Lucasfilm finally announces Star Wars for Blu-ray

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It's a good sign... because the box art for the DVDs were epically bad.

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Notice the douchebag look on the Skywalkers' faces.
 
bill0527 said:
Watched every single episode when they were new in theaters and will greatly enjoy watching every episode at home, with the exceptions of episodes I and II.

I somewhat enjoyed episode III, but only somewhat. At least in episode III, all the action we wanted to see happened. Everything else in Episodes I and II was nothing but fluff and not important to the fall of Anakin Skywalker.
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I think most long-time fans agree. of the 3 prequel films, III was the most salvageable. Though I still probably wouldn't seek to watch it, if only so that I'm not reminded of the first 2 prequel films.
 
bill0527 said:
Watched every single episode when they were new in theaters and will greatly enjoy watching every episode at home, with the exceptions of episodes I and II.

I somewhat enjoyed episode III, but only somewhat. At least in episode III, all the action we wanted to see happened. Everything else in Episodes I and II was nothing but fluff and not important to the fall of Anakin Skywalker.
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Too bad the fall of Anakin Skywalker consisted of "Oh look, Mace Windu is about to execute Chancellor Palpatine. I wonder what I should do, the whole movie so far I've been not evil. Oh fuck it, I'm bored now, I'll suddenly betray Windu. Look, now Palpatine's zapping Windu with some lightning, that's kinda cool, now Windu fell out a window! I guess I'm evil now! Time to kill some younglings!"

Like everything else in the prequel trilogy, TERRIBLE character development to that point, he was good all the way through, suddenly he's evil, and the movie just continues on like he was evil all along. Fuck George Lucas and fuck his prequel trilogy.
 
I really don't understand why they just didn't get the artist of that Complete Collection cover to do OT and PT covers. Shit would be amazing imo. Might dip in on a bargain sale.
 
Willy105 said:
The box art for the Complete Saga is phenomenal.
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Yup. I got chills. I'm an uber-nerd and all, but after all the abuse and disappointment and broken memories, I still can't quit you Star Wars.
 
Saga cover reminds me of a jehovah's witness flyer. Plus, was young Anakin ever where he's pictured?

And why is Yoda so important for the prequels? I guess it answers RLM's question: who was the protagonist? Yoda!
 
Unknown Soldier said:
Too bad the fall of Anakin Skywalker consisted of "Oh look, Mace Windu is about to execute Chancellor Palpatine. I wonder what I should do, the whole movie so far I've been not evil. Oh fuck it, I'm bored now, I'll suddenly betray Windu. Look, now Palpatine's zapping Windu with some lightning, that's kinda cool, now Windu fell out a window! I guess I'm evil now! Time to kill some younglings!"

Like everything else in the prequel trilogy, TERRIBLE character development to that point, he was good all the way through, suddenly he's evil, and the movie just continues on like he was evil all along. Fuck George Lucas and fuck his prequel trilogy.
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What? He massacred a tribe of Tusken Raiders in Episode II (even the women and the children), then beheaded a man earlier in Episode III. That's nowhere near "good all the way through."
 
Dreams-Visions said:
You missed the point. It's not about the umbrella concept of "messing with the film" that spawns the complaints: it's about fucking up the films, which are what Lucas' special additions tend to do. Meanwhile, fan edits like the one I listed are basically huge tidying & polishing projects. they're not about adding homegrown footage, or stupid CGI dinosaurs that distract and detract from the original releases. They fix inconsistencies, colors, remove stupid shit (like the Jabba scene in A New Hope), etc. while retaining the good changes (like the updated explosions for Alderan and the Death Star.

Watch it for yourself. You'll go, "oh".
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What? Star Wars Revisted is nice in many ways but he certainly does that type of stuff too.
 
Lucas needs to take a hint from Star Trek.

The Star Trek TOS Remaster is the gold standard in how you update/special edition stuff.

They CGIed the exterior space shots
Touched up interior SFX shots
General video clean up
Re-scored the soundtrack (didn't change it, just restored so they didn't have to use the old mono recordings)
Included un-improved versions of episodes as well as remastered ones on disk.
 
Marty Chinn said:
What? Star Wars Revisted is nice in many ways but he certainly does that type of stuff too.
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an extraordinarily small amount. and I found none that distracted me. but hey...ymmv. I still think that version is the best EIV version after the originals.
 
Sorry if this has been asked ad nauseam, but the OP hasn't been updated and I don't feel like wading through the entire thread for an answer.

I probably already know the answer to this, but are these movies the 1997 Special Editions of the films? The originals aren't going to included, are they? I guess it doesn't really matter to me, since I guess I'm one of the few people who doesn't feel as if Lucas destroyed my childhood by adding a few extra scenes/features to his films (I actually like some of the changes, the Sarlaac Pit being an obvious one. Makes the creature actually seem dangerous and kind of intimidating).
 
Summary Man said:
I probably already know the answer to this, but are these movies the 1997 Special Editions of the films?
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No. They're likely the 2004 Special Editions, unless they make more changes.
 
B.K. said:
No. They're likely the 2004 Special Editions, unless they make more changes.
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Oh wow, I wasn't even aware that there are other editions besides the originals and the 1997 versions. Guess I've been out of the loop for awhile.

Is there a handy website that lists the differences between the 1997 and 2004 versions of the films? I'm kind of interested now. :)
 
Will buy the complete saga probably.

I know the prequels are bad movies but I grew up with them as a kid and I liked them. Revisiting them will probably ruin my memory of them but oh well. And I grew up with the changed OT too so yeah.

I wish there were the original editions available though. I'd like to see them.
 
B.K. said:
No. They're likely the 2004 Special Editions, unless they make more changes.
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They're most likely going to be 2011 Special Editions :P
 
sfedai0 said:
I thought that was almost sacrilegious. Luke probably wouldnt even know who the fuck that douche was.
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But the modern audience wouldn't know who the old man was. He isn't "Anakin" if they've watched Ep II, III.

Personally, I fully understand why they made that change.
 
B.K. said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases#Star_Wars_DVD_Box_Set

By far the worst change in the 2004 Special Editions:

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Why the fuck would Anakin become young, but Yoda and Obi-wan stay old? Why not replace Obi-wan's ghost with Ewan McGregor??

Fuck that noise. I'm finding myself some fan edit goodness. No matter how amazing the Saga box art is, it contains 50% shit... And no, that isn't nostalgia speaking, the prequels are legitimate shit and the OT is legitimate glory.
 
I would hope that youre underestimating the IQ of most people. It just dosent match up with old Yoda and old Obi-wan and young Anankin??
 
sfedai0 said:
I would hope that youre underestimating the IQ of most people. It just dosent match up with old Yoda and old Obi-wan and young Anankin??
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It would be weird to anyone who watched the films in the context of the prequels. The scene shows us Anakin returning to being a Jedi... as an old man we've never seen before? But he never was an old man Jedi. And that's not how we remember him, post-prequels..

However, both the audience and Luke DO remember Yoda and Obi-Wan as older Jedi so it makes sense they remain like that.

Ghosts don't really have age, of course.

If they made the movies in order, they never would have cast an old chubby man as old Jedi Anakin, because we wouldn't recognize that, and it's a little silly since he looks nothing alike. Only in 1983 did it make sense to have an old chubby Anakin as a ghost, because the only time we saw Anakin was as an old man dying without his mask.

To put it another way, it would have raised just as many questions (more questions) to leave it the way it is.
 
Utako said:
Why the fuck would Anakin become young, but Yoda and Obi-wan stay old? Why not replace Obi-wan's ghost with Ewan McGregor??
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Because Force ghosts take the form of a Jedi when they died and Anakin died when he became Darth Vader!
 
B.K. said:
Because Force ghosts take the form of a Jedi when they died and Anakin died when he became Darth Vader!
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"...from a certain point of view!"
 
_Isaac said:
The OT has nice art. The new trilogy has pretty good art too. The complete saga art is gross.
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This. I almost want to buy them separately to get the art.

I still can't bring myself to make a decision on buying any of the releases on Blu Ray though, as I have the DVD of the OT that includes the original OT print.

I may just wait until the reviews come in before I make a final decision.
 
Looking back, I haven't bought the movies all that many times (once the THX VHS boxset, and once the DVD boxset with non-anamorphic original cuts). If these include the originals, I'm in. Otherwise, probably not.
 
Spire said:
Lucas's acting note for Hayden when they filmed this scene was "Look like you want to skullfuck the audience.".
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Yeah, they didn't pick the right footage at all. Apparently it was a costume test that they used without telling the actor. They could have gone about it a bit more professionally, the eyelines don't even match between Anakin and the others. The shot they used when he first appears is alright, but that last one...hopefully they've changed it. It's a terrible way to end the story with something that amateurish.
 
Kurashima said:
Looking back, I haven't bought the movies all that many times (once the TXH VHS boxset, and once the DVD boxset with non-anamorphic original cuts). If these include the originals, I'm in. Otherwise, probably not.
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They won't. For no rational reason whatsoever, they won't.
 
sfedai0 said:
I thought that was almost sacrilegious. Luke probably wouldnt even know who the fuck that douche was.
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Lmao.

BocoDragon said:
But the modern audience wouldn't know who the old man was. He isn't "Anakin" if they've watched Ep II, III.
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Why? Does the 'modern audience' consist of dumb fucktards? You see old Anakin like five minutes before you see Ghost Anakin.
Maybe they should CGI Hayden Christesen with old-man make-up in the last Darth Vader scene too? Before you know it Georce Lucas is CGI-ing an old version of Ewan McGregor over Alec Guiness, because the modern audience doesn't know that old fool in a robe.

God I hope Lucas doesn't read this thread. It might give him ideas :(
 
Flying_Phoenix said:
I don't get it, that change actually makes sense.
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It didn't make any damn sense at all. The entire point of Vader's death scene is that he redeemed himself by killing the Emperor. Luke was right. There was still good in him. Meaning Anakin didn't "die" or cease to exist when he became Vader. His good nature was buried under a lot of pain and guilt and anger and despair. And so we get to see him as he would have been if he had never turned. It's an important emotional moment for the audience and for Luke. How can anyone not understand that?

Lucas is a fucking idiot.

storl026 said:
They won't. For no rational reason whatsoever, they won't.
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I can think of one: he can re-release the movies again later when he wants more cash.
 
>_< replacing Anakin in the ending was just the icing on the cake of crap he did to try and ruin the movies as much as he could....
 
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