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LTTP: He's only 907 years old! Let's share a Doctor Who Marathon
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KibblesBits
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Mr. Sam said:
I always liked Susan. She totally had that alien vibe. And she also had that abused child thing going on too. Wait, what?
:lol
GameplayWhore
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"Yes, of course, the decimal system hasn't started yet!" 
It's understandable why she'd be confused. Decimalization started less than a decade after she attended that class, and what's five or ten years when you're trying to remember a score of centuries of history?
The gal playing Susan has some fantastic face acting here. The way her eyes dart and roll about when she accidentally reveals her intelligence or knowledge of future events is great to watch.
Edit: Oh, I didn't realize that she invented the term "TARDIS". I'm guessing that this gets retconned in the later seasons? I do like that he's cut off from home. I'm going to enjoy finding out how that part's resolved (expectation: later seasons just ignore that dialog and he doesn't have issues being cut off from home until series 27). I've only seen sporadic episodes of the older show, so checking it all out in order is going to be pretty fun and possibly illuminating.
It's understandable why she'd be confused. Decimalization started less than a decade after she attended that class, and what's five or ten years when you're trying to remember a score of centuries of history?
The gal playing Susan has some fantastic face acting here. The way her eyes dart and roll about when she accidentally reveals her intelligence or knowledge of future events is great to watch.
Edit: Oh, I didn't realize that she invented the term "TARDIS". I'm guessing that this gets retconned in the later seasons? I do like that he's cut off from home. I'm going to enjoy finding out how that part's resolved (expectation: later seasons just ignore that dialog and he doesn't have issues being cut off from home until series 27). I've only seen sporadic episodes of the older show, so checking it all out in order is going to be pretty fun and possibly illuminating.
KibblesBits
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GameplayWhore said:"Yes, of course, the decimal system hasn't started yet!"
It's understandable why she'd be confused. Decimalization started less than a decade after she attended that class, and what's five or ten years when you're trying to remember a score of centuries of history?
The gal playing Susan has some fantastic face acting here. The way her eyes dart and roll about when she accidentally reveals her intelligence or knowledge of future events is great to watch.
Edit: Oh, I didn't realize that she invented the term "TARDIS". I'm guessing that this gets retconned in the later seasons? I do like that he's cut off from home. I'm going to enjoy finding out how that part's resolved (expectation: later seasons just ignore that dialog and he doesn't have issues being cut off from home until series 27). I've only seen sporadic episodes of the older show, so checking it all out in order is going to be pretty fun and possibly illuminating.
Yeah the naming was explained away as her not really coming up with the name of the TARDIS units later on.
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I've seen all of new who, but only a very very few btis of old who. Starting Unearthly Child now.
EDIT: Is that why Doctor always uses the name John Smith @_@ ?
British Teeth :lol :lol :lol :lol
Doctor's a dick, this is awesome :lol
EDIT: Is that why Doctor always uses the name John Smith @_@ ?
British Teeth :lol :lol :lol :lol
Doctor's a dick, this is awesome :lol
DrForester
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This should be on page 1
and this.
and this.
GameplayWhore
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lol, "this yearometer is not calculating properly"
Heh, the Doc must've blackjacked them on the back of the head during the transit. Is there any other time in the show where travel through time makes people fall asleep? Reminds me a bit of the Stargate film and TV pilot, where going through leaves you so cold you're covered in frost, but in the regular series they quietly did away with it.
I watched the first episode with some parts of the unaired pilot. Some of the differences are interesting. It seems mostly that the pilot was slightly more violent. I liked its pacing a bit better, at least towards the end.
Edit: The dialogue in this serial (I just got up to "Firemaker") is incredible at times. "in our tribe, the fire maker is the least important man ... he is the least important because we can all make fire"
Heh, the Doc must've blackjacked them on the back of the head during the transit. Is there any other time in the show where travel through time makes people fall asleep? Reminds me a bit of the Stargate film and TV pilot, where going through leaves you so cold you're covered in frost, but in the regular series they quietly did away with it.
I watched the first episode with some parts of the unaired pilot. Some of the differences are interesting. It seems mostly that the pilot was slightly more violent. I liked its pacing a bit better, at least towards the end.
Edit: The dialogue in this serial (I just got up to "Firemaker") is incredible at times. "in our tribe, the fire maker is the least important man ... he is the least important because we can all make fire"
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Very fun first episode, I can see why it hooked people from the start.
KibblesBits
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DrForester said:This should be on page 1
and this.
She said she wasn't gonna do any more!
What a pleasant surprise!
KibblesBits
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Lard said:
He had all the reason to be cranky and cantankerous considering the events.
DrForester
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KibblesBits said:
I think it was done shortly after "Doctor's Girls". "Doctor's Boys" has been around for a long time.
DrForester
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I'd have to say the most amazing thing about watching that first episode for the first time, is that I can already see some traits that made it into the 9-11 Doctors.
Serial 2: THE DALEKS
Consists of 7 episodes:
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Consists of 7 episodes:
- "The Dead Planet"
- "The Survivors"
- "The Escape"
- "The Ambush"
- "The Expedition"
- "The Ordeal"
- "The Rescue"
Plot Summary
The crew of the TARDIS find themselves stranded on a barren, radiation scarred world dominated by petrified forests and poisoned wastelands. Discovering a vast city, The Doctor tricks his companions into exploring but are soon captured by the inhabitants, the Daleks, organic creatures cased in protective metal shells. The planet is Skaro, devestated by a nuclear war 500 years ago fought between the Dals - now mutated into the megalomaniacal Daleks - and the still humanoid and now pacifist Thals. A group of starving Thals arrive at the Dalek city hoping that their old enemies will take pity on them and help to save their dying race but the Daleks ambush them and exterimate their leader Temmosus. The Doctor and his companions escape with the fleeing Thals but are forced to return to the Dalek city to retrieve a missing component from the TARDIS. Persuading the Thals to give up their peace loving ways, the quartet lead an assault on the Dalek city hoping not only to retrieve their missing component and make good their escape from Skaro, but also to prevent the Daleks from detonating a massive neutron bomb that will obliterate the Thals once and for all...
Factoids:
- Originally aired from the 21st of December 1963 through to the 1st of February 1964
- First appearance of the Daleks
- The designer originally assigned to this serial was Ridley Scott
- The second episode, "The Survivors", was taped on 22 November 1963. Minutes before taping started, the cast and crew learned of the assassination of John F. Kennedy but it was decided to continue with the shooting. The next day, the first episode of Doctor Who was broadcast.
- The Daleks was one of the Doctor Who serials slated for destruction by the BBC in the 1970s. However, in 1978, Ian Levine came across them at BBC Enterprises just hours before all remaining copies of the story were to be destroyed and managed to save them.
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KibblesBits
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Syth_Blade22 said:
This was my favorite serial with the first Doctor.
RobotNinjaHornets
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Oh man, I remember this having the greatest Dalek fight scene ever :lol
I'm wondering if I can be bothered rewatching An Unearthly Child, 'cause I remember the caveman parts being so dull. Hmm.
I'm wondering if I can be bothered rewatching An Unearthly Child, 'cause I remember the caveman parts being so dull. Hmm.
GameplayWhore
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Jumping the gun on Daleks, because I'm often not at home during the weekends. Speaking of them, I wish the noncanonical movies (the ones that starred Tarkin, not the one with Eight) were included, if only to see people's reactions to Wilf's young doppelganger.
Edit: Yay, Terry Nation! I was a huge Blake's 7 fan back in the day.
Edit: Wow, women of Gallifrey and of 1960s Earth sure love to scream. A lot.
Edit: Yay, Terry Nation! I was a huge Blake's 7 fan back in the day.
Edit: Wow, women of Gallifrey and of 1960s Earth sure love to scream. A lot.
DrForester
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Kind of dragged but that was a pretty neat story to introduce the Daleks (thought they were apparently supposed to be one time thing). Defiantly enjoying the less action/more sci fi aspect of the old who.
Hartnell's still a dick. :lol
Hartnell's still a dick. :lol
Dragona Akehi
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Susan and Barbara (especially) become much less screamy after this serial. I remember reading an interview with Carol Ann and Jaqueline stating they had enough of the screamy crap and the writers accomodated rather quickly.
Anyway as I posted in the other Who thread, I just finished Series 1 with a friend whom I had gotten addicted to New Who. After the first two serials, the pacing complaints were over with. As an anthropologist, she did want to shoot the writers for the treatment of "early man" in the Unearthly Child though. I had to keep reminding her it was a "product of its time" and in 1963 that's what academics actually thought about "primitive man".
Anyway we pressed on and watched the Planet of Giants, and I have to say, I am pretty amazed at how well the idea worked, considering the state of special effects of the era. I've seen it many times before, but I kept thinking it was my memories not working properly, remembering them much better than they were. Black and White definitely helps cover up any faults.
I'll be sad to see Susan go after the next serial.
PS: Hartnell is the best Doctor ever.
Anyway as I posted in the other Who thread, I just finished Series 1 with a friend whom I had gotten addicted to New Who. After the first two serials, the pacing complaints were over with. As an anthropologist, she did want to shoot the writers for the treatment of "early man" in the Unearthly Child though. I had to keep reminding her it was a "product of its time" and in 1963 that's what academics actually thought about "primitive man".
Anyway we pressed on and watched the Planet of Giants, and I have to say, I am pretty amazed at how well the idea worked, considering the state of special effects of the era. I've seen it many times before, but I kept thinking it was my memories not working properly, remembering them much better than they were. Black and White definitely helps cover up any faults.
I'll be sad to see Susan go after the next serial.
PS: Hartnell is the best Doctor ever.
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Damn how did I miss this thread?
I'm in any way. I started yesterday, unknowingly.
I'm in any way. I started yesterday, unknowingly.
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^^
What am I supposed to be seeing?
What am I supposed to be seeing?
GameplayWhore
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At some point in my life, I want to use the "Oh crap, we're out of mercury!" trick on someone.
Nice, Ian threatening to start up the slave trade on Skaro. I think I like this guy.
...wait, wait, the Daleks try most of the episode trying to get medication to treat against radiation, but then they discover that they thrive on radiation and just didn't know it all this time? That seems pretty weak, Terry.
I do like how they (in the previous serial) meet humans who only understand fighting and selfishness and then right afterward they meet humanoids who abhor fighting and act selflessly. An exploration of opposite extremes of humanity. Naturally, the first group learned how to work together, and the second group learned how to fight.
"There's no indignity in being afraid to die, but there is a terrible shame in being afraid to live." I like that, as well as the sort of "eerie wind" sound effect that they have going in the background during the scene and in other parts of the episode.
What I'm liking here is that even though the Doctor is unquestionably smarter than the others, the solutions to these crises need more of a group effort to succeed. He doesn't have all the answers. He isn't an all-clever god, just a really smart stubborn guy who happens to be often right but isn't infallible. And so far nobody has fixed unsolveable problems by thinking really hard about someone, which has been a bit of a cheap way to end big story arcs lately (for instance, the ending of this series and the ending of two series ago).
Two more episodes left in this serial....
Nice, Ian threatening to start up the slave trade on Skaro. I think I like this guy.
...wait, wait, the Daleks try most of the episode trying to get medication to treat against radiation, but then they discover that they thrive on radiation and just didn't know it all this time? That seems pretty weak, Terry.
I do like how they (in the previous serial) meet humans who only understand fighting and selfishness and then right afterward they meet humanoids who abhor fighting and act selflessly. An exploration of opposite extremes of humanity. Naturally, the first group learned how to work together, and the second group learned how to fight.
"There's no indignity in being afraid to die, but there is a terrible shame in being afraid to live." I like that, as well as the sort of "eerie wind" sound effect that they have going in the background during the scene and in other parts of the episode.
What I'm liking here is that even though the Doctor is unquestionably smarter than the others, the solutions to these crises need more of a group effort to succeed. He doesn't have all the answers. He isn't an all-clever god, just a really smart stubborn guy who happens to be often right but isn't infallible. And so far nobody has fixed unsolveable problems by thinking really hard about someone, which has been a bit of a cheap way to end big story arcs lately (for instance, the ending of this series and the ending of two series ago).
Two more episodes left in this serial....
JoshuaJSlone
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It's been a while since I watched the episode so I don't know if we're even talking about the same thing, but I did remember being taken with a sound effect from this episode and putting it in my notes. *checks*GameplayWhore said:
JoshuaJSlone 2007 said:
DrForester said:
the doors on the tardis! does not compute.
Edit: Listening to BBC3 last night for a bit during the proms. REALLY interesting to hear about the turn around for making the music (i was 90% asleep) but they were saying something like they'd just rock up on the day of filming and play in the background lol
Edit2: Oh God Dragona, your friend was right.. I'm struggling to finish off The Dalek serial ;_; Can't wait for some better pacing lol
Serial 3: The Dalek Invasion of Earth
Consists of 6 episodes:
Plot Summary
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Consists of 6 episodes:
- "World's End"
- "The Daleks"
- "Day of Reckoning"
- "The End of Tomorrow"
- "The Waking Ally"
- "Flashpoint"
Plot Summary
The Doctor and his travelling companions arrive in London in the 22nd century to find that the Earth has been overrun by the Daleks. With their army of Robeomen, humans turned into zombie-like slaves, they are planning to remove the Earth's core and fit a powerful drive system that will enable them to steer the planet like a spaceship. The Doctor teams up with a desperate band of freedom fighters to try to prevent the Daleks from succeeding.
Factoids:
- Originally aired from 21 November 1964 to 26 December 1964
- The serial was the basis for the Peter Cushing Doctor Who movie, Daleks - Invasion Earth 2150 AD.
- William Hartnell is entirely absent from episode four, bar a single shot in the reprise from episode three. The Doctor appears briefly at the beginning of the episode with Hartnell's stand-in, Edmund Warwick, shot from behind, groaning and falling over. Hartnell was injured while filming the battle at the Dalek saucer in episode three, and most of his lines went to David Campbell.
- Nicholas Smith, who would later become famous as Mr. Rumbold in Are You Being Served?, appears in his first speaking role in television.
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GameplayWhore
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Syth_Blade22 said:
The TARDIS looks a little messed up at the beginning, dirtier and with the windows pushed in. Did it take some sort of damage in the prior serial?
Yep, Susan screams early in the episode, even before any real danger presents itself.
"What you need is a jolly good smackbottom!"
The plot here feels a lot more plodding than the previous two serials, with lots of filler and chase scenes that seem endless and, frankly, a bit boring. Some of the non action scenes, such as the cultural exploration the story occasionally takes to, are pretty interesting, though. I liked when Barbara met the old lady who made clothes for the slave workers.
I stopped at the aforementioned meeting, and I'll pick it up later tonight. I suspect foul play from the old lady for some reason, but maybe I'm just a suspicious sort.
JoshuaJSlone
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The method of the
at the end of this serial kinda weirds me out.
EDIT: Spoilered since the plot summary is.
cast change
I think it speaks to British-Gallifreyan conceptions of maturity and ages of consent when they can get away with the Doctor dumping off his ~16-year-old granddaughter in a devastated world to get married to someone she's just met.
EDIT: Spoilered since the plot summary is.
JoshuaJSlone said:
no need to spoiler! I just spoiler it in the plot because I post before midnight for all the poms and yanks and figure that some of them might be watching them then!
Edit: after checking the rules on GAF I thought I'd ask, the words pom and yank aren't considered racist are they ? like the ones listed in the FAQ on words banned? Just asking because I could see how they MIGHT be grouped in there, but then here they're words used widely, including by the mainstream media.
Mr. Sam said:
pom = brit!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pom_(Australian_slang)
cultural sharing!
actually thats quite interesting " it was ruled no longer offensive in 2006 by the Australian Advertising Standards Board and in 2010 by the New Zealand Broadcasting Standards Authority."
GameplayWhore
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The off-the-cuff "revolution plans" that Barbara comes up with to bluff the Daleks were great! Boston Tea Party. General Lee. Hannibal's forces will of course come in from the Southern Alps. WE ARE THE MASTERS OF INDIA.
The Daleks' plan is to move the Earth. Hah, they stole this idea during the Tennant era!
The last order to the Robo-men was a good one, but the delivery was XD
The music during the escape out of the mines was really awkward. It's slow and added a feel of American Old West that I thought kind of went counter to the pace of the scene.
...so I take it that the Doctor never came back and visited Susan? If not, maybe he will in a few years using some of that "Tron: Legacy" effects technology (or, whoa, would Susan regenerate if she died?). Nice ending, but I wish that this marathon had more of her than just sixteen episodes of screaming and one of kissyface. :/
The Daleks' plan is to move the Earth. Hah, they stole this idea during the Tennant era!
The last order to the Robo-men was a good one, but the delivery was XD
The music during the escape out of the mines was really awkward. It's slow and added a feel of American Old West that I thought kind of went counter to the pace of the scene.
...so I take it that the Doctor never came back and visited Susan? If not, maybe he will in a few years using some of that "Tron: Legacy" effects technology (or, whoa, would Susan regenerate if she died?). Nice ending, but I wish that this marathon had more of her than just sixteen episodes of screaming and one of kissyface. :/
cindersphere
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Always enjoyed the Dalek Invasion of Earth. Best part of the episode though is Barbara's the reaction to the body dumping sign
Look left, right left,
"You know were not in our time in London Susan."
Look left, right left,
"You know were not in our time in London Susan."
DrForester
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GameplayWhore said:
There were a lot of specualtion that the mystery woman from Tennants final episode was Susan, but the writer said it was intended to be his mother. Susan would have been a much better route to go with that one.
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Syth_Blade22 said:
I'm watching on youtube. At least, the older episodes are all readily available streaming from various sites. I have others available on disc and so forth, and if I have no other choice, there's always noose dot myisp dot net.
And here's my contribution for now:
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"Doctor, we've got our clothes on!" "Well, I should hope so, dear boy, I should hope so.." XD
Ah, the old imgonnasneezeohgoodnowimnotbutwaitohnoachooooo! routine. At least they mixed it up a bit by not having it give them away, and it seems as if it revealed a crucial plot point
(about ears)/spoiler.
This Doctor flubs a lot of lines. He stumbled badly over the term "flourescent" midway through the first episode, and he's stuttered here and there. I still like him. He's otherwise really good, and I'd almost like to think that it's just a personality trait of the character and not the actor.
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I'm especially happy that this and the next serial are only four episodes long, because I'm going on a shortish road-trip/boozefest/pantslessromancin' this weekend which would have made eight-episode serials really hard to finish on time.
This Doctor flubs a lot of lines. He stumbled badly over the term "flourescent" midway through the first episode, and he's stuttered here and there. I still like him. He's otherwise really good, and I'd almost like to think that it's just a personality trait of the character and not the actor.
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I'm especially happy that this and the next serial are only four episodes long, because I'm going on a shortish road-trip/boozefest/pantslessromancin' this weekend which would have made eight-episode serials really hard to finish on time.
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Syth_Blade22 said:
That's why I put red cellophane over my monitor when watching. Instant Virtual Boy, minus the 3D, of course.
But seriously, it's sad more
than one or two
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This serial presents an interesting mystery. A little creepy when the Doctor and his companions
see themselves as exhibits
"I am not irritable! I...oh, I'm sorry, of course I'm irritable."
"I FOOLED THEM ALL. I AM THE MASTER". lol, but on a side note, the Doctor referring to himself as "The Master" makes me giggle more than it should
This episode has amazing avatar potential -- Doctor peeking out from inside a Dalek, Ian trying to eat a sweater -- if only I had a decent copy and not a youtube stream!
BruceLeeRoy
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I am looking for a new show. I am not a huge sci-fi fan but it looked interesting do you guys think I will like it.
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