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[Gamer79]

Look at the insane lines! I do feel bad for the enthusiasts who waited or even camped out all night in the cold to get shafted. Let's get real though, most people waiting in these lines or camping out are cold hearted scalpers!



When you camp out all night in freezing weather and are 30th in line and the store got in 4 units of the 5090 and 6 units of the 5080

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Look at the insane lines! I do feel bad for the enthusiasts who waited or even camped out all night in the cold to get shafted. Let's get real though, most people waiting in these lines or camping out are cold hearted scalpers!



When you camp out all night in freezing weather and are 30th in line and the store got in 4 units of the 5090 and 6 units of the 5080

There was no snuggle room between THEM and Jensen... Fuck'em in every concievable way.

 

[Digital-Aftertaste]

The are actually getting crafty with their tactics. Here's a listing on ebay for a preorder that possibly means that the person getting screwed will receive the card once the scalper gets their hands on it first.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/3264216103...7Aeaxsjuu4ygo2spk/25+/qE4=|tkp:Bk9SR7aG4rGXZQ

Btw the listing is set at 6,500$ USD for the starting bid.

 

[nemiroff]

I understand a certain FOMO around the 4090 at launch, but the 5090..? Naw man... as one who's often "I NEED IT NOW!" around new tech I feel very little pull with this one.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I understand a certain FOMO around the 4090 at launch, but the 5090..? Naw man... as one who's often "I NEED IT NOW!" around new tech I feel very little pull with this one.

Same. 4090 was definitely a much more special release wh9xh has probably dampened this cards release ...

If that makes sense lol

 

[TheAmazingSpiderMan]

This is insane for a few extra FPS.

Nvidia are a piece of work, no way that's the only amount of units they can produce. The fake frames have led to fake scarcity.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

The are actually getting crafty with their tactics. Here's a listing on ebay for a preorder that possibly means that the person getting screwed will receive the card once the scalper gets their hands on it first.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/326421610339?_skw=rtx+5090&itmmeta=01JJXHRGCMP4MQCQ3W2TYGNX4G&hash=item4c003e7f63:g:XGUAAOSwNn9nmUf5&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAA0HoV3kP08IDx+KZ9MfhVJKkCSx/HIQJhaqQwiMDVL3HuYNxV6pqtH7JaHRvfPYIUrsioUMv2bxqropesCOccKwCSsNklvEidlxAF+a3df7QR9SmsJOhO0lxQGm3SFDW1VezqlVqJTLRSw8nB7SVYeTEFXhsAAMwd+xfRdo4Ek7BTvP85NqNNau+V0Qpfms8e4GUGEF1Exn+pYHlEFoccG8Rsvxuj0aitMvkGHHIriL70N6Img9xWUubwJpt5Iq7Aeaxsjuu4ygo2spk/25+/qE4=|tkp:Bk9SR7aG4rGXZQ

Btw the listing is set at 6,500$ USD for the starting bid.

That is the case every time a new product is released. People selling "preorders".

 

[Soodanim]

OverHeat is the person you paid to stand in line okay?

 

[CuNi]

I dont know man.
On the one hand, I'm more than happy that scalpers got fucked in the cold without any product.
At the same time, nearly nobody else got any product either, so...?

 

[Brigandier]

Hate scalpers.... but sadly they're not going anywhere cunts.

 

[Boaty McBoatface]

The are actually getting crafty with their tactics. Here's a listing on ebay for a preorder... https://www.ebay.com/itm/326421610339?

I found this $1599 5090 quite interesting, does this bot trick ever actually work?

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 32gb GPU -Graphic *READ-DESCRIPTION* | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 32gb GPU -Graphic *READ-DESCRIPTION* at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

 

[Cakeboxer]

Hate scalpers.... but sadly they're not going anywhere cunts.

But is it their fault or the fault of impatient people with too much money?

 

[hemo memo]

Scalpers getting screwed is always good news.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

The way to really screw the scalpers is to produce enough to satisfy demand.

 

[fran.fernandez]

In Japan lines also were crazy. Some people even climb the kindergarten walls near the store lol

 

[Roman Empire]

Glad I didn't give a shit about the 50 series. My 4080 got some legs still.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

The way to really screw the scalpers is to produce enough to satisfy demand.

Which nvidia has little incentive to do.

The lack of supply is due to AI prioritization. Nvidia: sell gamers a $2000 GPU? Or use the chips to make $20000 AI accelerators?

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

When you camp out all night in freezing weather for a graphics card then you have lost control of your life.

Doesn't matter If you a tech enthusiast you are just a dumbass.

 

[hemo memo]

When you camp out all night in freezing weather for a graphics card then you have lost control of your life.

Doesn't matter If you a tech enthusiast you are just a dumbass.

Well, a YouTuber making that wait a content for people to watch and making money off the situation would be smart, actually. It's not like they're working a 9-to-5 job or have anywhere to be. They could edit videos while they wait.

 

[Darchaos]

Greedy fucks

 

[Spukc]

When you camp out all night in freezing weather for a graphics card then you have lost control of your life.

Doesn't matter If you a tech enthusiast you are just a dumbass.

I rather be that person then a being forced to use an old ass 4090

 

[No BBC=Anger]

When you camp out all night in freezing weather for a graphics card then you have lost control of your life.

Doesn't matter If you a tech enthusiast you are just a dumbass.

 

[RagnarokIV]

The are actually getting crafty with their tactics. Here's a listing on ebay for a preorder that possibly means that the person getting screwed will receive the card once the scalper gets their hands on it first.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/326421610339?_skw=rtx+5090&itmmeta=01JJXHRGCMP4MQCQ3W2TYGNX4G&hash=item4c003e7f63:g:XGUAAOSwNn9nmUf5&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAA0HoV3kP08IDx+KZ9MfhVJKkCSx/HIQJhaqQwiMDVL3HuYNxV6pqtH7JaHRvfPYIUrsioUMv2bxqropesCOccKwCSsNklvEidlxAF+a3df7QR9SmsJOhO0lxQGm3SFDW1VezqlVqJTLRSw8nB7SVYeTEFXhsAAMwd+xfRdo4Ek7BTvP85NqNNau+V0Qpfms8e4GUGEF1Exn+pYHlEFoccG8Rsvxuj0aitMvkGHHIriL70N6Img9xWUubwJpt5Iq7Aeaxsjuu4ygo2spk/25+/qE4=|tkp:Bk9SR7aG4rGXZQ

Btw the listing is set at 6,500$ USD for the starting bid.

Report the listing. You can only sell something on ebay that you actually have and can ship immediately or within a few days.

I've had a few scalper listings killed for things doing this. Ebay take it serious.

 

[RagnarokIV]

I found this $1599 5090 quite interesting, does this bot trick ever actually work?

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 32gb GPU -Graphic *READ-DESCRIPTION* | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 32gb GPU -Graphic *READ-DESCRIPTION* at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

This listing sold on Fri, Jan 31 at 1:54 AM.

wtf?

 

[dave_d]

Well, a YouTuber making that wait a content for people to watch and making money off the situation would be smart, actually. It's not like they're working a 9-to-5 job or have anywhere to be. They could edit videos while they wait.

True, or if you want to be a scalper do the old ticket scalper trick and show up just before the doors open and just wait for the few people with 5090s to come out the door and offer to buy it off of them for a couple hundred more than they paid.

 

[Celcius]

It's insane these days that high end tech is so hard to get your hands on. I was really fortunate to get a 9800X3D when it launched early November but they're STILL constantly sold out. And high end videocards from Nvidia are even harder to get and have been since 2020.

Do companies not have the ability to make more? Is demand for hardware just unprecedented? What would it take for hardware demand across the board to actually slow down for once?

 

[ReBurn]

The are actually getting crafty with their tactics. Here's a listing on ebay for a preorder that possibly means that the person getting screwed will receive the card once the scalper gets their hands on it first.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/326421610339?_skw=rtx+5090&itmmeta=01JJXHRGCMP4MQCQ3W2TYGNX4G&hash=item4c003e7f63:g:XGUAAOSwNn9nmUf5&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAA0HoV3kP08IDx+KZ9MfhVJKkCSx/HIQJhaqQwiMDVL3HuYNxV6pqtH7JaHRvfPYIUrsioUMv2bxqropesCOccKwCSsNklvEidlxAF+a3df7QR9SmsJOhO0lxQGm3SFDW1VezqlVqJTLRSw8nB7SVYeTEFXhsAAMwd+xfRdo4Ek7BTvP85NqNNau+V0Qpfms8e4GUGEF1Exn+pYHlEFoccG8Rsvxuj0aitMvkGHHIriL70N6Img9xWUubwJpt5Iq7Aeaxsjuu4ygo2spk/25+/qE4=|tkp:Bk9SR7aG4rGXZQ

Btw the listing is set at 6,500$ USD for the starting bid.

There are also activist knuckleheads on eBay posting fake 5080 and 5090 listings to try to bait the scalpers and bots into wasting money on a picture of a card to"save" legitimate buyers. They seem to think bots can't "read" posts specifically saying they're baiting bots. I wonder what dank pot-soaked corner of reddit or 4chan thought up that brilliant idea.

NVIDIA - GeForce RTX 5090 - (Read Description) | eBay

Tackle the most advanced models and most challenging creative workloads with unprecedented AI horsepower. You will receive a picture of the RTX 5090. You will not receive the product. You will receive an 8X10" peice of paper with an image of the graphics card.

www.ebay.com

If a bot can navigate to an auction and buy something a bot can search text for the words scammer, scalper and bot.

 

[No BBC=Anger]

It's insane these days that high end tech is so hard to get your hands on. I was really fortunate to get a 9800X3D when it launched early November but they're STILL constantly sold out. And high end videocards from Nvidia are even harder to get and have been since 2020.

Do companies not have the ability to make more? Is demand for hardware just unprecedented? What would it take for hardware demand across the board to actually slow down for once?

The rising mainstream trend of PC gaming driven by global markets and Web 2.0 (YouTube, etc) over the last 10, 20 years.

 

[dave_d]

Which nvidia has little incentive to do.

The lack of supply is due to AI prioritization. Nvidia: sell gamers a $2000 GPU? Or use the chips to make $20000 AI accelerators?

Pretty much Econ101 again isn't it? (I know I'm a broken record but really in college everybody should just break down and take it. If you twisted my arm and forced me to pick a required course for college students econ 101 would be it.)

 

[Bieren]

Feels like everyone got screwed more than just scalpers. But, of course this was a paper launch. Nividia needed a stock bump. And, what major tech release in the past 6-7 years hasn't been nothing but a paper launch. Nothing raises prices and demand like artificial scarcity...just ask the diamond industry.

 

[808mate]

I hope the campout was worth it.

 

[Gamer79]

Scalpers getting screwed is always good news.

Love it

 

[JohnnyFootball]

It's insane these days that high end tech is so hard to get your hands on. I was really fortunate to get a 9800X3D when it launched early November but they're STILL constantly sold out. And high end videocards from Nvidia are even harder to get and have been since 2020.

Do companies not have the ability to make more? Is demand for hardware just unprecedented? What would it take for hardware demand across the board to actually slow down for once?

Many commentators have answered this but I guess I have to do it again…

The reason for the supply issues is because Blackwell chips are being prioritized for AI cards that can be sold for $20000 instead of $2000. That's pretty much it.

The 5000 series exists solely to keep gamers around enough so that once the AI bubble bursts, they can fall back on them.

The quicker the AI bubble bursts, the better for gamers.

If DeepSeek accelerates this, then all the better, but I'm not going to pretend I understand the AI bubble. If someone who does know, wants to chime in, I'd be grateful.

 

[MiguelItUp]

More scalpers getting screwed in 2025, LFG!

 

[PSYGN]

Chumps

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Well, a YouTuber making that wait a content for people to watch and making money off the situation would be smart, actually. It's not like they're working a 9-to-5 job or have anywhere to be. They could edit videos while they wait.

Yeah like this guy.


He was telling sob stories about he couldn't get a 5090. What's worse is commenters were all feeling sorry for him treating him like he was dying of cancer…just pathetic.

For the record i actually like his channel, just that was very annoying.

 

[StereoVsn]

Many commentators have answered this but I guess I have to do it again…

The reason for the supply issues is because Blackwell chips are being prioritized for AI cards that can be sold for $20000 instead of $2000. That's pretty much it.

The 5000 series exists solely to keep gamers around enough so that once the AI bubble bursts, they can fall back on them.

The quicker the AI bubble bursts, the better for gamers.

If DeepSeek accelerates this, then all the better, but I'm not going to pretend I understand the AI bubble. If someone who does know, wants to chime in, I'd be grateful.

If anything the new AI training and inference methods will make it worse.

On one hand it will be cheaper to both run training jobs and inference with fewer cards. On the other hand this will open it up to more smaller companies so will induce demand.

Kind of like lowering cost of transistors kicked off demand for them or widening a highway gets more people to drive.

So gamers are going to be f'd for awhile till more competition comes in from large corpos (Google, MS, Meta are working on their own hardware), AMD, Intel, startups and bunch of Chinese companies.

The latter could take some demand due to potentially tightening of sanctions so domestic vendors in China will benefit.

Wild card in all of this is that Trump just said this week he is going to impose tariffs on Taiwan and potentially other countries for chip production. Plus potential tariffs on China.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Pretty much Econ101 again isn't it? (I know I'm a broken record but really in college everybody should just break down and take it. If you twisted my arm and forced me to pick a required course for college students econ 101 would be it.)

Nvidia/Jensen knows that they can't completely abandon gamers, which is why the 5000 series even exists.

They will need gamers once the AI bubble collapses.

As for when that happens.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

If anything the new AI training and inference methods will make it worse.

On one hand it will be cheaper to both run training jobs and inference with fewer cards. On the other hand this will open it up to more smaller companies so will induce demand.

Kind of like lowering cost of transistors kicked off demand for them or widening a highway gets more people to drive.

So gamers are going to be f'd for awhile till more competition comes in from large corpos (Google, MS, Meta are working on their own hardware), AMD, Intel, startups and bunch of Chinese companies.

The latter could take some demand due to potentially tightening of sanctions so domestic vendors in China will benefit.

Wild card in all of this is that Trump just said this week he is going to impose tariffs on Taiwan and potentially other countries for chip production. Plus potential tariffs on China.

I'm going to take your word for it.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

Hate scalpers.... but sadly they're not going anywhere cunts.

if only people didn't buy from them then they might get the hint to fuck off and stop being cunts.

 

[Gamer79]

if only people didn't buy from them then they might get the hint to fuck off and stop being cunts.

I 100% agree. I can afford it but I refuse to pay for it on principle alone. These scalpers inflate shortages and the prices go through the roof in their favors. Many are using Online bots to swoop up supply the minute they come in stock. I think the whole practice is snakey as hell.

 

[Idleyes]

I rather be that person then a being forced to use an old ass 4090

I gotta admit, your post is hella funny. But my ancient-ass 4090 is holding its value just fine, thanks to that dumpster fire of a 5080. I'm chilling until I can actually snag a 5090.