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LGBTQIA Thread |OT5| Can't even drink straight

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Kater

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I'm always thirsty.

My mouth gets dry during winter so I feel super thirsty.

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lmao, your avatar is amazing
Venture is an avi god.
 

mantidor

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I was half serious, the post came out much angrier than I intended heh

Maybe my reaction came out that way because this coworker from a previous job just posted a bathing suit post on facebook... and good christ if he looks good, I had a crush on him but not only for his looks, so knowing he actually looks that good is frustrating, I was so close yet so far hehe it was completely out of the blue because he is not the kind of guy who posts that kind of pictures of himself at all, I feel he did it by mistake, or it was someone else who did it. That other guy here send me over the edge lol

Well anyway, pretty people tend to be boring once you get to talk to them, :p I've so far enjoyed more the company of us the "plain looking" crowd.
 

Kevyt

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Venture is an avi god.

Das Gato.

I was half serious, the post came out much angrier than I intended heh

Maybe my reaction came out that way because this coworker from a previous job just posted a bathing suit post on facebook... and good christ if he looks good, I had a crush on him but not only for his looks, so knowing he actually looks that good is frustrating, I was so close yet so far hehe it was completely out of the blue because he is not the kind of guy who posts that kind of pictures of himself at all, I feel he did it by mistake, or it was someone else who did it. That other guy here send me over the edge lol

Well anyway, pretty people tend to be boring once you get to talk to them, :p I've so far enjoyed more the company of us the "plain looking" crowd.

Some guys are really good looking and they're far from boring. I agree with your plain looking crowd statement though.
 
I actually did use to feel bad about it but now I don't care tbh a lot of the straight guys at my school are way worse and say some really nasty shit :l
anyway im turning 18 next year so yeah

I was joking. Hell, I was looking at porn on the internet when I was like 15 and that was back in the 90s back when internet speeds were based on dialup modems. It took a minute to load a picture and all you had to go on was shitty 10sec preview clips on realplayer.
 

Grakl

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Any of you watch porn before figuring out your sexuality, and just deny what you saw in porn like it didn't apply to real life?
 

Kevyt

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I was joking. Hell, I was looking at porn on the internet when I was like 15 and that was back in the 90s back when internet speeds were based on dialup modems. It took a minute to load a picture and all you had to go on was shitty 10sec preview clips on realplayer.

Magazines were probably a much better option. That sounds terrible though.
 
Any of you watch porn before figuring out your sexuality, and just deny what you saw in porn like it didn't apply to real life?

True story: back when I was confused, I used to watch str8 porn (only m/f scenes and I would mostly pay attention to the guy) and occasionally I would watch gay porn and my excuse was that I was just "really, really horny". No joke. Wasn't till I was 18 that I finally accepted myself.

^ It was lol. Over 30 gaf can back me up on this. Where's HylianTom when you need him lol.
 

HylianTom

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I'd volunteer to water my neighbor's houseplants and bring in her mail, knowing full well where she kept her Playgirl stash. For me in middle/high school, those few times per year when she was on the road were fantastic.

(Yes! I'll take mags over early Internet!)
 
K who is this dude I submitted a photo of him to the gaygaf tumblr page in like April.

I've already wasted too much time on tumblr why I do allow this to happen.

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... He... Reminds me of CM Punk. Only a lot bigger. :p No bad thing, but still.

Speaking of which... Who do you think is the best lookin' wrestler, GayGAF?
 

Kevyt

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Any of you watch porn before figuring out your sexuality, and just deny what you saw in porn like it didn't apply to real life?

What do you mean?

True story: back when I was confused, I used to watch str8 porn (only m/f scenes and I would mostly pay attention to the guy) and occasionally I would watch gay porn and my excuse was that I was just "really, really horny". No joke. Wasn't till I was 18 that I finally accepted myself.

^ It was lol. Over 30 gaf can back me up on this. Where's HylianTom when you need him lol.

I'd volunteer to water my neighbor's houseplants and bring in her mail, knowing full well where she kept her Playgirl stash. For me in middle/high school, those few times per year when she was on the road were fantastic.

(Yes! I'll take mags over early Internet!)

Oh wow. You two are full of interesting stories to tell! :) What was it like growing up as a gay teen in the 90's?
 

Grakl

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True story: back when I was confused, I used to watch str8 porn (only m/f scenes and I would mostly pay attention to the guy) and occasionally I would watch gay porn and my excuse was that I was just "really, really horny". No joke. Wasn't till I was 18 that I finally accepted myself.

lol, pretty much the same for me. The difference for me being that I didn't even realize I was looking at "gay" stuff for years, I just looked at the porn I looked at. Didn't start questioning sexuality til like two years ago, came out last year.

wait what

What do you mean?

Denying your sexuality even though you looked at guys/gay porn.
 
Any of you watch porn before figuring out your sexuality, and just deny what you saw in porn like it didn't apply to real life?
Pretty much. Though I was questioning, I was questioning lots less than certain things would suggest, "everyone looks at this".
 
What do you mean?





Oh wow. You two are full of interesting stories to tell! :) What was it like growing up as a gay teen in the 90's?

Not really too much different than now. It was becoming better than the 80s but there were still plenty of reasons to be closeted (i.e. family, highschool). Then the whole Matthew Shepard thing happened. That's also the first time the word interesting has been used about my life :/
 

Kevyt

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... He... Reminds me of CM Punk. Only a lot bigger. :p No bad thing, but still.

Speaking of which... Who do you think is the best lookin' wrestler, GayGAF?

The Undertaker.

lol, pretty much the same for me. The difference for me being that I didn't even realize I was looking at "gay" stuff for years, I just looked at the porn I looked at. Didn't start questioning sexuality til like two years ago, came out last year.





Denying your sexuality even though you looked at guys/gay porn.

Me. I was looking at guy on guy action and still denying myself. I felt very guilty about it.
 

Lucario

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Any of you watch porn before figuring out your sexuality, and just deny what you saw in porn like it didn't apply to real life?

I made the "it's just hot to me because the guy is getting off" excuse. Then I somehow convinced myself that it was just a fetish, and that I was still straight.

I also remember doing some sort of mental gymnastics to convince myself that liking yaoi didn't mean I liked dudes.

....then I finally tried straight porn and thought it was gross.
 

Kevyt

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Not really too much different than now. It was becoming better than the 80s but there were still plenty of reasons to be closeted (i.e. family, highschool). Then the whole Matthew Shepard thing happened. That's also the first time the word interesting has been used about my life :/

In what ways is it still the same now compared to back then?

I made the "it's just hot to me because the guy is getting off" excuse. Then I somehow convinced myself that it was just a fetish, and that I was still straight.

I also remember doing some sort of mental gymnastics to convince myself that liking yaoi didn't mean I liked dudes.

....then I finally tried straight porn and thought it was gross.

Straight porn is quite alright. Some of the guys are really hot and they know what they're doing. I was also watching straight porn. You know how they have some ridiculous introduction where the girl will be getting undressed and all of that AM the close ups? Well I would skip it to the part where they show the guy, lol.
 

Grakl

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In what ways is it still the same now compared to back then?

Straight porn is quite alright. Some of the guys are really hot and they know what they're doing. I was also watching straight porn. You know how they have some ridiculous introduction where the girl will be getting undressed and all of that AM the close ups? Well I would skip it to the part where they show the guy, lol.

Amateur shiz is best anyway. No need for girls when there's no need for girls!
 

Kater

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Any of you watch porn before figuring out your sexuality, and just deny what you saw in porn like it didn't apply to real life?
I tried to like straight porn but something always seemed off and not to my liking. A few years later, and I knew that I only liked guys.

And now I never even watch porn. Erotic literature is way better.
Dem Game of Thrones fanfics.
 

Grakl

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I tried to like straight porn but something always seemed off and not to my liking. A few years later, and I knew that I only liked guys.

And now I never even watch porn. Erotic literature is way better.
Dem Game of Thrones fanfics.

lol, I do mostly read porn. Don't watch much at all. Pictures are good, though.
 

HylianTom

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What do you mean?

Oh wow. You two are full of interesting stories to tell! :) What was it like growing up as a gay teen in the 90's?

I was in an all-boys' Catholic high school for the first half of the 90s. In my first week there, two guys were caught in the locker room, one blowing the other (one a wrestler, the other a football player). For the rest of the week, they (and the vague topic of "unnatural temptation") were mentioned in the prayers over the PA at the beginning of every class. Awk..ward.

(I later looked up the two guys in my yearbook. Dat wrestler.. umph.)

That incident pretty much set the tone for my high school years: stay hidden. Hide in school work. Get a scholarship, and get away for college. I had known I had liked men for as long as I could remember (sometime around Bo Duke/1984), but didn't make total peace with it until around 7th grade, when I stopped trying to lie to myself about how I felt about girls. After 8th grade, the plan to stay hidden until I was out on my own and independent was formed.

Once at college (1996), my celibacy ended pretty much immediately. Our college had Internet in all dorm buildings, which was a big deal back then. I'd meet guys online and we'd meet to mess around, but no serious dating was had until I met Greg. I did also meet one guy at the gym (a lifeguard who was in ROTC, planning to be an officer after he graduated) and semi-dated him for a few weeks, but he got spooked and didn't want to meet me any more for fear of being found out. I felt sorry for him.. I'd see him around campus and we'd pretend to not even know each other. Sad.

After I met Greg, we (both in the closet) snuck around for about eight months before we moved in together and began to come out to various friends. Gotta be honest.. sneaking around, making up stories about my whereabouts, going undercover - it was fun. It bonded us. To this day, we still use some of the code words that we used during that time period.

Pride seemed to be a huge deal back then, too. With fewer folks having the Internet, driving to the nearest big city for a pride celebration was a huge event, a chance to interact with other queer folks. Since Ole Miss was in such a central location, it was well-positioned for road trips! We drove to Memphis, to Atlanta, Florida, St Louis, Nashville, etc.. we got to see a lot of pride parades back then. One big theme repeated everywhere? People would travel to Pride, be themselves there, and then return home to their mundane and often-closeted existences. I'm not sure if that's a Southern thing or a 90s thing, or if it's something more widespread.

We joined the Ole Miss GLBA after we came out. Actually, I ended up being president one year, with him as VP. One of my favorite things that we did was set-up a monthly booth in the student union where students could get info on the org or just ask questions about queer topics. (Keep in mind - this is Ole Miss.. where students threw a temper tantrum after Obama got re-elected. Not very progressive.)

Greg had bought a rainbow-striped American flag during one of our sneaky trips to Memphis, and we had hung it up on the edge of the table... that really seemed to piss people off. One ROTC guy walking by did a double-take, turned around, and began to lay into us: "I'm not serving so that you can desecrate the American flag like that," going on and on about his patriotism, etc etc.. to which Greg replied, "well.. I served so that I and others could have the freedom to do things like this." Shocked the shit out of the guy; he walked off absolutely stunned.

Things got better and better, incrementally, year after year. The students got more accepting, especially the sororities (I wonder in the back of my mind if the girls wanted to be like Carrie from Sex and the City, with her gay friends). Ellen coming out was a huge deal. We screened it on campus on a big screen, and turnout was pretty impressive. The Matthew Shepard murder was huge, too; we had a candlelight vigil against hate in the campus' commons - big turnout.

And movies! It was much much tougher to get gay-themed movies back then, and there were many fewer in number. In our small college town, we'd have movie nights at a friend's house whenever a big new gay movie came out and someone managed to get their hands on a film. Beautiful Thing, Jeffery, Love! Valour! Compassion!.. when these movies were screened, it was a big deal.

Our faculty advisor was a French professor who owned 20 acres of land and a nice cabin about half an hour outside of town. About once a month, he'd throw a huuuge bonfire out in the middle of his field, with lots of disco and dance music playing, and lots of alcohol (and some weed every once in a while). All of the GLBT people in town knew each other and stuck together since it was a tough environment, and turnout at these parties was pretty impressive. It was a great safe space for partying. If you had told me before college that I'd be having such a good time in that kind of environment, I would've been shocked.

I haven't been back to Ole Miss since graduating in 2000, but I hope that things have continued to get better.

Forgive my rambling (I'm here at work just typing as I can think of these things). The 1990s were damn magical. GLBT people weren't there yet, but you could tell that things were going to get better.
 

DOWN

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I've never been drunk. Even 3 drinks just makes me feel about 10% more lightheaded than sober and that's kind of dull. I'm sure I'll eventually see what a couple more does.
 

Kevyt

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D'awwww... That was a very heartwarming read! :) It's so sweet that you and Greg still use the same code words as back then. I can imagine it has its advantages in certain occasions too. :p s
So you were an activist along with Greg too, that is amazing. It must have taken a lot of courage doing that in Ole Miss, wind It's still not a progressive as one could hope, even today. Do you still go to pride parades today?
 

HylianTom

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D'awwww... That was a very heartwarming story to read! It's so sweet that you and Greg still use the same code words as back then. I can imagine it has its advantages in certain occasions too. :p You were an activist along with Greg too, that is amazing. It must have taken a lot of courage doing that in Ole Miss, wind It's still not a progressive as one could hope, even today. Do you still go to pride parades today?
We don't travel for Pride any more, but we do go to the parades and festivals here in New Orleans.
(I can't tell you the last time we went out to a gay bar/club.)
 
It's always interesting to read other people's experiences growing up while dealing with everything that comes with being gay, and how different things are (whether more progressive or not) in other places. I guess time is not always an indicator of progress. I wonder how soon I'd have realized what I was (or that gay people even existed) without the internet.
 
I was joking. Hell, I was looking at porn on the internet when I was like 15 and that was back in the 90s back when internet speeds were based on dialup modems. It took a minute to load a picture and all you had to go on was shitty 10sec preview clips on realplayer.
Man, you were dedicated!

Any of you watch porn before figuring out your sexuality, and just deny what you saw in porn like it didn't apply to real life?
I didn't even watch straight porn, I just watched Gay porn to confirm my sexuality.
 
I was in an all-boys' Catholic high school for the first half of the 90s. In my first week there, two guys were caught in the locker room, one blowing the other (one a wrestler, the other a football player). For the rest of the week, they (and the vague topic of "unnatural temptation") were mentioned in the prayers over the PA at the beginning of every class. Awk..ward.
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And, what a story HylianTom. Your stores are da best.
:)

To be honest, I don't really like port all that much and I never really did. It's only every once in a while that I'll go and seek out gay porn. I have other things that get me off. My mind can go pretty weird places....heh.

This a probably a weird question to ask but whatever, How often do you watch porn in general? Is it the main method for you? Just asking in general.
 

HylianTom

Banned
Your stories are always great dawg. My coming out was crazy, but there's nothing difficult for me like it was pre-2000s, hah. People today (generally) got it ez.

I'm amazed at how much things have gotten better in such a short time.

Forgot to include the first family member I told: my sister.

It was December 18, 1997. I told her in our parents' bedroom while we were both home from college. We were wrapping presents, and she had made a comment about what a positive influence Pedro Zamora (of MTV Real World fame) was for younger folks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Zamora

The first words out of her mouth?

"Don't you go get AIDS on me."

It kinda took me by surprise. I told her that I was in a monogamous relationship, but she was still freaked, and didn't warm back up to me for about a year. That hurt.

(Edit: Who IS that guy? WOOF!)
 
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