By the by, there was no snitch. I was being lazy and and asked Cyan to give a nice warning about it. "yeah just guuuyys blah blah blah bulges / you can post the pretties but avoid stuff that emphasizes genitals and don't do it ~all the time~," is how I put it.
And then you guys all yelled at him, apparently. :|
Well, I'm glad I asked him to do it. That could've been me.
Hi, sorry. I really meant to get back to you on it... but it's a hard question and I procrastinated and days turned into weeks and.... yeah. I think it's partly an issue of visibility. I mean, this used to be an issue years ago for me when we had the hot men thread and it was partially because on the one hand, it seemed like any thread involving a female celebrity had the potential for being derailed into a stealth "hot chicks" thread. By contrast, we had precisely one "hot men" thread that was really easy to check, and threads about male celebrities did not devolve into the sort of adolescent bar-raising "Well, here's an even sexier picture!" one-upmanship that plagues threads about attractive women. So, when a moderator wanted to check the hot men thread they'd check in on one thread and and if they saw something that was going too far they'd make a comment about it.
But there were literally dozens upon dozens of threads that could reasonably be called "hot women" threads - and that's not even counting the multiple official threads. I know that it's easy to get the impression that moderators are always watching but it's really not true. For instance, when you asked me about the Jessica Nigiri thread my first reaction was, "... What Jessica Nigiri thread?" It wasn't a double-standard; it was simply that no one was even looking at the topic. And once someone did look at it, and lock it, I suspect that they looked at the thread, saw so many posts that were on the borderline between bannable and risque but otherwise okay that they didn't want to go through nearly 700 posts trying to decide precisely which users should get banned and which were okay. It's likely what I would have done, unless something was specifically reported that was over the top NSFW or if I happened to see something myself while skimming the thread. So, my impression that the moderators specifically had something out for GayGAF and were letting StraightGAF get away with murder wasn't exactly accurate. It was more that I didn't see what was being moderated in hot women threads, I saw almost everything that was being moderated for hot men threads, and ascribed intentionality to something that wasn't really.
So, yeah, the Jessica Nigiri thread eventually (though I don't know the exact point; I haven't read the entire thread) went too far. I don't know that you can use that thread as an example of what is considered "okay" versus what is considered "okay" for pictures of men, though. But I do think there are some differences between how pictures of men in speedos / underwear are treated on GAF versus how pictures of women in bikinis are treated, and I think it's primarily centered around how the penis is viewed. It's sort of a (semi)clothed reflection of the old, "Female frontal nudity is passé; male frontal nudity is still treated as intensely sexualized. Women do have body parts that are treated in the same way, but their outlines do not tend to be prominently displayed.
Hope that helps~
And then you guys all yelled at him, apparently. :|
Well, I'm glad I asked him to do it. That could've been me.
Hi, sorry. I really meant to get back to you on it... but it's a hard question and I procrastinated and days turned into weeks and.... yeah. I think it's partly an issue of visibility. I mean, this used to be an issue years ago for me when we had the hot men thread and it was partially because on the one hand, it seemed like any thread involving a female celebrity had the potential for being derailed into a stealth "hot chicks" thread. By contrast, we had precisely one "hot men" thread that was really easy to check, and threads about male celebrities did not devolve into the sort of adolescent bar-raising "Well, here's an even sexier picture!" one-upmanship that plagues threads about attractive women. So, when a moderator wanted to check the hot men thread they'd check in on one thread and and if they saw something that was going too far they'd make a comment about it.
But there were literally dozens upon dozens of threads that could reasonably be called "hot women" threads - and that's not even counting the multiple official threads. I know that it's easy to get the impression that moderators are always watching but it's really not true. For instance, when you asked me about the Jessica Nigiri thread my first reaction was, "... What Jessica Nigiri thread?" It wasn't a double-standard; it was simply that no one was even looking at the topic. And once someone did look at it, and lock it, I suspect that they looked at the thread, saw so many posts that were on the borderline between bannable and risque but otherwise okay that they didn't want to go through nearly 700 posts trying to decide precisely which users should get banned and which were okay. It's likely what I would have done, unless something was specifically reported that was over the top NSFW or if I happened to see something myself while skimming the thread. So, my impression that the moderators specifically had something out for GayGAF and were letting StraightGAF get away with murder wasn't exactly accurate. It was more that I didn't see what was being moderated in hot women threads, I saw almost everything that was being moderated for hot men threads, and ascribed intentionality to something that wasn't really.
So, yeah, the Jessica Nigiri thread eventually (though I don't know the exact point; I haven't read the entire thread) went too far. I don't know that you can use that thread as an example of what is considered "okay" versus what is considered "okay" for pictures of men, though. But I do think there are some differences between how pictures of men in speedos / underwear are treated on GAF versus how pictures of women in bikinis are treated, and I think it's primarily centered around how the penis is viewed. It's sort of a (semi)clothed reflection of the old, "Female frontal nudity is passé; male frontal nudity is still treated as intensely sexualized. Women do have body parts that are treated in the same way, but their outlines do not tend to be prominently displayed.
Hope that helps~
