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Like THQ but with less junk, Curt Schilling is broke and you can buy all his stuff.

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Tallshortman

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JacksUsername said:
This was the first thing I was going to post when I saw those DVDs. He obviously made some bad business decisions, but the Rhode Island government is blood thirsty over this debacle and are looking to take him for whatever they can. It's scary when I hear the local radio stations just completely vilify the guy, like he personally took all that money. All the evidence points to the fact that he poured his heart and soul into the project, but lacked the project management skills to see it to the end or make the tough calls.
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Tax payers are also out of tens of millions. He never should have gotten the money in the first place but that doesn't excuse him squandering it the way he did. The taxpayer's job is not to baby the dreams of millionaires.

He's also got a probably fairly lucrative job at ESPN. The guy's fine, he may not be able to afford his previous lifestyle but his family will still be living it up as AT LEAST upper middle class.
 
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CartridgeBlower

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OP is way harsh. He made bad business decisions, but to call him a dead beat? Not to be a Curt Schilling defender, but where the hell do you get off? Seems like you're getting too much enjoyment out of his misery for my tastes. This was a bad situation for all involved.

To kick him while he's down and take cheap shots kind of makes you more like the type of jerk you accuse him of being...
 
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Amir0x

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Curt Schilling was really nice when he was on GAF. I was pretty impressed with how he handled criticism of the game on here.

Sad it seems like this is not true of him in real life.
 
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CartridgeBlower

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Coxy said:
the definition of a deadbeat is someone who cant pay their debts and obligations?
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I thought a dead beat was someone who runs from paying their debts?

Seems Schilling is doing everything in his power to pay back what he owes, even if it's more than he has.
 
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BibiMaghoo

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I don't consider this gloating material. That family is losing it's home and all there stuff. That is pretty cruel, even if he did bring it on himself.
 
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dEvAnGeL

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grumble said:
This is actually very sad. I'm bummed his studio didn't work out. KoA was almost a great game.
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for me it was the rpg with the best gameplay i've played, it was totally amazing, i really hope someone talented pick up that franchise and do something interesting with it
 
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Voror

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Yikes, that's rather sad for the family. Shame really since I really did like KoA despite the flaws it had. Would have liked to see a sequel to it with some of those flaws perhaps fixed like the difficulty and whatnot.

Still, there were some bad decisions made nonetheless. I half wonder if the company might have survived if they had not gone ahead with the MMO project and focused more on smaller and single player stuff.
 
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CosmicQueso

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I know thread whining is strongly discouraged here, but the crassness of the OP makes me feel ill.

The entire 38 Studios debacle has been a mess, but many parties are responsible and many have been hurt.

Presenting this story as news would be one thing. Doing it this way is not worthy of GAF.
 
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ProfessorMoran

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Kifimbo said:
This is why shows like Shark Tank (and people like Kevin O'Leary) exist. To tell people the cold hard truth before they invest all their money into ruinous project.
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Starting your own game development studio is quite possibly the worst investment one can make, there are so many better things one can do with one's money in terms of getting a good ROI.
 
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thoseAREmySHOES

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ProfessorMoran said:
Starting your own game development studio is quite possibly the worst investment one can make, there are so many better things one can do with one's money in terms of getting a good ROI.
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I feel like Schilling was shooting more for fulfilling a dream by creating a game than going for pure ROI. Obviously the intent was to make some money, but I don't think he picked it because it was the best possible investment.
 
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Zuhzuhzombie!!

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Curt Schilling’s company told employees it was selling their homes; didn’t
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Some of the hundreds of 38 Studios employees laid off yesterday were hit with a second round of bad news this week when they were told by banks that homes they thought the company had sold for them hadn’t been and that they may be stuck with a second mortgage, Polygon has learned … One former employee said they discovered this week that their Massachusetts home, which they had been told was sold last year, actually hadn’t been. The bank contacted them this week to ask why they mortgage wasn’t being paid.
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http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...d-employees-it-was-selling-their-homes-didnt/


Defrauded the State, bilked the taxpayers for 100 million, trash talked the poor and sick, screwed over his employees, blamed the government for his sour venture...

But the OP is the real asshole.

Bernie Madoff had his defenders too.
 
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NoirVisage

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CartridgeBlower said:
I thought a dead beat was someone who runs from paying their debts?

Seems Schilling is doing everything in his power to payback what he owes, even if it's more than he has.
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Amen, well said. very well said.

Zuhzuhzombie!! said:
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2...d-employees-it-was-selling-their-homes-didnt/


Defrauded the State, bilked the taxpayers for 100 million, trash talked the poor and sick, screwed over his employees, blamed the government for his sour venture...

But the OP is the real asshole.

Bernie Madoff had his defenders too.
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Right, because you say all that like he set out to to do wrong, the possibility that he knowingly did all those things is less likely than this being borne of ignorance and poor management.
 
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DjangoReinhardt

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thoseAREmySHOES said:
I feel like Schilling was shooting more for fulfilling a dream by creating a game than going for pure ROI. Obviously the intent was to make some money, but I don't think he picked it because it was the best possible investment.
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From the horse's mouth:

An aspiring businessman and budding philanthropist, Schilling thought of himself as a kind of -- well, let’s allow him to make the comparison: “I wanted to make a difference in the world and take one shot at getting Bill-Gates-rich,” he told the study’s authors.
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ETA: Another gem:

“If it wasn’t an MMO, I wouldn’t have done it,” Schilling tells me. “If you look at the game space now, if you want to build something that’s a billion-dollar company, the only game to do that with is an MMO.”
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NoirVisage

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Zuhzuhzombie!! said:
He's just following his dreams.
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And the geniuses in Rhode island decided his dreams were worth a 100 million dollar investment..at some point you have to see the big picture, sure he messed up..but start looking at the person who wrote the blank check if you want to blame someone for the state of the ..state.
 
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Riggs

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Look I am the first to call bullshit on anyone .... but this makes me sad.

I am a life long Red Sox fan, and pretty liberal IRL. I never enjoyed or cared for Curt's political bullshit, but god damn he really was a god to us during the 2004 ALCS, and beyond. What he did was simply put, as fucking amazing.

His entire foray into the video game industry is obviously a fucking fail. He fucked up, 100%. But this makes me sad. Dude had 100M+ in the bank, his wife and him + the kids were set for life. And he fucked it all up.

Now he's selling all his useless shit, it's like the final nail in the coffin. The thing that just says, ok man .... it's fucking over. I honestly feel bad for the guy, surprised I do to be honest. But this is sad shit!
 
FrostuTheNinja

FrostuTheNinja

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NoirVisage said:
And the geniuses in Rhode island decided his dreams were worth a 100 million dollar investment..at some point you have to see the big picture, sure he messed up..but start looking at the person who wrote the blank check if you want to blame someone for the state of the ..state.
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Now why would you blame the state? He's a baseball star, of course he's going to make Rhode Island BILLIONS!
 
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SneakyStephan

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Slappers Only said:
I'd buy that... for a schilling.
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Idk if those are worth much, they're a dime a dozen in the xbox advertising thread. :p

OT: how the hell did he go bankrupt when his game sold 1.2 million copies...

edit: oh, 100m loan...

How the fuck did KOA cost 100 million? it looked like a B budget game.

edit 2 : why are people talking about mmos? Koa was a singleplayer wrpg that played a little bit like a singleplayer wow (run around, clearing map by map killing 10 boars and collecting 4 cabbages before moving on to the next quest hub)
 
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NoirVisage

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FrostuTheNinja said:
Now why would you blame the state? He's a baseball star, of course he's going to make Rhode Island BILLIONS!
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more or less..

I somewhat agree with this sentiment:
John Gardner, There is no kill switch on awesome -- Dilbert 5 months ago

RI Politicians deserve the blame on this. They should have done their due diligence and they didn't. Instead they were suckered in by the aura of a local sports hero and ignored what was obvious to anyone else who was paying attention -- video game companies are very risky, and even moreso when the person running it has virtually no experience doing it.
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they deserve some, not all of the blame.
 
FrostuTheNinja

FrostuTheNinja

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NoirVisage said:
more or less..

I somewhat agree with this sentiment:

they deserve some, not all of the blame.
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Of course. But calling the dude a deadbeat, of all places here, feels quite absurd. But no, let's go ahead and kick an individual while they are down and shame them. The same thing people are claiming Schilling did.

Bizarro GAF...
 
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