. I also remember reading one of the reason as "I can't immerse myself as a differently colored character !" lol.
Black male on white female porn argument incoming ?
 

daviyoung

Banned
OG Loc is one of my favourite characters from any GTA game.

Keeping the big-living dream alive while sweeping crap from Burger Shot's parking lot.

I hope we get to see him 30 years later in GTA V.
 

NYHorn36

Member
SUP WOOZIE!

SF-UR is still my favorite GTA radio station ever. Just driving around San Fierro and the desert at like 2 am listening to that was great.
 

Anth0ny

Member
Fantastic game. I replayed it during the Summer on PC, 360 controller and everything.

My only complaint would be that some of the mission gimmicks weren't so great, and although I'm alone on this, I thought the map was way too huge. Took too long to get from one place to the next.

Seems like it was big for the sake of being big sometimes, Vice City was the tighter package. Unfortunately for me, GTA V is like 5x larger than San Andreas' map, so I'm obviously in the minority on that one :p
 

Hystzen

Member
OG Loc is one of my favourite characters from any GTA game.

Keeping the big-living dream alive while sweeping crap from Burger Shot's parking lot.

I hope we get to see him 30 years later in GTA V.

I just started replaying game and forgot how amazing his lines are it just tilts the whole "gangsta" theme on its head

OG fate
didnt you kill him near end during the go kart chase but would like see a old "hygiene technician" in a burgar shot
 

gurudyne

Member
I just started replaying game and forgot how amazing his lines are it just tilts the whole "gangsta" theme on its head

OG fate
didnt you kill him near end during the go kart chase but would like see a old "hygiene technician" in a burgar shot

No, the end of that arc was sloppily handled. OG was outed as a fraud in front of his agent who immediately sided with CJ and relegated OG to coffee-getting-lackey. This was done in some Hollywood office far from cameras/the public. No public outing, no news story followup, just a hastily done cutscene in a room with three guys. Should have been more.

Madd Dogg got his music career back though, so something long term came of it.
 
That's actually the worst thing about San Fierro. You need to do that mission for Woozie where you swim under the patrol ships and sneak on board the tanker... But you have to increase your lung capacity to do it. The first time I played SA I had no trouble, and just got right into it, but every other time I played (because I never swam in those other play throughs) I had to increase my lung capacity and swimming ability.. ugh. It was such a chore. Basically just an hour of diving into the water, going to the last breath, swimming up, over and over again.

I did that mission with my lung capacity at a a low level on the ps2. When i played it on pc recently i built up my lung capacity over time between missions, once i started unlocking access to the larger areas i made it a point to go swimming after each mission, return to the save house, do another mission, swim again, save again etc.

Even then my lung capacity was still not full (about 50% by the time i had to do that mission), but managed it easily.

Noticed the trouble with the controller, i wound up using the kb-mouse for 80% of the game. I used the 360 controller for the flight school missions and general flying missions after that.
 
How you going to make this thread, and not post a link to the reveal thread.

Shit is hilarious even today.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=820
I'm at a loss.

How the fuck can people be that unrepentantly fucking stupid?

*gaming forum for gamers

oh right...

makes me a little less bothered by how PC everything is becoming these days, to know that ten years ago people would even say stupid goddamn shit like that. You don't want to play because you can't relate to the characters? Yeah, and I don't play Call of Duty because I can't relate to a no-identity fuck whose only discernible skills are shooting, "Follow", and dying halfway through the plot. Makes sense right? With logic like that, I'm surprised half those people play any video games that aren't about 15 to 20-something potheads who spend half their day on the internet
Jesus Christ. If only these people could look back at these posts and see how not blatant their inadvertent racism or overt stupidity truly was
 

Alan Smithee

Neo Member
Kind of a shame the GTA game characters from the past are no longer making appearances, it's weird. I feel like Rockstar is trying to leave their "silly" days behind and get serious. Certainly the tone I get from their stories and environments now. For better or worse
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
that would be great but unless the add new islands like SF and LV as DLC, GTA SA will still be the best

San Fierro and Las Venturas felt nowhere near as detailed as Los Santos in San Andreas. GTA games have always suffered from that. A massive mega city with IV's level of detail and the added wilderness is a much better idea.
 

Hurley

Member
San Andreas is fucking amazing. Love that game.

I still remember finding out that Axl Rose was one of the DJ's in it lol. Pretty awesome.
 

waypoetic

Banned
Forget about best GTA game, it's the best open world game ever. So much content and mission diversity and they keep introducing new things to you even throughout the 3rd city. Hell you don't even learn how to fly planes until around that time.

Agreed 100%. I loved that game.
 

Unicorn

Member
This right here made me want to break the damn disc. Whoever thought of this mission was a sadist.

Took time but I completed :| Shit the only thing I never completed in the game, was that race mission at the top of that mountain.
The brickwall that prevented me from progressing. Even the cargo boat battle was eventually beatable. RC plan? Fuck that shit
 

Toparaman

Banned
I love my dad, but I'm still pissed that he took this game away from me. I want to play SA again, all the way through this time, but I know it won't be the same as playing it back then.

Though, from this thread, it sounds like the game has held up well, so maybe I'll give it a shot some time. Though with GTA V on the horizon, who knows when that will happen.
 
Best GTA ever. That's really all I can say. To this day, no other game has made me so hyped like back then. 2004 was a great year for gaming.
 

Figboy79

Aftershock LA
San Fierro and Las Venturas felt nowhere near as detailed as Los Santos in San Andreas. GTA games have always suffered from that. A massive mega city with IV's level of detail and the added wilderness is a much better idea.

I agree. I remember being so pumped when I finally got to the portion of SA where I could drive to San Fierro, only to be slightly disappointed with how small it felt in relation to Los Santos. Las Venturas was the same.

I'd rather have one densely packed, realistic city with a lot of wilderness and countryside (equally dense and packed), than a few average cities thrown in there just to feel bigger. In my everyday life, I'm not traveling from city to city, but I've often taken nice drives around Los Angeles and the surrounding areas just to take in the sights and break up the monotony before returning to the big city. I think GTAV will have that feeling for me as well. After dicking around in the wilderness, returning to Los Santos should still be a great feeling.

Also, I don't know how many of you have ever been to Los Angeles, but as much as I'm terrified of flying, the sight of flying into Los Angeles at night always blows me away. Just the sheer size of the city, and all of the lights below. It's something else to behold. Looking at some of the screens I've seen of Los Santos at night in GTAV gives me that grand sense of scale.

Anyway, back to San Andreas. So far, it's still my favorite GTA out of the bunch. Followed by Vice City, Chinatown Wars, GTA3, and GTAIV. I've never played Liberty City Stories, and I have Vice City Stories on my Vita, but I just haven't gotten around to playing more than an hour or so of it.
 

Unicorn

Member
The RC stuff was optional.

Fuck. Then why was I stuck? Maybe I need to go back. At that point I played that game every day after school, just to relax. Load it up, open the garage, then cruise around with custom soundtrack (xbox) for a couple hours, just breezing between traffic on the highways. This daily catharsis went on for months up until a few months before GTA 4 released.

These games for me become just "drive around the town, listening to music" games. Liberty City isn't as fun to drive in as San Andreas, so I think that's why I'm more hyped for 5. That, plus the unbelievable upgrade in scale should keep my driving spirit ready.
 

Gestahl

Member
Definitely one of my favorite games of all time but it's a shame most of the content outside of Los Santos wasn't more fleshed out. Most of the story threads past that point peter out pretty hard. Like the hippy comes with you to San Fierro and he just fucking vanishes for what feels like dozens of missions at a time, it gets kind of messy until the game decides CJ's big time now and his homecoming is due.

The RPG elements had such a drastic impact on how you, as the player, interpreted the gameplay content. I remember spending hours working on CJ's looks, his swimming ability, his biking and so on just because I could. It gave all these once minuscule actions the veneer of deeper meaning even if it wasn't there or deserving of it.

Of course that ended up working against anyone with even slight OCD tendencies, as anyone who worked to get as much gang territory as they could in the early game can attest to.
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I wish I played more of it back in the day. I got it launch day and spent maybe like 3 hours with it. Halo 2 and WoW were just too strong.

So I went back to my save from 2004-ish and it turns out I played 13 hours with 23% progress. I remember almost nothing lol. I'm on the first Woozie mission. All my stats are ass though and I have no weapons so I must have cheated so much.

I'll probably restart in in a few years.
 
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