JustAnotherOtaku
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So, for those of us picking this up that are going to be playing online, what are you likely to be playing more of - co-op or competitive multi?
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Lost Planet 2 |OT| Rolling, Grappling, Bugs and Mechs
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BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Pylon_Trooper said:
Did it have the same save/checkpoint style? I can't remember. That was the most offputting thing about the game in the review.
Jack Random
Member
6/10 from IGN via Arthur Gies
Lost Planet 2 plays like it was never put in front of a member of its intended audience at some point during its development, someone who might have asked "why?": "Why can't I pause the game unless I make my game unjoinable?" "Why can't I join a co-op game in progress?" "Why can this monster kill me in two hits?" A little "why?" may have taken this game in a different, more compelling direction. If you've burned through other multiplayer or co-op options, then there might be something for you in Lost Planet 2. The single player campaign is lengthy at around 14 hours with full co-op support and the multiplayer has plenty of maps and modes. Just do yourself a favor: buy some insurance for the controller you'll invariably throw across the room at one of Lost Planet 2's seemingly endless design and interface issues.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1088076p1.html
owch
Lost Planet 2 plays like it was never put in front of a member of its intended audience at some point during its development, someone who might have asked "why?": "Why can't I pause the game unless I make my game unjoinable?" "Why can't I join a co-op game in progress?" "Why can this monster kill me in two hits?" A little "why?" may have taken this game in a different, more compelling direction. If you've burned through other multiplayer or co-op options, then there might be something for you in Lost Planet 2. The single player campaign is lengthy at around 14 hours with full co-op support and the multiplayer has plenty of maps and modes. Just do yourself a favor: buy some insurance for the controller you'll invariably throw across the room at one of Lost Planet 2's seemingly endless design and interface issues.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1088076p1.html
owch
AgentOtaku
Member
Jack Random said:6/10 from IGN via Arthur Gies
Lost Planet 2 plays like it was never put in front of a member of its intended audience at some point during its development, someone who might have asked "why?": "Why can't I pause the game unless I make my game unjoinable?" "Why can't I join a co-op game in progress?" "Why can this monster kill me in two hits?" A little "why?" may have taken this game in a different, more compelling direction. If you've burned through other multiplayer or co-op options, then there might be something for you in Lost Planet 2. The single player campaign is lengthy at around 14 hours with full co-op support and the multiplayer has plenty of maps and modes. Just do yourself a favor: buy some insurance for the controller you'll invariably throw across the room at one of Lost Planet 2's seemingly endless design and interface issues.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1088076p1.html
owch
I listen to RebelFM quite often and to be fair, it never struck me or sound like something that Arthur would be crazy about. None of them really when they talk about it.
mescalineeyes
Banned
bummed out about the reviews, as the game sure LOOKS fantastic in terms of both art direction and variety.
AgentOtaku
Member
mescalineeyes said:
dude, don't be bummed out. Lost Planet:Extreme Conditions/Colonies didn't review well either when they were released. But when it came to the actual audience, well the games found one and they love it for what it is
LP2 is to me, just more of expanding on what that audience wants ...which really is typical Capcom at this point, no matter how hard they try
BarrenMind
Member
Y2Kev said:
The complaint might be more along the lines of the user interface though. That is, do you have to change this setting every time you start playing, every time you start a new game, or is there a general setting you can make in the Options screen that turns off co-op joining all the time until you change it back?
If it's a one-time setting, I don't get his complaint. I don't play a lot of online co-op games though, so I'm unaware if some of them actually let you pause the game even while someone else has joined you.
Diablohead
Member
Not every reviewer out there understands the LP way of things, but it does sound like a disappointment with the AI and single player stuff, long as there is plenty to do online all should be just as good as colonies.mescalineeyes said:
"God's Beard!"
Member
Y2Kev said:
Japanese people don't know how to play shooters. The reason they're good at this is because it's designed like a Japanese game with hitstun, invincibility frames and weird stuff like that instead of flexibility.
Thunderbear
Mawio Gawaxy iz da Wheeson hee pways games
After reading those reviews I went from "definitely buying it" to "not interested". They explained one scenario in the IGN UK review and it sounded really frustrating. It especially sounds like it's useless as a SP experience, which is what I play most.
It's not the score, the review itself is what's made me decide not to get it... Shame, it looks so beautiful. I think it might find an MP crowd as that still looks interesting and they (IGN) didn't talk much about competitive MP's flaws.
It's not the score, the review itself is what's made me decide not to get it... Shame, it looks so beautiful. I think it might find an MP crowd as that still looks interesting and they (IGN) didn't talk much about competitive MP's flaws.
Ninja Moomin
Banned
wow.... the reviews are sucking.
really loved the first one so this is a big shame.
... lets hope dead rising 2 doesn't suck.
really loved the first one so this is a big shame.
... lets hope dead rising 2 doesn't suck.
"God's Beard!"
Member
I don't care if it's frustrating as shit, I played Earth Defense Force.
AgentOtaku
Member
JaxJag said:
And you know this how?
To be fair, some of the reviews so far is a bit moronic. Eurogamer review obviously comes from a guy who played through the game singleplayer, which is silly for a game designed for coop. IGN review is just weird overall, it has many complaints without actually explaining itself (how is the online play "dated"? Is it dated because it's actually using a competent netcode unlike most other games?), and it has some complaints which makes no sense. Like how the button B is used for different things. Apparently Arthur isn't too keen on games with different controls.
Vinterbird said:
Jack Random said:6/10 from IGN via Arthur Gies
Lost Planet 2 plays like it was never put in front of a member of its intended audience at some point during its development, someone who might have asked "why?": "Why can't I pause the game unless I make my game unjoinable?" "Why can't I join a co-op game in progress?" "Why can this monster kill me in two hits?" A little "why?" may have taken this game in a different, more compelling direction. If you've burned through other multiplayer or co-op options, then there might be something for you in Lost Planet 2. The single player campaign is lengthy at around 14 hours with full co-op support and the multiplayer has plenty of maps and modes. Just do yourself a favor: buy some insurance for the controller you'll invariably throw across the room at one of Lost Planet 2's seemingly endless design and interface issues.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1088076p1.html
owch
well the demos were bad , I loved Lost Planet 1 but hated the demos , oh well
Y2Kev said:
Maybe for you and me, but: For the majority of people, no, no it isn't. If you start a game BY yourself: You should be able to pause the game. Same thing for Demon's Souls: But Demon's Souls has a fallback on "if you're playing online it would be hard to pause the singleplayer game when someone can invade/send messages on the ground to you during that pause."
Dr Zhivago
Member
Sectus said:
It's a valid criticism if the game is crap in single-player. For that reason alone, I'm out.
Valkyr Junkie
Member
Yeah, I've gone ahead and canceled my Amazon preorder. I think I'll wait for the bargain bin after all of these niggling issues have been made apparent. Too many other games coming out in this timeframe.
AgentOtaku
Member
Sectus said:
+1
Dr Zhivago
Member
He says that Left 4 Dead is good in single-player though
AgentOtaku
Member
Dr Zhivago said:He says that Left 4 Dead is good in single-player though
No it's not ...it's fucking boring =/
Mark-Bozon
Member
Sectus said:
Without pointing any fingers (there really aren't any to point) games that stress multiplayer-only are a bitch to review. Some people have different code, some can't get online, sometimes XBL servers crash for test systems... I've also had to play a lot of the game single player only (but also have my fair share of co-op in there as well) and considering it's an option for players (you can even turn bots entirely off, playing the game just solo in offiline mode) it's worth looking at.
Not out to defend/attack anybody. Just keep in mind that for games like this reviewing isn't done under 100% ideal conditions. That's why guys like Infinity Ward host entire days of nothing but multiplayer gaming for review events.
Jack Random
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I played the coop demo for this a few nights ago with some friends, had a damn good time, but im not sure it would sustain for $60 worth.jett said:
also, was there ever a resolution to that rumor about not being able to run coop until you complete something in single?
WickedLaharl
Member
IGN Review said:
Broadbandito
Member
no jump-in/jump out co-op? Eesh. I have this paid off. I have some thinking to do.
zero margin
Member
lol waiting till the next chapter to join up? woooooooooooooow.
Alex Connolly
Member
God's Beard said:
I didn't know shooters could only come from one stable of design, Mr. Beard! You've enlightened me like any attachment to a celestial being should. I personally think there's a lot more flexibility in Lost Planet than a lot of people give it credit for.
Poimandres
Member
jett said:
Interesting weapons? Unique feel? Mechs? Satisfying multiplayer? Awesome boss battles? Giant freakin bugs?
Nope, nothing to this series at all...
Meh, it's annoying to hear reviewers complain about a Japanese game playing more like an eastern game, than a western one.
I don't play Lost Planet because I want another Gears or Halo, I play LP because I want something vastly different.
Robust Character customization, and a lengthly story full of awesome fights to play through with a selection of friends. Seems like an Amped-up PSO with more modern combat mechanics!
With it's invincibility frames, massive hitstun, and controls that need to be learned in order to use them at their peak, I think of LP as a modern day Coin-Op style game. It connects with me BECAUSE of it's classic ideals. It fulfills a niche that most other games (especially full retail ones) don't share anymore.
As a Monster Hunter and LP fan, I look forward to being able to play these games back-to-back with my brother, thanks to splitscreen. I appreciate the idea that my Online mode and Offline characters will share everything, too, and I prefer this to having a central story character. Customization is always something I look for in games.
It's really just so annoying seeing people getting turned from a game because reviewers approach the games in awkward, ill-concieved ways... And I hate it when they hold things against japanese games, that'd they barely even care about if it were a western release... just so predictable...
I don't play Lost Planet because I want another Gears or Halo, I play LP because I want something vastly different.
Robust Character customization, and a lengthly story full of awesome fights to play through with a selection of friends. Seems like an Amped-up PSO with more modern combat mechanics!
With it's invincibility frames, massive hitstun, and controls that need to be learned in order to use them at their peak, I think of LP as a modern day Coin-Op style game. It connects with me BECAUSE of it's classic ideals. It fulfills a niche that most other games (especially full retail ones) don't share anymore.
As a Monster Hunter and LP fan, I look forward to being able to play these games back-to-back with my brother, thanks to splitscreen. I appreciate the idea that my Online mode and Offline characters will share everything, too, and I prefer this to having a central story character. Customization is always something I look for in games.
It's really just so annoying seeing people getting turned from a game because reviewers approach the games in awkward, ill-concieved ways... And I hate it when they hold things against japanese games, that'd they barely even care about if it were a western release... just so predictable...
Poimandres
Member
SAB CA said:
This right here encapsulates my thoughts perfectly!
Kabuki Waq
Member
SAB CA said:
thats some weird ass damage control just because its developed in Japan we should not expect jump in jump out co-op and other perks?
mescalineeyes
Banned
AgentOtaku said:dude, don't be bummed out. Lost Planet:Extreme Conditions/Colonies didn't review well either when they were released. But when it came to the actual audience, well the games found one and they love it for what it is
LP2 is to me, just more of expanding on what that audience wants ...which really is typical Capcom at this point, no matter how hard they try
word. picking this up day one.
(ololol it's 30 pounds on amazon.co.uk that's like half price of a regular game here in europe. bought.)
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
So does anyone know if the save/checkpoint system is the same as in LP1? That was the most unnerving thing in that Eurogamer review. I'd hate to play for an hour and then get knocked back that far when I die.
Anyone?
Anyone?