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The One Who Knocks

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College is great, congratulations to the few people who successfully came out, welcome to the new individuals, and I am going out so have to go. Also the puppy/dog that was posted a few pages ago was so cute.

EDIT: I'm so sorry my rushed post was the top of the page.
 
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Alrus

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Apparently calling treehouse cute or hot or cute is the equivalent of calling the Treehouse girls "my waifus" and is really creepy according to the threehouse thread...
 
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Kater

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The One Who Knocks said:
EDIT: I'm so sorry my rushed post was the top of the page.
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No worries, The One Who Knocks. ;)

Alrus said:
Apparently calling treehouse cute or hot or cute is the equivalent of calling the Treehouse girls "my waifus" and is really creepy according to the threehouse thread...
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The "Waifu" talk is on a completely different level than calling someone cute though. Both are off-topical though so I will try to avoid them or at least keep them at a minimum.
 
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VICTORsaurio

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There's this cute guy that's been to the office a couple of times. The first time I kinda stared at him a few times because he looked like that guy I hooked up with. He came today, sat next to me (he's from the cable/internet company or something lime that and had to work out some stuff on the TV that is next to me).

Out of nowhere he talked to me about what he was doing. I freaked out a bit :p we talked a bit more about what he was doing, I offered him a cookie (which he accepted, even though he pointed out that he was chewing gum, he put it in the trash and the took the cookie. I led him to/opened the door for him when he left.

It's so weird when stuff like that happens and you don't know if the guy is just being friendly or if there's more to it, all the mystery is gone on grindr :p
 
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Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
He got better about it, IIRC.

He's not a flaming homo lover now or anything but he apologized for some stuff after his fanbase got all up in his shit.

http://brandonsanderson.com/euology-dumbledores-homosexuality/

But yeah, the big names in sci-fi/fantasy are all chunky, middle-aged, religiously-raised, white males. Can't really expect anything else.
 
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Alrus

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^ Don't insult Terry Pratchett like that! (also GRRM might be old, white and chunky, he doesn't strike me as homophobic considering the amount of homoerotic content in his books).

I'm still sad that I learned that Orson Scott Card is a disgusting human being before I could read Ender's game and its follow up. I'm still curious about them but I have a really hard time separating the artist from the art...
 
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GasProblem

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Haly said:
He got better about it, IIRC.

He's not a flaming homo lover now or anything but he apologized for some stuff after his fanbase got all up in his shit.

http://brandonsanderson.com/euology-dumbledores-homosexuality/

But yeah, the big names in sci-fi/fantasy are all chunky, middle-aged, religiously-raised, white males. Can't really expect anything else.
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Yeah, but still
"At the same time, I accept and sustain the leaders of the LDS church. I believe that a prophet of God has said that widespread legislation to approve gay marriage will bring pain and suffering to all involved. I trust those whom I have accepted as my spiritual leaders. I feel that what they have said is God’s will."
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Oh well, I'll still read Stormlight Archives.
 
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Dany

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I wish I was the girl.

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Berordn

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Alrus said:
Apparently calling treehouse cute or hot or cute is the equivalent of calling the Treehouse girls "my waifus" and is really creepy according to the threehouse thread...
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to be fair it kind of is if you just randomly drop it in a conversation with no extra context.

not waifu creepy, but...
 
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garyBig

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So I made my first step into the gay world today.
I went to a gay youth group. Tonight they (we) went to the local fair that's in town. Usually the group just meets up every monday at their, um, 'headquarters'.

I wanted to leave my lonely cave, meet new people and I more and more consider myself as gay, so I thought going to such a meeting could potentially help me with both things at the same time.

When I came there, I was rather shocked. I felt like a visitor on another planet and for quite some time I was thinking I had never felt so heterosexual in my life before. I don't want to be offensive, they were just really... stereotypey?
Well, it was rather akward and I'm definitely more confused than I was before. I ended up strolling around with two guys (a couple) for a very long time, talking about shared interests.
So I guess I made two new friends (or acquaintances), so that's nice.

And I will probably go there again next monday. But sheesh, I tend to think they have it easy as most of them just so completely identify with, like, the entire fandom, whereas I am still not sure where exactly I fit in or belong or who I am.

Anyway, I still think forcing myself out the door was the right decision to make and now I probably have some people I can go out to a gay club with sometime or something. I just expected it to be easier, I guess.
 
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Dany

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You don't have to fit in or belong anywhere to be gay. Your sexuality does not come with the stipulation that you have to act or be a certain way. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
 
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Kater

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You could watch some movies or read some books about gay culture, would help you in understanding why these stereotypes exist (and hey, there is stereotypical behaviour in the straight world as well and even labels for these stereotypes).

Good to hear that you are getting out of the isolation that is your home though. :)

Also, listen to Dany's advice.
 
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Blood Diamonds

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You don't really have to be a certain way dude, but at the same time, they don't have to act masculine if they don't want to.
It's just the way you are and that's just the way they are. Don't worry about changing or forcing yourself to fit in, just meet new people.
 
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Pepiope

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garyBig said:
So I made my first step into the gay world today.
I went to a gay youth group. Tonight they (we) went to the local fair that's in town. Usually the group just meets up every monday at their, um, 'headquarters'.

I wanted to leave my lonely cave, meet new people and I more and more consider myself as gay, so I thought going to such a meeting could potentially help me with both things at the same time.

When I came there, I was rather shocked. I felt like a visitor on another planet and for quite some time I was thinking I had never felt so heterosexual in my life before. I don't want to be offensive, they were just really... stereotypey?
Well, it was rather akward and I'm definitely more confused than I was before. I ended up strolling around with two guys (a couple) for a very long time, talking about shared interests.
So I guess I made two new friends (or acquaintances), so that's nice.

And I will probably go there again next monday. But sheesh, I tend to think they have it easy as most of them just so completely identify with, like, the entire fandom, whereas I am still not sure where exactly I fit in or belong or who I am.

Anyway, I still think forcing myself out the door was the right decision to make and now I probably have some people I can go out to a gay club with sometime or something. I just expected it to be easier, I guess.
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Just have to remember that being gay has nothing to do with how you act.

I'm into sports, cars, guns, and a lot of other "manly" shit. I just happen to like men too.
 
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garyBig

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Dany M said:
You don't have to fit in or belong anywhere to be gay. Your sexuality does not come with the stipulation that you have to act or be a certain way. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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Ya, thanks. That was the mindset I had anyway. Guess it was just a case of the theoretical clashing with what it's really like.

El_Gato said:
You could watch some movies or read some books about gay culture, would help you in understanding why these stereotypes exist (and hey, there is stereotypical behaviour in the straight world as well and even labels for these stereotypes).

Good to hear that you are getting out of the isolation that is your home though. :)

Also, listen to Dany's advice.
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Yeah, breaking the isolation was very important. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word stereotypey, because I know how social studies work and I highly doubt that these books could explain how a 16 year old can walk and talk and look like a caricature and say that he 'used' to be bullied on that. This was definitely not just social conditioning or what have you. To me it seemed clear today that the predisposition "homosexuality" (may that be through genes alone or whatever way else) coincides and correlates strongly with a predisposition of "gay behaviour". And please don't paint me as someone with an agenda or any bad will at all. This is all anecdotal evidence anyway, I just feel confused about being the only one to whom the first disposition was given out hazy and the second was forgotten altogether when the flying spaghetti monster decided to build itself some human toys.

YoungBlade said:
You don't really have to be a certain way dude, but at the same time, they don't have to act masculine if they don't want to.
It's just the way you are and that's just the way they are. Don't worry about changing or forcing yourself to fit in, just meet new people.
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My creed, but I didn't expect there to be such a strong gap between the collective them and me. Obviously you also have to consider "who would think of going to a gay youth group in the first place?" and there WERE exceptions.

Pepiope said:
Just have to remember that being gay has nothing to do with how you act.

I'm into sports, cars, guns, and a lot of other manly shit. I just happen to like men too.
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I will. This was really just a silly little culture shock. I know there's lots of variety and everyone can be gay (hell, myself, even). I guess I just expected that place to reflect this more. That it didn't should not change my mindset on this. It just really felt surprising in a weird way. But hey, every first step feels like being dropped into a lion's cage. I was just really caught off guard here :)
 
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RM8

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Just imagine a "straight youth group". Is everyone in the group going to act the same way? Are they all bound to identify with each other because they watch similar porn? These groups mostly offer support and community, but they're not a special club with rules and guidelines.
 
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umop_3pisdn

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A lot of kids seek a sense of identity fairly desperately, and will adopt a kind of 'uniform' in the process. I don't think it means much one way or the other. I remember being a neo-hippie in high school and having white boy dreads and a Pink Floyd hoody, the cliche is real.
 
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hateradio

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garyBig said:
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Don't worry, after a few more meetings you'll be gaying it up just as well. :p


The important thing is to have fun, and not to worry about how they act or how you would want them to act.

umop_3pisdn said:
A lot of kids seek a sense of identity fairly desperately, and will adopt a kind of 'uniform' in the process. I don't think it means much one way or the other. I remember being a neo-hippie in high school and having white boy dreads and a Pink Floyd hoody, the cliche is real.
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We need photographic evidence of this. For reasons of amusement.
 
Captain Europe

Captain Europe

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I think you're over thinking it, stuff like this can happen when the only thing you share is a sexual orientation. One of the reasons this thread works is because we have other things in common as well(games/tv shows/movies/other geeky shit lol).

If you feel you don't share any interests with them, try again with other peeps.
 
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garyBig

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hateradio said:
Don't worry, after a few more meetings you'll be gaying it up just as well. :p
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Yeah, the thought occurred haha :)

Art said:
I think you're over thinking it, stuff like this can happen when the only thing you share is a sexual orientation. One of the reasons this thread works is because we have other things in common as well(games/tv shows/movies/other geeky shit lol).

If you feel you don't share any interests with them, try again with other peeps.
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I like this response. It's so stupid to let the interests of people with the same orientation make you in turn doubt your sexuality. But well, irrational species and all...
 
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umop_3pisdn

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Ty4on said:
So you do have them :p

I understand the desire to fit in and have felt the same. We want to find our tribe however irrational it is.
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I think there's a photo on my facebook wall, but otherwise I think most evidence has been disposed of.

The weird thing is there wasn't really an active subculture for that sort of thing at the time, where I was from, I thought I was being 'original' lol, when really the requirements for going through that phase is like discovering psychedelic rock and dropping LSD once.

Gay hippies are like rarer than real life unicorns though, I think I only know of one other one.
 
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Kater

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umop_3pisdn said:
A lot of kids seek a sense of identity fairly desperately, and will adopt a kind of 'uniform' in the process. I don't think it means much one way or the other. I remember being a neo-hippie in high school and having white boy dreads and a Pink Floyd hoody, the cliche is real.
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Sounds like better times. I wish everyone at my school listened to Pink Floyd. :(

garyBig said:
Yeah, breaking the isolation was very important. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word stereotypey, because I know how social studies work and I highly doubt that these books could explain how a 16 year old can walk and talk and look like a caricature and say that he 'used' to be bullied on that. This was definitely not just social conditioning or what have you. To me it seemed clear today that the predisposition "homosexuality" (may that be through genes alone or whatever way else) coincides and correlates strongly with a predisposition of "gay behaviour". And please don't paint me as someone with an agenda or any bad will at all. This is all anecdotal evidence anyway, I just feel confused about being the only one to whom the first disposition was given out hazy and the second was forgotten altogether when the flying spaghetti monster decided to build itself some human toys.
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No worries. I meant no offense when I suggested that you read up on the history of homosexuality, it was just that, a suggestion.
And "Homosexual Behaviour" doesn't really come with birth or anything. It's just something you pick up, unlike your sexuality, when you look up for idols like Elton John, Graham Chapman and others. And also TV series with homosexual/bisexual characters.

hateradio said:
Don't worry, after a few more meetings you'll be gaying it up just as well. :p
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"Gaying"

I can't. xD
 
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AlexMeloche

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I have no idea how to ask a guy out (or even know if I should, I suck at small-talk etc.), even tho I never had problems with girls. Goddamnit.

MisterGrey3000 said:
It really surprised me to see such a cute guy working at Nintendo; he's legitimately gorgeous.
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We all know Nintendo took their prettiest staff for this. ;)
 
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umop_3pisdn

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Sai-kun said:
My roommate freshman year of college got me into Pink Floyd and we listened to Dark Side and Wish You Were Here almost every day. So good.
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Yeah they're fun. Stoner dayze nostalgia.

Sai-kun said:
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I know, and now I'm going back to school to make something of myself :p

It will be a sad day for me when I stop being able to pass for someone much younger than I am, less people wanting to help me or expecting stuff from me, the 'naive' thing has been good to me so far.
 
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red13th

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We got tickets for If/Then. I need to see Idina Menzel on a Broadway stage before I die (even if it's a seemingly crappy musical).

BTW, to the confused kid in the gay support group, I'm going to America to watch Broadway musicals and an NFL game. Gay men have a wide range of interests so like whatever the fuck you like (unless it involves hurting people or puppies, don't do those sorts of shit).
 
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LOCK

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AlexMeloche said:
I have no idea how to ask a guy out (or even know if I should, I suck at small-talk etc.), even tho I never had problems girls.
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Well if you like them, just ask them to go on a date or do an activity together first.

I find guys like confidence in a mate just as much as girls do.
 
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daripad

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Sai-kun said:
My roommate freshman year of college got me into Pink Floyd and we listened to Dark Side and Wish You Were Here almost every day. So good.
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Obscured by Clouds is godly too. I wish someone at school would get me into any stuff, unfortunately only one girl shares my tastes in music here.
 
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chronos4590

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red_13th said:
We got tickets for If/Then. I need to see Idina Menzel on a Broadway stage before I die (even if it's a seemingly crappy musical).

BTW, to the confused kid in the gay support group, I'm going to America to watch Broadway musicals and an NFL game. Gay men have a wide range of interests so like whatever the fuck you like (unless it involves hurting people or puppies, don't do those sorts of shit).
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So jealous man! Wish i got to see her perform when i saw wicked but that was quite a few years after she stopped. When are you going to see the show?
 
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red13th

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chronos4590 said:
So jealous man! Wish i got to see her perform when i saw wicked but that was quite a few years after she stopped. When are you going to see the show?
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1st week of October!
Also seeing Les Mis, Ramin Karimloo is dreamy (I guess I have a thing for Valjeans).
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Dany M said:
aw :(

I'm glad I decided to grow it out so early this year. Here's a pic when I went to six flags with my niece trying to looking 'super'
and failing D:

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You look great and your beard is so tidy. Mine is messy, I'm too lazy to trim it regularly. I posted some selfies on page 5 or 6, you can see how it usually looks.
 
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