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I'm pretty sure if "fierce" has a picture in the dictionary, this is it.
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LGBThread |OT4| We're (still) Here! We're (still) Queer!
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I'm pretty sure if "fierce" has a picture in the dictionary, this is it.
Wait i remember you too! Weren't you working on some novels back then? How'd those turn out for you? Gosh that thread must have been like 3 years ago now. I used to use this avatar in the Gay and Bisexual thread:
RIP Andy Whitfield 
Yeah, it just doesn't fit. In my opinion anyway. But then again, I'm shopping Diesel jeans so many people would agree that I don't understand fashion.
Just wanted to say that I got a good laugh out of the first picture. "Hey Mum guess what!"
If my Ma didn't already know, I would steal the idea and show up with such a sign at my parents doorstep. That would at least have been funny.
As it actually went it was more depressing for both of us. :/
Will check out the link later.
Captain Europe
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Woah, 25? Does that include shows that have finished?
Awesome! It starts out slow but it's great once it picks up the pace in the later half of season 1. So be a little patient =P
What a horrible situation, I want to hug you right now and tell you everything will turn out all right. May I ask how old you are? You need to get out of that toxic environment ASAP, even if that means you won't be able to afford uni for the time being, your mental health is much more important. Seriously, get out and remove all ties, nothing good will ever come out of this ''relationship'' with them. Once you've done that you can create your real family. Look for a place and job and start saving for uni.
Dark brown hair looks great with blue clothes =P
Don't like the tie, but I didn't even notice it lol.
Wait i remember you too! Weren't you working on some novels back then? How'd those turn out for you? Gosh that thread must have been like 3 years ago now. I used to use this avatar in the Gay and Bisexual thread:
Ahh i remember when a lot of us got that icon added to our avatars. Good times.RIP Andy Whitfield
Andy was great in Spartacus!
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Captain Europe
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I cried too, I tear up every time I watch that scene, so beautiful.
It's sad and terrifying at the same time that someone so strong can be taken down by cancer.
I tried once to get out of here but failed. Doesnt mean I won't try again, I just need to do some things before being able to do so.
Straight people will always be in denial. Just tell him that you had feelings for him at some point, worked for me
don't do it! I worked for me but doesn't mean it will work for you
umop_3pisdn
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Wait i remember you too! Weren't you working on some novels back then? How'd those turn out for you? Gosh that thread must have been like 3 years ago now. I used to use this avatar in the Gay and Bisexual thread:
Ahh i remember when a lot of us got that icon added to our avatars. Good times.RIP Andy Whitfield
That was a long time ago, it's kind of weird to think about!
I'm surprised you remembered that. To be honest I lost interest in it, pretty much all I write now is expository prose and the odd poem. Instead my interests have shifted towards Buddhist philosophy and meditation/mindfulness techniques, and the life plan lately was going back to school for counseling psych, and maybe becoming a monk some day when I feel alright with giving up worldliness and stuff
What have you been up to, apart from enjoying romantic contentment?
How old are you again, daripad? 20?
Old man!
I'm 23. ;_;
I'm going to reach gay death without even kissing anyone, I should be given a prize for resisting that long lol
You are old but look way younger
Captain Europe
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I'm 25 and I've never kissed a guy lol, it'll happen when the time is right.
He was! Such a shame we had to lose him
Yeah, though I did love Liam just as much.
Is that a compliment?
Also, your dream will come true one day, never give it up. You'll find a good partner.
Aren't you my age? WTF?
Yes, someday
Is that a compliment?
Also, your dream will come true one day, never give it up. You'll find a good partner.
It is.
I hope so, I just need to work on my problems first.
What does this mean? I can assure you that I never had to tell my straight friends that I had feeling for them to get them to believe I was gay
I'm kidding I'm kidding
VICTORsaurio
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OMG OMG OMG OMG
That superhot guy I dated/banged the other day wrote today. I thought I wouldn't hear from him again.
That superhot guy I dated/banged the other day wrote today. I thought I wouldn't hear from him again.
What does this mean? I can assure you that I never had to tell my straight friends that I had feeling for them to get them to believe I was gay
Well, not all of them, but most of them react that way. Surely, I didn't have to do that with the rest of my friends, I was just kidding on that part.
TheAbsolution
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That's nice.
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Seriously though. That's great. What'd he say?
VICTORsaurio
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well just some small talk and then he said something like "we should repeat last night". Which left me wondering what part of the night he's talking about. Hopefully he's talking about the whole thing.
yeah, right.
Henchmen21
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Gratz.
MisterGrey3000
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Thanks for sharing!
A lot of those pride pics (old and new) are pretty fantastic
They all seem to range from fierce/fabulous to adorable to romantic and I love it!
Well, I actually do like him, but yeah...I'm not going down that route.
Damon Bennet
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WTF? You guys are a really hot couple, I hate you!
<3
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I hope you find a way out of this situation. Do you even have any relatives at all that may be able to help for a short while, or friends? I guess you'll have to find a more stable job first, then a place to live, and finally maintain a good balance.
It will be hard, I imagine, but hopefully you can pull through. Not having to deal with your father will be a reward in itself.
I guess it depends on where you're from. Because I have never met a straight person who reacted that way.
Yep, me neither.
Btw, my bf has a Chinese friend who visited us recently on his trip here (the real reason for the trip was to visit his secret boyfriend). He had half-accidentally told his super-traditional mom he was gay a while back and that shocked her so much that she put together an arranged marriage. Now he has to marry some local Chinese girl who he has been friends with since childhood but doesn't feel physically attracted at all. Even though he doesn't have much money he had to make one last trip here in Finland to meet his boyfriend before the marriage because they'll probably never see each other again.
I felt so bad for him but I couldn't really tell him any advice because the cultural gap between China and Europe is huge in a situation like this. It's pretty much impossible for him to escape his fate. The whole thing sounded like a surreal nightmare to me but it was very real for him. :/
Captain Europe
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That's awful indeed. I feel for him. Can't imagine being forced to spend the rest of my life with somebody I'm not in love with. At least she's not a perfect stranger to him since they are friends, but that's a small comfort. We've got a long way to go as far as acceptance goes... Especially in countries with deeply rooted traditions.
Yeah. Like he himself said, in the western world we have a culture where we value independence and live for ourselves whereas in China you live for your family. You must make decisions that are the best for the family, not for yourself. That's why he has to give in for the arranged marriage because it'll benefit the family, mother will get her grandchild, etc.
Younger generations don't have as strict stance towards LGBT issues as the old folk so things are changing but it's a long road.
Comiket starts only tomorrow but today I went to three different Mandarake (in Shibuya, Nakano and Ikebukuro - I was the only man in each of them lol) and bought a crapload of stuff already. Here's my current stash (NSFW I guess). Most stuff I already had in some form (Kinniku Otoko, for instance, are for historic value only) and I'm not even remotely close to done yet
With the Chris x Yashiro book I now have, in some form, everything I know Shoutaroh Kojima has published.
With the Chris x Yashiro book I now have, in some form, everything I know Shoutaroh Kojima has published.
Well, my experience is almost none, I have just come out to 5 friends and 3 of them reacted that way at first and had to explain everything. Only one is still in denial but he had rejected me the first time I came out to him so I guess he is just against homosexuality. At least he still talks to me as he has always done, things haven't changed and I'm glad for that.
The people I hung out with in high school, who are my only real contacts these days, were fairly liberal. There's at least one gay guy, one bi guy (me), one queer... person (I forget their identifying gender, it was some silly thing). No one bats an eye.
My experience is far from typical, however, I'll admit that much.
My experience is far from typical, however, I'll admit that much.
TheAbsolution
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Must've been nice, Haly.
I didn't have any gay friends in high school. All the gay people in my school were too caught up with their lives to be my friend. I was just happy to have my small little pack of friends that I did have but that's always been how I've survived in school.
Though thankfully that's starting to change now that I'm in college and have more people to talk to.
I didn't have any gay friends in high school. All the gay people in my school were too caught up with their lives to be my friend. I was just happy to have my small little pack of friends that I did have but that's always been how I've survived in school.
Though thankfully that's starting to change now that I'm in college and have more people to talk to.
The One Who Knocks
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Well, thanks to all for the supportive words and advice. To go on some more specific aspects:
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This is terrible for everybody involved honestly. I assume it wouldn't be possible for the Chinese friend and his friend (soon-to-be-wife) to have their marriage be a marriage in name-only with the goal of getting it annulled (or if that's not possible, divorce) at a later date?
Admittedly the chance is rather slim, but given that there are only three weeks until I'll be leaving for university and living in the city (one way or another), and I've already had eighteen years living here, it's a rather negligible length of time and worth the potential for the substantial reward. Given that the university is, as mentioned, in a different city, I'll be away from them for a substantial period of time if I can go.
I care about three close adults; my childhood carer Isa, my maternal grandmother Alice, and my aunt Deirdre. Isa is very unlikely to be able to offer a place, Alice would likely unite with my mother, and Deirdre is the most probable relative to help but she would be aware that defying my parents would eliminate the tenuous relationship they already have (as my aunt, too, shares my views on my parents and is not fond of them). Friends are not a possibility, all are in a similar position with regard to university and simply wouldn't be able to. If I end up having to go alone I'll likely move to Dublin (where the university I intend to go is) given that there's far greater job prospects than where I currently am.
I'm eighteen, and while I agree that it's likely the most beneficial option mental health-wise to simply leave as is, whatever happens, I will end up doing all I can to immediately go to university. If necessary, I will try and seek assistance from my grandmother and aunt, and if that fails, I have already researched student loans and will try to acquire one if possible. While admittedly it puts a sizeable risk of a very large amount of debt, and thus is not the safest option (which is simply leaving, moving, and trying to secure a job before my money runs out, with the hope of eventually saving to go), I am very much willing to take the risk. There is, and never will be, a relationship (whether I can get them to pay or not), but with only three weeks to go it's very worthwhile to make an effort to get them to do so.
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This is terrible for everybody involved honestly. I assume it wouldn't be possible for the Chinese friend and his friend (soon-to-be-wife) to have their marriage be a marriage in name-only with the goal of getting it annulled (or if that's not possible, divorce) at a later date?
The One Who Knocks, I hope things will get better for you. No matter the situation, please don't give up. Try to figure something out by exhausting every possibilities and look up to the bright future that lies ahead of you.
I know it's easier said than done, but in any case, I'm rooting for you.
You can do it
I know it's easier said than done, but in any case, I'm rooting for you.
You can do it
Good luck, The One Who Knocks.
I didn't even realize I was gay when I was in high school, hah.
I didn't even realize I was gay when I was in high school, hah.
BlueBadger
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Good morning my dear friends <3 I've missed you guys :3. Sorry I've been MIA for the last few days o__o!
The One Who Knocks, I'm really sorry about your situation. GayGAF is always here for you.. I hope you know that <3
The One Who Knocks, I'm really sorry about your situation
. GayGAF is always here for you.. I hope you know that <3I didn't realize I was bi either back then either! But one of my close friends came out to me as gay around 8th-9th grade (apparently I was informed first), and I was like "okay brah, it's no big".
I wish my experience was the norm, rather than the outlier.
Captain Europe
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You're very young, I'd say a stable home and income, as well as completely cutting ties with them, is more important than uni at the moment. If they pay for uni you'll still need to deal with them, only do that if you feel you can deal with their bullshit. I'm 25 and just now starting uni in 2/3 weeks, there's no need to rush things.
What are you going to study? A student debt is not that bad depending on what you're going to study, as long as you can get a job afterwards you'll pay it back easily.
Good morning my dear friends <3 I've missed you guys :3. Sorry I've been MIA for the last few days o__o!
The One Who Knocks, I'm really sorry about your situation
I listened to your Let it Go vid, you're very talented!
Yup, it should be the norm. I got asked out by a guy in eighth grade. It was especially weird since I wouldnt've minded but all my friends were like "You're not gay!" Pretty funny.
BlueBadger
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7th grade was when I knew
8th grade was when I accepted it. And then a bunch of weird angsty shit happened.
It seems you have a handful of avenues, at least. I unfortunately have little advice to offer. The only thing I can really say is to err on the side of caution, and whatever course of action you take, plan far ahead (as in you need to decide on a major and start looking at potential internship outlets by the start of the 2nd semester. That's admittedly a tall order, but meandering for too long isn't going to do anything but hurt you. I've learned that the hard way) and start working toward it aggressively. The sooner you focus your efforts, the more smooth and rapid the transition out of your household is going to be.
Divorce is extremely rare there, and I imagine it would end up screwing over the bride severely.
Part of me does want to change that. The scary part for me is really having to fully come to terms with loss. As someone who doesn't really have anything of permanence (that isn't one of my questionably-sane and untrustworthy parents or a material possession of some sort) it's intimidating to me to face the fact that it may always be like that.
I've been to therapy before. It was somewhat helpful. I took too long to start opening up before I made any substantial progress though. It was a decent guidepost in telling me where to go, though I didn't know how to facilitate the changes that needed to be made, so things haven't advanced past that point. I think I may start going again once we move.
8th grade was when I accepted it. And then a bunch of weird angsty shit happened.
It seems you have a handful of avenues, at least. I unfortunately have little advice to offer. The only thing I can really say is to err on the side of caution, and whatever course of action you take, plan far ahead (as in you need to decide on a major and start looking at potential internship outlets by the start of the 2nd semester. That's admittedly a tall order, but meandering for too long isn't going to do anything but hurt you. I've learned that the hard way) and start working toward it aggressively. The sooner you focus your efforts, the more smooth and rapid the transition out of your household is going to be.
Divorce is extremely rare there, and I imagine it would end up screwing over the bride severely.
Part of me does want to change that. The scary part for me is really having to fully come to terms with loss. As someone who doesn't really have anything of permanence (that isn't one of my questionably-sane and untrustworthy parents or a material possession of some sort) it's intimidating to me to face the fact that it may always be like that.
I've been to therapy before. It was somewhat helpful. I took too long to start opening up before I made any substantial progress though. It was a decent guidepost in telling me where to go, though I didn't know how to facilitate the changes that needed to be made, so things haven't advanced past that point. I think I may start going again once we move.
Necromanti
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Y'all had openly gay people in your schools? How progressive. Two people came out a while after graduation, though (whom I had already suspected, but then they proceeded to date the same girl in different instances). I've known since I was 12, but I can't say it has done me any good; I'd rather have found out recently instead.
My realization and coming out last year happened because of Lucario here, and I immediately starting dating him lol
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