now i really want a scene where max does this and you use your rewind powers to beat the shit out of someone
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Life Is Strange |OT| Rewinder Me
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jediyoshi
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Okay, am I doing quotes right?
she's a teenager though, plus imagine everything she has to mentally process, one of her best friends goes missing, her dad dies, she gets a stepdad that's a jackass and abuses her, and her other best friend suddenly appears in her life with crazy time rewinding powers, i think people aren't really being fair and are expecting her to act like a calm rational adult when that's completely unreasonable
Max thinking about the possible consequences of every major choice she takes is honestly one of my favorite parts, it really forces you to think about how something might play out later
It just forces me to roll my eyes because there are already like a half dozen context clues that you should be thinking about that.
Sodding_Gamer
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Man I love life is strange. Perfect game to unwind with. Also has an amazing soundtrack too. The choice of songs fit the style perfectly. And damn some of the choices this episode were so difficult!
Sora the Cat
Member
I actually think that
Jefferson has something to do with this, I expect a plot twist like that, especially after that phone call he gets. I blamed him.
Sora the Cat
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OwlGoLucky
Neo Member
Agree! The music is great. I really appreciate the pleasant atmosphere in the game. Especially since it's a teenage world with their own hopes and dreams, and it's mostly disconnected from the adult world.
I think the voice actors are doing a great job, too!
OceanicAir
Member
It truly is, which is why I really like books over other visual media, there is really no suitable substitute. I also really like her journal too, despite making all major decisions for Max, it is really nice to know what she really thinks about the things she does.
I think it's okay because
Kate spends most of the scene talking about how nobody cares about her. I really don't see how telling her about how Max has lessened some of the torment going her way would harm her, she would be aware that there is plenty of things going around that she isn't aware about (known unknowns I guess) and it would make it seem that Kate has an ally who went out of her way against the bullying of the school. Besides, those were only two instances, there were loads of others to show you cared.
LichtenbergFigures
Member
1). GET OFF THE FECKING TRAIN TRACKS!!
Frankly, if you're going to be that blatantly irresponsible, maybe
would do the world a favour. Less of a bloody burden. How many times do we have to save Chloe during the course of the entire game before we think, 'You know what, fuck it.'
I'm a horrible person.
2). STOP LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE SUN DURING AN ECLIPSE YOU FECKING EEJITS! Oh no bother, if I go blind I'll just rewind back to before I acted like a fecking idiot.
Aside from that, good episode. I look forward to the next one!
It was clearly asking for trouble, it got trouble and then YOU WALK ALL OVER THEM AGAIN DESPITE ALMOST DYING!
getting hit by a train
I'm a horrible person.
2). STOP LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE SUN DURING AN ECLIPSE YOU FECKING EEJITS! Oh no bother, if I go blind I'll just rewind back to before I acted like a fecking idiot.
Aside from that, good episode. I look forward to the next one!
QuickSilverD
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wasn't it during a sunset/late afternoon?
doubt it, gameplaywise
there wouldn't be much you could do by stopping time that you couldn't by just re rewinding it
flatearthpandas
Member
The bolded was my main issue. If you're really grasping for things to say, sure, maybe you can introduce some extra shit and then try and make light of that. I personally didn't find it that believable or remotely comforting, but that's what happens when you're desperate. The problem was, as you said, there were loads of other places to go.
I did nothing in either episode but hold Kate's hand and tell her she was pretty
yet instead of talking about how supportive I was during actual conversations or more about the people who demonstrably care about her, I'm talking about erasing lipstick off a mirror before literally anyone saw it and erasing whiteboard messages every day. I think she easily could have talked about how Taylor is also on her side (assuming you talk to her in the dorms both days) and how some people at the school so believe in Kate, instead of just impotent pointless shit that paints a clearer picture of how bad things really are.
No. In fact, i think what you did might be bannable. I still made my point in exactly the way i wanted and the punctuation was 100% acceptable.
If you think you can have a discussion about why you think it would be appropriate to talk the way Max does in the episode, like others have, I'd be happy to continue talking to you. Otherwise, not so much. PM if you think you can format my "offensive" post better without changing the text.
RipperGrim
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I get why she does it, besides the first incident the other two are things that could happen to any teenager really. It does make me wonder about the story though
With her almost dying again with the train (The bullet backfiring can be avoided I'm sure, just don't tell her to shoot the bumper of the car) Is there like a Final Destination type thing where the timeline is trying to correct itself by keeping Chloe dead? If we have to save her life again in the 3rd episode I'm gonna start thinking something is up lol.
OceanicAir
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While I feel
that you are right that you could say a whole more about the side (and possibly more effective) things that you did, I think it's the fact they weren't "decisions that have consequences", however, I still think that what Max says would be comforting. Also it would be very hard to to keep track of every single combination of those decisions made from a gameplay perspective. At least after you save her, if you read Max's journal she talks about how happy the school is that she didn't commit suicide and that Kate realizes this.
flatearthpandas
Member
Fair enough, it is surprising some of the things that don't have consequences. It does seem that some of the optional things without consequences would have been more fitting. I'm just about there on my second play so I'll see if I still feel the same way when it comes back. It was just a very striking feeling of inappropriateness at the time. I might have felt cheated
if I hadn't successfully saved her.
jediyoshi
Member
I'm going to just have to agree to disagree by virtue of your choosing to not actually acknowledge what the dialogue is at face value to begin with. Besides, why stop there?
Why doesn't your dissonance start at the part where someone is trying to kill them self over a video posted online? It's so gauche and contrived! You know what someone wants to hear when they're about to commit suicide? Some comforting pragmatism and to be made feeling just a little more alienated in their final moments.
SkullplateMurray
Member
Just as good, if not better. Without spoiling anything, your actions cause at least one major consequence.
flatearthpandas
Member
Is this your idea of having a discussion? The bold was my exact complaint. I don't know what your deal is, but your hostility is ridiculous and misguided.
Messofanego
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Totally agreed.
Totally agreed.
I half agree I guess. I like the ideas of the characters but the dialogue often brings them down and makes them less convincing than they could be with a better writer. I kind of have to look past what they actually say and just go with the general idea of it rather than the actual delivery to appreciate it a lot of the time.
I really am enjoying the game though, despite some glaring flaws.
Even Kate's scene, as well done as it was, fell victim to the "listing the things you did right and wrong" trope that kind of broke the immersion - though I was still pretty blown away by the scene despite that. Plus I think Kate is the best-written character in the game, though maybe that's just because she doesn't have obnoxious mannerisms like most of the other characters.
SilentMatthew
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Found the dialog loop between
. http://ccrookedvisionss.tumblr.com/post/115103715765/so-i-dropped-my-controller-causing-it-to-rewind
I kinda felt slightly vindicated on my
Mr.Jefferson and Kate
I kinda felt slightly vindicated on my
choice to blame Jefferson. Blaming Nathan would eff up my espionage during the VortexClub party by having him and his homies on Max's tail.
wow fuck that guy
Pilgrimzero
Member
Love this game. I kind of wish it was a tv show as well.
I'm surprised some people had trouble getting the good outcome at the end.
Also I probably watched Dana dance longer than I should have...
I'm surprised some people had trouble getting the good outcome at the end.
Also I probably watched Dana dance longer than I should have...
Could someone sum up what he says? Can't get the video to play for whatever reason
OK that guy is a dick.
SilentMatthew
Member
Here's the transcript. The dialog from
Jefferson's side sounds incredibly awkward and wooden in the video.
J: You have to talk to me, Kate.
K: Why? It's all over, like me.
J: Knock off this martyr crap.
K:What do you want from me?
J: I want you to be honest.
K:Nobody believes me anyway.
J: Stop acting so brittle.
K:Being on a viral video does that.
J: Maybe this is your way of getting attention.
K: That's really mean, Mr. Jefferson. You just don't get it... Just leave me alone!
K: Why? It's all over, like me.
J: Knock off this martyr crap.
K:What do you want from me?
J: I want you to be honest.
K:Nobody believes me anyway.
J: Stop acting so brittle.
K:Being on a viral video does that.
J: Maybe this is your way of getting attention.
K: That's really mean, Mr. Jefferson. You just don't get it... Just leave me alone!
Yeah that's a weird loop, I didn't get to see that on my playthrough. I remember there were a few more lines before Kate leaves as well, where Jefferson said he'd like to help but he can't because of the position he's in or something like that, then Kate left.
Everyone seems like a dick so far tbh after the whole Kate incident.
Everyone seems like a dick so far tbh after the whole Kate incident.
AWizardDidIt
Member
I blamed
Jefferson.
You still have no hard evidence against Nathan so blaming him doesn't accomplish anything.
I actually am turning around on Chloe's step-dad somewhat. I think he is a well meaning dick. And while he did sorta harass Kate the other day, I think he realizes what he did was wrong.
Jefferson on the other hand was either unaware or ignoring Kate's depression and the principle was absolutely right that it's his job as the teacher to be aware of that shit and try to help his students out when they need it. He was the last person that Kate spoke to before she went to throw herself off a building because of his negligence. So he gets the blame for this one.
You still have no hard evidence against Nathan so blaming him doesn't accomplish anything.
I actually am turning around on Chloe's step-dad somewhat. I think he is a well meaning dick. And while he did sorta harass Kate the other day, I think he realizes what he did was wrong.
Jefferson on the other hand was either unaware or ignoring Kate's depression and the principle was absolutely right that it's his job as the teacher to be aware of that shit and try to help his students out when they need it. He was the last person that Kate spoke to before she went to throw herself off a building because of his negligence. So he gets the blame for this one.
that ASSHOOOOLE
Sticking with my choice but.....I feel the same way in a sense.
LUXURY
Member
Mmmmmm. I feel like I messed up royally after reading some of this.
Without a doubt Nathan is sneaky, but I don't think he's the true root of Kate's problems.
I blamed Nathan because I didn't really get to hear what Jefferson said to her.
It's killing me that she wound up dying on the root, and part of me really wants to go back and play it and try to save her but at the same time it's best to have a story play out like this and NOT go back. What should I do? If I wanted to, could I play certain parts and have it remember my actions and save?
What's actually
the best choice here in people's opinion? Blamed Nathan at first as well, but I feel like once that unfolded I did wrong. Was going with David okay? I didn't even think so when I did it, Jefferson does seem kind of suspicious...
I blamed Nathan, I reported the
bathroom incident
Did the same thing. He's certainly the biggest ass of all the characters, but I feel like it might be too obvious. They certainly spent a long time antagonizing him for us. Too much time, really.
Same, feels too obvious, I think he and Victoria will both come around, and I really hope so.
AWizardDidIt
Member
I think Victoria might
(Kate's suicide/attempt obviously effected her since she was crying in the end sequence)
Great, now I'm regretting my choice on blaming
Nathen
LUXURY
Member
Exactly how I felt. David is weird and kinda alerting, but I honestly don't think he did anything. As far as what I've been through with Nathan and what I've been told and seen through the episodes, I choose Nathan but for some reason I feel it's incredibly off. And maybe that is the point.
after comforting Victoria in episode 1 and talkng to Taylor about her in episode 2, i'm convicned there's a good person in there
Yeah... I thought that it was pretty common...?
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