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Thanks for sharing this! Of course it's okay to post here. :D

There's one part that has me thinking:



That statement sounds in line with the other decisions I've seen, but it also makes me question my opinion on something else. One thing that I'd never really understood regarding the wedding cake fiascos is people saying that they don't want to make the cake because they don't support same-sex marriage. While I didn't get as frustrated over the denial of service as some, my typical response was, "But you're not the one getting married and you're not even attending the wedding. It's just a business transaction, and I'm sure God knows how you feel." While I still stand by that very last part about God, I do see a lot of parallels in the first parts of my cake thoughts with these cancelled concerts when the above reasoning is given. The concert could be seen as a business transaction between the band and its fans (plus probably the state in some way), and making that transaction shouldn't necessarily be an indication of how you feel on the matter. Undoubtedly every state has lower-profile injustices that artists aren't associated with when they perform there.

My instinct is to be happy when these events are moved out of these states because it puts pressure on the state to change and gives them bad press, but reconsidering how I feel about the cake incidents, perhaps it's hypocritical of me to feel that way if I also don't feel happy for those who refuse to make cakes. I understand why I previously had been in support of the concert movers and not the non-bakers, but I guess I'm becoming more aware of the subjectivity of my reasoning.

I think my personal dilemma would be partially resolved if the reasoning given were more explicitly, "We won't perform there because our concerts are inclusive events and in North Carolina this is not possible as long as our trans fans cannot use the restroom they identify with at our concerts." In this case, the North Carolina law would have a direct impact on their ability to do business, and they would be choosing not to agree to those business terms. But I'm not even sure if that's possible to say here because my understanding is that the bill applies to public agencies and the concert venue would not be under control of one.

I'll have to keep thinking about this, as I know my thoughts are only half-developed at this point. Please feel free to offer your opinions and criticisms, lettersGAF.
They literally just don't want to generate a bunch of money and good publicity for that state
 

Sai-kun

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there is a fuckload more money going into the hands of a state that is discriminating against minorities when you hold a huge sold out concert vs. buying a cake from a bigot

people with things to sell (maroon 5, cake owners) are free as fuck to pack up and just take their shit elsewhere if something in the state's laws offends them. but maroon 5 (and cake sellers) are not free to disallow certain types of people from attending their shows or buying their cakes.

sorry now im all confused about cakes and shows and i'm not even exactly sure how the two relate. someone please make a diagram
 

Dany

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sorry now im all confused about cakes and shows and i'm not even exactly sure how the two relate. someone please make a diagram

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Elitist1945

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When Friend A says they don't wanna hang out cuz they just got off work and are tired, and when you ask Friend B to hang out they say no because they're hanging out with Friend A.

I need better friends lol.
 
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They literally just don't want to generate a bunch of money and good publicity for that state

Right, I was mostly confused by my perception of the situation.

there is a fuckload more money going into the hands of a state that is discriminating against minorities when you hold a huge sold out concert vs. buying a cake from a bigot

people with things to sell (maroon 5, cake owners) are free as fuck to pack up and just take their shit elsewhere if something in the state's laws offends them. but maroon 5 (and cake sellers) are not free to disallow certain types of people from attending their shows or buying their cakes.

sorry now im all confused about cakes and shows and i'm not even exactly sure how the two relate. someone please make a diagram

Thanks for your comment. You reminded me that I was neglecting to consider that the legal circumstances are different even if the core of the motivation of action (moral disagreement) is similar. Maroon 5's case is clearly a matter of choosing where to do business while the other is more a matter of violating an anti-discrimination law. I see both as a kind of statement of protest, but in the cake seller's case, it's an act of protest done in violation of the law.* That different choice of method within different contexts is important, and I was not thinking about that. Once again, thanks for bringing up the legal aspect.

*I'm discussing this with the faint recollection that a court ruling with this conclusion was already made for at least one of the cake cases.
 

Sai-kun

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oh my god i didn't know that was out i need to watch it asap

also i haven't read much of that meditation guide we talked about awhile back lately :( reading is hard
 
I bought Birthright as it is the easier one and then upgrading it if I finish it since it makes sense to do the easier one first!

Also the majority of Texans being queer checks out in my sampling of their population.
 
oh my god i didn't know that was out i need to watch it asap

also i haven't read much of that meditation guide we talked about awhile back lately :( reading is hard

Thats ok, you'd think I'd like reading, but it is kind of a pain, at least if it's not in tiny editorial-sized chunks. Dat gen-y attention span.
 

lenovox1

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When Friend A says they don't wanna hang out cuz they just got off work and are tired, and when you ask Friend B to hang out they say no because they're hanging out with Friend A.

I need better friends lol.

The second friend is fine and honest. The first friend is a douche that you can't trust.
 
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When Friend A says they don't wanna hang out cuz they just got off work and are tired, and when you ask Friend B to hang out they say no because they're hanging out with Friend A.

I need better friends lol.

The second friend is fine and honest. The first friend is a douche that you can't trust.

Agreed. Friend B probably didn't know Friend A had done that.
 
We just need more black models at Sean Cody. It's sad when Gayhoopla and Guys in Sweatpants ys has more minorities in its short lifespan then all of Sean Cody's. And don't give me bullshit answer like Sean Cody fulfills the white jock niche because lol
 

Golnei

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The white shaming has to stop.

At this point, it can't be fought. The rising tides of political correctness have already surged forth and drowned western society, criminalising and marginalising any with the temerity to be born white. All hope for the future has been lost. A noble race will soon vanish forever. Centuries of European culture approach their end. The beauty of Aryan women flickers and fades, a light soon to be extinguished for eternity.
 
I've thought it's weird that pornhub puts outs its stats like that. It's good publicity for them but I would think its users might feel weird to know their search terms are all being counted like that.

Or maybe they think of it like voting in a contest. Go bears! :)
 
I've thought it's weird that pornhub puts outs its stats like that. It's good publicity for them but I would think its users might feel weird to know their search terms are all being counted like that.

Or maybe they think of it like voting in a contest. Go bears! :)

Yay bears!!! I'm with you on that!
 

hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
i did everything and it still wouldnt work. i plug the controller into my pc and it gets recognized as a ps3 controller, but i cant actually test to see if it works (it doesnt) and nothing will recognize it. i even downloaded the 360 controller drivers and all that shit in order to try and trick the pc into thinking it was an xbox controller, but alas. this is far more complicated that it should be.
Forgot to ask. What version of Windows are you using?

Has good taste in seaches?
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